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NEW 2018 Assistant Principal Officer Competition

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    #962
    tea and coffee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭tea and coffee


    APcomp wrote: »
    Back on topic, it's a bit odd that PAS have still not contacted us with more information in relation to the supervised tests (and e-tray) considering they said they would be starting them on Monday week. Some proper notice would be appreciated PAS!

    They heard you!!


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    #963
    Enova
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭Enova


    tea and coffee wrote: »
    They heard you!!

    Can you see the 'My bookings' tab? I can't.


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    #964
    tea and coffee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭tea and coffee


    Top left menu- above the My Messages tab.


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    #965
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 32,797 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Booked in there.... Only slots are 8am or 1pm so looks like a day off needed.

    Wonder how long it will take... It might say I must read instructions


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    #966
    Enova
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭Enova


    tea and coffee wrote: »
    Top left menu- above the My Messages tab.

    I wonder is it a fault with my log in. Above 'my messages' is 'my applications' when I log in.


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    #967
    CBCB
    Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭CBCB


    gmisk wrote: »
    Booked in there.... Only slots are 8am or 1pm so looks like a day off needed.

    Wonder how long it will take... It might say I must read instructions


    I don't see any instructions ? Wonder is it just verification assessment


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    #968
    tea and coffee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭tea and coffee


    Oh, Yes, that sounds like an error.


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    #969
    Enova
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭Enova


    tea and coffee wrote: »
    Top left menu- above the My Messages tab.
    tea and coffee wrote: »
    Oh, Yes, that sounds like an error.

    And there was I thinking, briefly, that PAS had gotten very efficient :rolleyes:
    Thanks for the response.


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    #970
    tea and coffee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭tea and coffee


    CBCB wrote: »
    I don't see any instructions ? Wonder is it just verification assessment

    There are no instructions. They will follow prior to the tests.


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    #971
    CBCB
    Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭CBCB


    tea and coffee wrote: »
    There are no instructions. They will follow prior to the tests.

    Thanks ! Thought I was missing something


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    #972
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 32,797 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    CBCB wrote: »
    I don't see any instructions ? Wonder is it just verification assessment
    Er what does that mean?
    I would have thought it was doing those electronic tests in person?


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    #973
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    is the job simulation and e-tray exercise the one thing?


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    #974
    Ravelleman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    channelsurfer2 wrote: »
    is the job simulation and e-tray exercise the one thing?

    I believe that the job simulation is the situational judgement test but in a slightly different format: it is time-limited and requires you to indicate the best response of several, rather than rate multiple responses.


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    #975
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 32,797 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Ravelleman wrote: »
    I believe that the job simulation is the situational judgement test but in a slightly different format: it is time-limited and requires you to indicate the best response of several, rather than rate multiple responses.
    So this booking is for situational judgement? What does the other test involve? Any idea how long it might take? Thanks


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    #976
    franklyon
    Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭franklyon


    WAW wrote: »
    Can anybody who wasn't shortlisted tell me what kind of feedback/reply they got when they e-mailed for either AP or First Secretary ? Was it helpful and did it give you an idea where you fell down? Thanks.

    I have requested an informal review for the First Secretary competition.
    Not holding my breath though.


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    #977
    CBCB
    Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭CBCB


    gmisk wrote: »
    Er what does that mean?
    I would have thought it was doing those electronic tests in person?

    That's what I was wondering. I just got a confirmation of a booking and nothing to state what for. I am assuming its verification assessments but if the slots are 8 am to 1 pm , it must be more than that.


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    #978
    Sorcha01
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭Sorcha01


    CBCB wrote: »
    That's what I was wondering. I just got a confirmation of a booking and nothing to state what for. I am assuming its verification assessments but if the slots are 8 am to 1 pm , it must be more than that.

    I have done tests like these before at PAS (different comp) and the tests slots are quite lengthy compared with the actual testing times. I was in at 08.00 and out by 10.30, when my familiarisation doc said it would be 12.00. They build in a lot of buffer.


