Should a united Ireland join with an independent Scotland and create one country?

Jeff Devoy

As above.

Kermit.de.frog

In before the lock.

Ten of Swords

No, Isle of Man would feel left out

Hector Bellend

For what?

xabi

Aye

Hector Bellend

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

In before the lock.

Too late for that

Mike Hoch

How many more questions do you have for us?

dxhound2005

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

In before the lock.

Loch.

Ten of Swords

He hasn't asked about arming AGS with M4's yet, I've a feeling that'll be a thread soon

Jeff Devoy

In all seriousness, I have been creating these threads out of mere curiosity. I'm trying to get opinions for a potential 'New Ireland' is all.

Kermit.de.frog

Jeff Devoy wrote: »

In all seriousness, I have been creating these threads out of mere curiosity. I'm trying to get opinions for a potential 'New Ireland' is all.

Politics forum is this way, you'll like it there

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1728

Mena Mitty

Jeff Devoy wrote: »

In all seriousness, I have been creating these threads out of mere curiosity. I'm trying to get opinions for a potential 'New Ireland' is all.

Doncha mean 'Scoireland'

For Forks Sake

OP who keeps starting multiple threads with "should xxx"? Haven't we had one of those before?

Hector Bellend

Mena Mitty wrote: »

Doncha mean 'Scoireland'

doucheville

Jeff Devoy

It could provide an alternative to the federal system in the other thread. A huge unitary country with its capital in Glasgow. We are so very similar and the Presbyterian unionists in the north couldn't complain:D:D:D.

The Isle of Man might even be thrown into the deal;).

Hector Bellend

Jeff Devoy wrote: »

It could provide an alternative to the federal system in the other thread. A huge unitary country with its capital in Glasgow. We are so very similar and the Presbyterian unionists in the north couldn't complain:D:D:D.

The Isle of Man might even be thrown into the deal;).

Or they can f**k off and run their own country

Hector Bellend

Hector Bellend wrote: »

For what?

for the North Sea oil, its the jewel in the crown of the UK.

In my opinion there was no way that the oil would be given away by the stroke of a pen.





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Mrs OBumble

No. The Scots have self-esteem ('cos they invented like, everything), and ye don't. It would be a disaster.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Maybe we could invite England and Wales into the fold and create some sort of union.

DEFTLEFTHAND

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Maybe we could invite England and Wales into the fold and create some sort of union.

I do realise that there would be a snowflake's chance in an industrial furnace of such a union ever to happen. (Ireland & Scotland)

There is a real chance of a bridge though.

dxhound2005

Deleted User wrote: »

I do realise that there would be a snowflake's chance in an industrial furnace of such a union ever to happen. (Ireland & Scotland)

There is a real chance of a bridge though.

It happened before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A1l_Riata

4068ac1elhodqr

xabi wrote: »

Aye

Ack aye, tabby sure.

dxhound2005

dxhound2005 wrote: »

It happened before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A1l_Riata

thanks, I was aware of this, and it reminds me of a thought I had some years ago.

There is a town in Scotland called Fortingall which is famous for 2 things.

The oldest tree in the world grows there, and it is the legendary birthplace of Puntious Pilate. Pilate's father was a Roman legionnaire who was stationed at Hadrians Wall. And as far as I remember reading, he married a lady from the Glens of Antrim.

After watching Monty Python's The Life of Brian, a thought struck me. The character in the film playing Puntious, could not pronounce his 'r's.

Could this be that he was originally named Proinsias?

FrancieBrady

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

No. The Scots have self-esteem ('cos they invented like, everything), and ye don't. It would be a disaster.

Self esteem? If they had any of that they would be independent.
Sold themselves off to pay a debt. :rolleyes:

nthclare

[Deleted User] wrote: »

thanks, I was aware of this, and it reminds me of a thought I had some years ago.

There is a town in Scotland called Fortingall which is famous for 2 things.

The oldest tree in the world grows there, and it is the legendary birthplace of Puntious Pilate. Pilate's father was a Roman legionnaire who was stationed at Harridans Wall. And as far as I remember reading, he married a lady from the Glens of Antrim.

After watching Monty Python's The Life of Brian, a thought struck me. The character in the film playing Puntious, could not pronounce his 'r's.

Could this be that he was originally named Proinsias?

Was that the guy who would sound like funny saying "watching wabbits wunnin akwoss the wunway"

randy hickey

Deleted User wrote: »

I do realise that there would be a snowflake's chance in an industrial furnace of such a union ever to happen. (Ireland & Scotland)

There is a real chance of a bridge though.

Wait..... we're burning the snowflakes now?
I know they're soft-headed lazy bastards, but isn't this just a tad extreme?

I just had a look at the Monty Python sketch, it was Ceasar that couldn't pronounce his 'r's. There goes that theory!

Unless of course, that the some of the Bible's texts had been written on the first hand account of Caesar who couldn't pronounce Pilates name correctly.

