Nvidia RTX Discussion

JoyPad

My son's MSI 3090 has arrived and I installed it in his current rig (2016).

PSU: Corsair RM750x
CPU: i7 6700K (OC'd by PCSpecialist to 4.4GHz)
Mobo: ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32Gb 3200MHz
Storage: 1x m.2 SATA SSD 480Gb (boot drive), 1x 2.5in SATA SSD 1Tb, 1x HDD 2 Tb

Also inside the case are two PCIe cards (one WiFi and one for the Vive wireless accessory).

The PSU has only two PCIe cables, each with split into two. I've connected the GPU using 3 of these connectors (so, it's over two wires).
Initially, the PC wouldn't POST (motherboard VGA LED was solid red).
I disconnected the HDD, and it did POST, but then overclock failed.
I went into BIOS and restored factory settings, and it powers up.

Drivers installed, Watch Dogs redeemed, and a 12700 score in 3DMark (used to be 8600). We don't have anything with RTX, as far as we know.


P.S. Do not worry, he is getting a (mostly) new PC for this GPU. Parts are ordered, some arrived, some not yet. Still have to buy a CPU, but waiting for the Zen 3 launch. He will keep his RAM and the non-boot drives, and everything else will go on adverts.

mad turnip

JoyPad wrote: »

My son's MSI 3090 has arrived and I installed it in his current rig (2016).

PSU: Corsair RM750x
CPU: i7 6700K (OC'd by PCSpecialist to 4.4GHz)
Mobo: ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32Gb 3200MHz
Storage: 1x m.2 SATA SSD 480Gb (boot drive), 1x 2.5in SATA SSD 1Tb, 1x HDD 2 Tb

Also inside the case are two PCIe cards (one WiFi and one for the Vive wireless accessory).

The PSU has only two PCIe cables, each with split into two. I've connected the GPU using 3 of these connectors (so, it's over two wires).
Initially, the PC wouldn't POST (motherboard VGA LED was solid red).
I disconnected the HDD, and it did POST, but then overclock failed.
I went into BIOS and restored factory settings, and it powers up.

Drivers installed, Watch Dogs redeemed, and a 12700 score in 3DMark (used to be 8600). We don't have anything with RTX, as far as we know.


P.S. Do not worry, he is getting a (mostly) new PC for this GPU. Parts are ordered, some arrived, some not yet. Still have to buy a CPU, but waiting for the Zen 3 launch. He will keep his RAM and the non-boot drives, and everything else will go on adverts.

Whats the power rating on the PSU?

K.O.Kiki

JoyPad wrote: »

My son's MSI 3090 has arrived and I installed it in his current rig (2016).

PSU: Corsair RM750x
CPU: i7 6700K (OC'd by PCSpecialist to 4.4GHz)
Mobo: ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32Gb 3200MHz
Storage: 1x m.2 SATA SSD 480Gb (boot drive), 1x 2.5in SATA SSD 1Tb, 1x HDD 2 Tb

Also inside the case are two PCIe cards (one WiFi and one for the Vive wireless accessory).

The PSU has only two PCIe cables, each with split into two. I've connected the GPU using 3 of these connectors (so, it's over two wires).
Initially, the PC wouldn't POST (motherboard VGA LED was solid red).
I disconnected the HDD, and it did POST, but then overclock failed.
I went into BIOS and restored factory settings, and it powers up.

Drivers installed, Watch Dogs redeemed, and a 12700 score in 3DMark (used to be 8600). We don't have anything with RTX, as far as we know.


P.S. Do not worry, he is getting a (mostly) new PC for this GPU. Parts are ordered, some arrived, some not yet. Still have to buy a CPU, but waiting for the Zen 3 launch. He will keep his RAM and the non-boot drives, and everything else will go on adverts.

Look into undervolting the GPU.

JoyPad

mad turnip wrote: »

Whats the power rating on the PSU?

I really wouldn't know. The PC was supposed to come with a 650W PSU, which was replaced by PCSpecialist. If there was any document, I'm sure they included it in the box they sent with the PC, but I can't look into that right now.

However, as far as I understand it, the rating is the measure of efficiency, e.g. how much power the PSU draws from the wall in order to provide the 750W requested. It should have no impact on how much power the PSU provides to the PC.

rob808

JoyPad wrote: »

My son's MSI 3090 has arrived and I installed it in his current rig (2016).

PSU: Corsair RM750x
CPU: i7 6700K (OC'd by PCSpecialist to 4.4GHz)
Mobo: ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32Gb 3200MHz
Storage: 1x m.2 SATA SSD 480Gb (boot drive), 1x 2.5in SATA SSD 1Tb, 1x HDD 2 Tb

Also inside the case are two PCIe cards (one WiFi and one for the Vive wireless accessory).

