Nvidia RTX Discussion

EoinHef

Rob2D wrote: »

What world are you living in? I didn't realise there were warehouses full of gaming cards all over Europe? A picture of one idiot's setup you found online is not indicitive of the true situation.
I ran the math on that picture and I can tell you that best case scenario this year he breaks even. Show any proper miner that setup and you would be laughed out of it

The real world,obviously not the one your living in:P

https://videocardz.com/newz/this-geforce-rtx-3080-ethereum-mining-rig-now-makes-20k-per-month

So when crypto took off the last time before this why was GPU supply constrained then aswell? Sure isn't it just timmy down the road who wants two 3060s for a bit of mining:P

I do agree that there are also other factors making the supply problems more acute but to say mining is not a major contributor is just living in dreamland

Aodhan5000

Rob2D wrote: »

What world are you living in? I didn't realise there were warehouses full of gaming cards all over Europe? A picture of one idiot's setup you found online is not indicitive of the true situation.
I ran the math on that picture and I can tell you that best case scenario this year he breaks even. Show any proper miner that setup and you would be laughed out of it.



Oh this is just delicious. You have no clue do you? Do you even know that most projects are proof of stake now? That crypto can be run entirely on renewable. That Bitcoin, if successful could be the single biggest motivating factor in human history for a move to clean energy?

Run along there and add up the cost of our current banking system for me. Go look at the cost of pulling gold out of the ground.

Better yet, here's a good one for all of you. Go and figure out how much cost and environmental impact gaming has every year. Go take a look in the mirror, then come back and talk to me.

Dedicating some of this energy and technology to trying to create a revoultionary system that could finally stand up to the cancer that is central banking is a fine endevour when compared to us needing to play several hours of games a day.

Some people around here need to seriously get down off their high horse and grow up. Learn how the world works.

Just so you know, your math is wrong. A miner can buy those cards, mine them, and then (this is the key bit) sell them again for a ridiculous price. That's why you're math is wrong. A scalper could even just mine them in the 7 days their eBay ad is up for and then package it again. These cards lose no value second hand because they can't be got new and everyone wants them

Squidgy Black

Doth protests a wee bit too much me thinks.

Lumen

Comparing gaming to mining is like comparing cooking and eating a delicious meal to heating up some delicious ingredients and then throwing them in the bin.

Giblet

You don't think £649 3080's were bought up by miners when they have close to 90-100MH mining stats? What?!

dreamers75

messing with DSR and a 3080 some games like 8k some games DO NOT

Unreal engine games seems to run fine on it, Elite Dangerous does not run well in 8k.

Spear

Resizable BAR BIOS have been released for anyone with an Asus X299 based board. I doubt there's many of you around, but it's good news for me at least.

All I lack now is a VBIOS, but Zotac have a poor record of providing these.

tazzzZ

Just thought I'd come and post for anyone with a 3080/3090 FE and are concerned about the VRAM junction temps. I just did the thermal pad replacement this morning and initial results are showing me 20+ degree improvement. Went from 105+ in RDR2 to 80 on the nose. I will say in my initial testing post mod I have had the coil whine get very bad. This is literally on my initial testing. I am hoping this just needs a burn in period and will get better. On CSGO the card screams! It will make noise in RDR2 as well. I play with headphones so its not as bad for me but something to consider for anyone thinking about the mod. I will say the knowledge that the card is at far safer junction temps is worth it for me.

H3llR4iser

EoinHef wrote: »

The real world,obviously not the one your living in:P

https://videocardz.com/newz/this-geforce-rtx-3080-ethereum-mining-rig-now-makes-20k-per-month

So when crypto took off the last time before this why was GPU supply constrained then aswell? Sure isn't it just timmy down the road who wants two 3060s for a bit of mining:P

I do agree that there are also other factors making the supply problems more acute but to say mining is not a major contributor is just living in dreamland

I've posted this before, but during the previous "Crypto-Boom", I took a trip to the USA and went to visit a Microcenter - the one in Brooklyn, specifically.

The GPU aisle looked like there had been a revolt in the store: not a single card on the shelves and scattered all over, remnants of cardboard from torn boxes. I don't know if people literally assaulted the staff while they were trying to put the boxes on the shelves, but it certainly looked like it :eek:

ShadowHearth

H3llR4iser wrote: »

I've posted this before, but during the previous "Crypto-Boom", I took a trip to the USA and went to visit a Microcenter - the one in Brooklyn, specifically.