Yes. Preferably with blu tack as opposed to sellotape.

Atoms for Peace

Hector Bellend wrote: »

For what?

Celtic hegemony

Vinculus

I've got a bit of a plan lads.
How about If we get Portugal and Galicia to reunite again and then with ourselves and the Scots, we could form some sort of Atlantic Archipelago.

topper75

Lovely place that Scotland. I love visiting - esp the highlands and islands.

Joining it with another country however in 2018 would make Brexit look like simple sodoku.

Forget that dream and find a new one OP.

jaykay74

xabi wrote: »

Aye

Ayre?

Edgware

Ten of Swords wrote: »

He hasn't asked about arming AGS with M4's yet, I've a feeling that'll be a thread soon

We really need The Black Watch regiment back on the streets of Belfast etc

Atoms for Peace

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Celtic hegemony

It seems the Celtic countries aren't as similar as people think

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/18/genetic-study-30-percent-white-british-dna-german-ancestry

Surprisingly, the study showed no genetic basis for a single “Celtic” group, with people living in Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and Cornwall being among the most different form each other genetically.

Chris_Heilong

Aegir wrote: »

It seems the Celtic countries aren't as similar as people think

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/18/genetic-study-30-percent-white-british-dna-german-ancestry

The DNA website I use has Irish sharing the vast majority of our DNA with Scots and people from Wales as that is where most of our markers match up, and we all know Scotland was conquered by the Irish and taken from the Picts. Relatives of these same Irish who where then Scots came back to Northern Ireland during the British occupation.

England and Wales could call themselves OK Britain..

con___manx1

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Maybe we could invite England and Wales into the fold and create some sort of union.

Collins would turn in his grave if that happend.

Chris_Heilong

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

The DNA website I use has Irish sharing the vast majority of our DNA with Scots and people from Wales as that is where most of our markers match up, and we all know Scotland was conquered by the Irish and taken from the Picts. Relatives of these same Irish who where then Scots came back to Northern Ireland during the British occupation.

I'd like to see that. I don't fully understand the whole DNA thing, but i find it fascinating.

Taytoland

Jeff Devoy wrote: »

In all seriousness, I have been creating these threads out of mere curiosity. I'm trying to get opinions for a potential 'New Ireland' is all.

The new linguistics make me laugh from Irish Republicans.

Edgware

Aegir wrote: »

I'd like to see that. I don't fully understand the whole DNA thing, but i find it fascinating.

Check out Troy McLure. He has a very informative video about DNA. Explains everything

VinLieger

Preferably id just join The ROI with Scotland and leave the basket case that is NI to figure its own garbage out, not my problem as far as im concerned and weve got enough issues to be getting on with without having to take on their sh1te too.

MikeyTaylor

I'm not too sure. I was thinking maybe Orkney could be recognised as a separate constituent country, but I think that would be a bit controversial?

The Bollocks

"Should a united Ireland join with an independent Scotland and create one country?"

They should in their bollocks.

bennyineire

Deleted User wrote: »

England and Wales could call themselves OK Britain..

Or just Britain as England and Wales were called before the union with Scotland (which then became Great Britain)

PlaneSpeeking

Okay what say we join with Scotland and the name is something like Bennifer or Brangelina ?

We can take the IRE from us and the LAND from them.

Sorted.

uch

Cake, Cake, Cake

bennyineire

The last union Scotland joined in (voluntarily BTW) didn't work out to good for them so I should imagine they would't be keen on another

fleet_admiral

Id like to see a federation of Celtic nations with a rotating presidency. Us, Scotland, Isle Of Mann, Cornwall, Wales, Brittany, Etc...

Leave the brits isolated and let them return to the stone age after their Brexit vote

DEFTLEFTHAND

fleet_admiral wrote: »

Id like to see a federation of Celtic nations with a rotating presidency. Us, Scotland, Isle Of Mann, Cornwall, Wales, Brittany, Etc...

Leave the brits isolated and let them return to the stone age after their Brexit vote

A federation of fake Celts.:p The greatest myth ever floated.

Welsh voted for Brexit.

It would be wise for us to stay close with GB. Who's to know what the future of the EU is.

whisky_galore

fleet_admiral wrote: »

Id like to see a federation of Celtic nations with a rotating presidency. Us, Scotland, Isle Of Mann, Cornwall, Wales, Brittany, Etc...

Leave the brits isolated and let them return to the stone age after their Brexit vote

Britain was a 'Celtic' country.

Wonder how many on here are actually 'Celtic' and not descendants of Viking and Norman economic migrants?

EdgeCase

I'd rather see them just coexist within the EU side by side. I don't think Scotland and Ireland necessarily see eye to eye on issues like being a republic for example.

I could see an independent Scotland retaining a monarchy because there's a significant % who are keen on the status quo.

We've plenty in common but I'm not sure getting married is necessary.