The PSU has only two PCIe cables, each with split into two. I've connected the GPU using 3 of these connectors (so, it's over two wires).
Initially, the PC wouldn't POST (motherboard VGA LED was solid red).
I disconnected the HDD, and it did POST, but then overclock failed.
I went into BIOS and restored factory settings, and it powers up.

Drivers installed, Watch Dogs redeemed, and a 12700 score in 3DMark (used to be 8600). We don't have anything with RTX, as far as we know.


P.S. Do not worry, he is getting a (mostly) new PC for this GPU. Parts are ordered, some arrived, some not yet. Still have to buy a CPU, but waiting for the Zen 3 launch. He will keep his RAM and the non-boot drives, and everything else will go on adverts.

RTX 3090 abit overkill could you not get a RTX 3080.Im wondering how much did the RTX 3090 cost you.

JoyPad

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Look into undervolting the GPU.

I've watched some videos, but I think it's not worth the effort.
His new PC should be up and running in a few weeks time, and I have an RM850x for that.

JoyPad

rob808 wrote: »

RTX 3090 abit overkill could you not get a RTX 3080.Im wondering how much did the RTX 3090 cost you.

That's exactly it. The 3080 launch was a mess, and by the time I could place a pre-order (due to site outages), I ended up in a very long queue.
My bet with 3090 was that the queues would not be as long as the ones for 3080, so I was able to get it in 3 weeks time, instead of 3 months.

The MSI 3090 was 1515 GBP (incl. VAT and shipping).

mad turnip

JoyPad wrote: »

I really wouldn't know. The PC was supposed to come with a 650W PSU, which was replaced by PCSpecialist. If there was any document, I'm sure they included it in the box they sent with the PC, but I can't look into that right now.

However, as far as I understand it, the rating is the measure of efficiency, e.g. how much power the PSU draws from the wall in order to provide the 750W requested. It should have no impact on how much power the PSU provides to the PC.

Sorry wasn't really clear I was asking the maximum power output of the PSU. 650W with an overclocked i5 and a 3090 might have been drawing too much power to post.
When the PC is booting the powerdraw may be spiking reaching the limit the PSU can do reliably.

rob808

JoyPad wrote: »

That's exactly it. The 3080 launch was a mess, and by the time I could place a pre-order (due to site outages), I ended up in a very long queue.
My bet with 3090 was that the queues would not be as long as the ones for 3080, so I was able to get it in 3 weeks time, instead of 3 months.

The MSI 3090 was 1515 GBP (incl. VAT and shipping).

Dam I'll say your wallet hurting bad after that but at least the pc future proof for a good few years.

Cordell

mad turnip wrote: »

Sorry wasn't really clear I was asking the maximum power output of the PSU. 650W with an overclocked i5 and a 3090 might have been drawing too much power to post.
When the PC is booting the powerdraw may be spiking reaching the limit the PSU can do reliably.

The CPU boots up with just one core working, it shouldn't push the PSU anywhere near its limits at that point.
Maybe the overclock was too aggressive and maybe the new GPU pushed the motherboard power limits more, and this is why the overclock failed, because of power noise in the motherboard. I think I've seen a review video, maybe from GN, saying they measured more than 75W.

Spear

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Best of luck & stick up a few pics when its up and running.

There will be no pics. I don't want everyone to see how utterly janky my setup is. I didn't remove the previous 1080 blocks from the water loop, just separated the 1080s from the water blocks, leaving the blocks in place hanging loose. Also there's a green shimmer to the tubes, so I'm going to have to rebuild and clean it out once I get a water block for the 3090.

Wonda-Boy

Spear wrote: »

There will be no pics. I don't want everyone to see how utterly janky my setup is. I didn't remove the previous 1080 blocks from the water loop, just separated the 1080s from the water blocks, leaving the blocks in place hanging loose. Also there's a green shimmer to the tubes, so I'm going to have to rebuild and clean it out once I get a water block for the 3090.

Pics or It dont happen :P

Wonda-Boy

Thoughts on this Gigabyte 3080....?

I really like it as its very unique, Love the silver front and back and the white shroud. The RGB is very subtle on it also with just the gigabyte name lighting up.....Would you say the lead time would be less as its white then the other 3080s.

Dont think I can wait till Dec/Jan for the "Rumoured" 20GB cards.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N3080VISION-OC-10GD#kf

Squidgy Black

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Thoughts on this Gigabyte 3080....?

I really like it as its very unique, Love the silver front and back and the white shroud. The RGB is very subtle on it also with just the gigabyte name lighting up.....Would you say the lead time would be less as its white then the other 3080s.