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    #979
    CBCB
    Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭CBCB


    Sorcha01 wrote: »
    I have done tests like these before at PAS (different comp) and the tests slots are quite lengthy compared with the actual testing times. I was in at 08.00 and out by 10.30, when my familiarisation doc said it would be 12.00. They build in a lot of buffer.[/QUOTe

    Thanks for the response, that must be it, so !


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    #980
    Ahshurlookit
    Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭Ahshurlookit


    At this stage of the 2016 competition you did the verbal and numerical supervised tests, which you just had to pass. The scores didn't count towards anything. Then you did the situational test and finally the etray. If you didn't pass the previous three tests the etray wasn't marked. I think it took 4 hours in total with a 10-15 break after the first two tests.


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    #981
    quad_red
    Registered Users Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭quad_red


    Some people have got their slots for stage 2 for next week and PAS have not even given an indication when we might hear about the outcome of the informal reviews of stage 1.

    Just say your review was successfully upheld, what sort of timeline do you have to sort out time off work, travel arrangements etc.


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    #982
    Sorcha01
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭Sorcha01


    quad_red wrote: »
    Some people have got their slots for stage 2 for next week and PAS have not even given an indication when we might hear about the outcome of the informal reviews of stage 1.

    Just say your review was successfully upheld, what sort of timeline do you have to sort out time off work, travel arrangements etc.

    Not at all being pedantic but just as an FYI, I noted that they are calling this next stage 'Stage 3', not Stage 2. I found that confusing because of previous communications from them, because it jumped from Stage 1 < Stage 1 shortlisting < Stage 3.


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    #983
    PhoenixParker
    Registered Users Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    Stage 2 was shortlisting, it said so in the application documents.


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    #984
    Sorcha01
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭Sorcha01


    PhoenixParker wrote: »
    Stage 2 was shortlisting, it said so in the application documents.

    I see! In the messages from PAS, they also referred to Stage 1 shortlisting so I just was surprised when it jumped to Stage 3.


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    #985
    testingpa
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭testingpa


    Just wondering if people received a message inviting them to make a test booking? I didn't but had the option available once I logged on and have just booked.

    Also, are there only three days of testing (20,21,22 November) or have Monday and Friday been booked up already?


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    #986
    Ravelleman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    testingpa wrote: »
    Just wondering if people received a message inviting them to make a test booking? I didn't but had the option available once I logged on and have just booked.

    Also, are there only three days of testing (20,21,22 November) or have Monday and Friday been booked up already?

    All five days were available originally.


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    #987
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    testingpa wrote: »
    Just wondering if people received a message inviting them to make a test booking? I didn't but had the option available once I logged on and have just booked.

    Yep, I got an email and text message advising me to check for messages on the PAS site.


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    #988
    rcard
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭rcard


    Notice up about the testing now.

    Says: "I am also enclosing details of the e-tray sample exercise which you may access in order to prepare for the actual Assistant Principal e-tray assessment. This will enable you to become familiar with the e-Tray exercise and with some of the background materials for the exercise. Please do not be alarmed on the test day as it can be assumed that the actual etray exercise will be more difficult"

    I am alarmed. At the syntax in this sentence.


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    #989
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    interesting scenario example in the guidance material. I guess the key is in reading the detail but two or three of the actions are equally rated to me....


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    #990
    RiseToMe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭RiseToMe


    Just to follow up on the informal review process outcome, still deemed not to have met the criteria, so proceeding to formal review.


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    #991
    googleted
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭googleted


    RiseToMe wrote: »
    Just to follow up on the informal review process outcome, still deemed not to have met the criteria, so proceeding to formal review.

    Same here. Found the response to informal review to be very vague and pretty much pro forma. Provided no further detail on my why I was not shortlisted, just that the decision was being affirmed. Not much help to me in attempting to address areas where I apparently lack sufficient experience.


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