The GPU aisle looked like there had been a revolt in the store: not a single card on the shelves and scattered all over, remnants of cardboard from torn boxes. I don't know if people literally assaulted the staff while they were trying to put the boxes on the shelves, but it certainly looked like it :eek:

In Fallout they use caps as currency, looks like in our universe we will use gpus as currency. :pac:

Retr0gamer

viking direct have charged my credit card for the order they cancelled :rolleyes:

Samuel T. Cogley

May have just snagged myself a MSI 3080 there for £763 - from Amazon.co.uk. Here's hoping they dont cancel it.

TheRover

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

May have just snagged myself a MSI 3080 there for £763 - from Amazon.co.uk. Here's hoping they dont cancel it.

Seems half the world snagged that MSI 3080


Still no delivery date so it's likely all/many get cancelled.

spix

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

May have just snagged myself a MSI 3080 there for £763 - from Amazon.co.uk. Here's hoping they dont cancel it.

In stock or temporarily out of stock when you ordered?

Samuel T. Cogley

TheRover wrote: »

Seems half the world snagged that MSI 3080


Still no delivery date so it's likely all/many get cancelled.

Fook

Had a slight delay due to the CC passcode thinggy so probably no joy. Ah well.

Samuel T. Cogley

spix wrote: »

In stock or temporarily out of stock when you ordered?

In stock 13th April when ordered and still showing something similar for a couple of minutes after.

TheRover

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

In stock 13th April when ordered.

Same

Samuel T. Cogley

Well it's better to want... so I'm told.

TheRover

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Fook

Had a slight delay due to the CC passcode thinggy so probably no joy. Ah well.

I don't think the CC verification delays the process. You see, by that point, from amazon's pov, you were fast enough and committed to the purchase, they're just waiting for the bank to give the final OK.


I got a Zotac 3080 last week with same CC verification - and that one has a delivery date.

Willbbz

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

May have just snagged myself a MSI 3080 there for £763 - from Amazon.co.uk. Here's hoping they dont cancel it.

Same got one this morning for £762.94!

For anyone else, what I did is I have the Twitter for Mac client installed with notifications to the @PartAlert and @DropSentry twitter accounts.

On so many occasions I haven't been able to get the card added to my cart but this time I just pressed the Buy Now button as soon as the page opened and managed to get it added. Fingers crossed it's not cancelled also

Samuel T. Cogley

My 'confirmation' email was 09.53 for anyone who is interested.

Luck100

The one time I didn't have discord running...:mad:

Samuel T. Cogley

Luck100 wrote: »

The one time I didn't have discord running...:mad:

By the looks of it you didn't actually miss out unless they've pallets of them which I doubt.

spix

Has anyone actually received one of these 'underpriced' cards from amazon in recent months or is it just a long shot the order gets honored?

TheRover

spix wrote: »

Has anyone actually received one of these 'underpriced' cards from amazon in recent months or is it just a long shot the order gets honored?

I got one and have another one on the way. No bots.

spix

TheRover wrote: »

I got one and have another one on the way. No bots.

How many cancelled orders and how good a deal was the one you got. I don't understand why they'd sell 3080 at 750? When could easily charge 1,000 and would sell just as quick.

TheRover

spix wrote: »

How many cancelled orders and how good a deal was the one you got. I don't understand why they'd sell 3080 at 750? When could easily charge 1,000 and would sell just as quick.

Only cancelled order I had was the Palit 3060 preorder. They cancelled it because "couldnt find stock" and literally 5 minutes later put some on sale on the site.


Amazon are not playing the scalper game, which is nice of them. This will keep a customer base in the future, instead of CCL/Overclockers/etc charging a fortune for cards nowadays which should hurt them in the future - if people remember.

spix

TheRover wrote: »

Only cancelled order I had was the Palit 3060 preorder. They cancelled it because "couldnt find stock" and literally 5 minutes later put some on sale on the site.


Amazon are not playing the scalper game, which is nice of them. This will keep a customer base in the future, instead of CCL/Overclockers/etc charging a fortune for cards nowadays which should hurt them in the future - if people remember.

This looks like a miss price though, especially with a large quantity, at current market they've surely got to be selling these at a loss. They'd keep more customers if stock was accurate, definitely multitudes of cancelled orders for each successful one. I only got 1 order in and was cancelled after a month. Maybe will try again

Samuel T. Cogley

Not worth it to Amazon's reputation to over charge to the degree someone like CCL are doing on something this small volume.

spix

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Not worth it to Amazon's reputation to over charge to the degree someone like CCL are doing on something this small volume.

Theres no way MSI are supplying these cards at that price though. Especially since they announced price increases. Fair play if Amazon are willing to sell at a loss to give people a good deal but with their reputation of selling customer returns as new, I don't believe it.