Dont think I can wait till Dec/Jan for the "Rumoured" 20GB cards.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N3080VISION-OC-10GD#kf

Have seen a few builds on Reddit with it, the silver strip is more purple than in the Gigabyte marketing photos from the looks of it. If it was silver it'd be class.

But to be honest at the moment the lead times are pretty much all the same at the moment, and I haven't actually seen many places listing that card. Have a feeling unless Nvidia steps up big time we could be still waiting until Christmas for mass stock.

K.O.Kiki

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Thoughts on this Gigabyte 3080....?

I really like it as its very unique, Love the silver front and back and the white shroud. The RGB is very subtle on it also with just the gigabyte name lighting up.....Would you say the lead time would be less as its white then the other 3080s.

Dont think I can wait till Dec/Jan for the "Rumoured" 20GB cards.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N3080VISION-OC-10GD#kf

It's probably fine.
Looks to be the same as the Gaming OC: https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/gigabyte_rtx_3080_gaming_oc_10g_review/1

Squidgy Black

Better photo of the purple strip

Wonda-Boy

I could live with that....I think its a stunner TBH.

BArra

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Thoughts on this Gigabyte 3080....?

I really like it as its very unique, Love the silver front and back and the white shroud. The RGB is very subtle on it also with just the gigabyte name lighting up.....Would you say the lead time would be less as its white then the other 3080s.

Dont think I can wait till Dec/Jan for the "Rumoured" 20GB cards.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N3080VISION-OC-10GD#kf

with the euro stock situation you might just have to

Spear

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Pics or It dont happen :P

Alright, some bare naked 1080s for you:

https://i.imgur.com/JnQEOmL

EoinHef

Looks a bit like a radeon vii to me,similar shroud with triple fan.

I'll never go white so my opinion is pointless pretty much:P

Squidgy Black

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

I could live with that....I think its a stunner TBH.

Yeah in fairness if you can fit the purple into your build it's a cracker. Think it would stand out a bit too much in mine so wouldn't be up my alley.

Wonda-Boy

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Yeah in fairness if you can fit the purple into your build it's a cracker. Think it would stand out a bit too much in mine so wouldn't be up my alley.

Id say in an all white rig like mine the purple would not be a problem. Be different if there was purple accents all over the card.

Overheal

Not my aesthetic personally but I'd be interested in that fan configuration, there seems to be intuitive sense to mirroring the middle fan.

eigenboggle

After advancing only 4 places in the 3080 EVGA gaming black que on scan, despite ordering within 40 mins of launch, I've caved and ordered a 2070 super last night. I'll try and update in the new year, or sooner if big navi stock is more accessible. Unbelievable how they handled / launched with essentially no stock. Fair play to scan though for being so open about stock and shipments.

EoinHef

Its a bit of a joke isn't it,no stock,inflated prices,scalping.

Just bare naked greed. The GPU market needs more competition. Its not healthy the way it is for anyone other than the companies currently making the GPUs.

Consumers are at their mercy.

Spear

So rambling thoughts after 24 hours with a 3090...

I'm getting about 16k on 3dMark Time Spy, when others tend to get around 19k-20k. I suspect this is due to the lower frequency of CPU, an i9 7900, which has a base of 3.3Ghz. Not actually an issue in the real world though, as it doesn't impact the science work it'll be doing.

Improvements in games are fairly obvious though. AC: oddyssey shows a 50 to 100% improvement. Control went from 35-40 fps, to 70FPS, and that's with the addition of ray-tracing.

The fans are noisy under load. Not anywhere near the vacuum cleaner levels of past cards like the 480, but noticeable enough and annoying. An EK waterblock is already pre-ordered for it.

That said, the temps are very good on it, only hitting about 70C, which is impressive for it's power, both in terms of watts and computational ability.

JoyPad

Spear wrote: »

The fans are noisy under load.

I ran some benchmarks on my son's PC today, while he was in school.
The MSI RTX 3090 Trio Gaming X is very quiet, even under load.

Temps went a bit higher though, 75C. His case fans are not configured properly, I think. Must investigate.

I don't have anything to test Ray Tracing with, I'm afraid. Port Royal must be paid for, right?

Spear

JoyPad wrote: »

I don't have anything to test Ray Tracing with, I'm afraid. Port Royal must be paid for, right?

Yeah, Port Royal is considered a paid DLC add-on.

Cordell

Buy Control, it's a good game first, and so far the best RT and DLSS implementation.

Squidgy Black

Another batch of FEs gone up for sale in the US, still nothing for Europe. Disaster of a launch, what a joke.