State of Dublin infrastructure

Michelin

Just back from a stint in Germany, and was driving around town this evening. The roads are in bits holy bejasus what a mess. Ive only been gone a few months but all the traffic lights stop start stop start stop start. Cars must be wrecked never mind commuters heads. Had a delivery job abroad and needed to venture into a few cities in Netherlands and Germany and traffic just flows much better due to flyovers and roundabouts. Rant over...

Pinch Flat

Having no decent public transport is also a notable difference. And decent facilities for cycling. Cars have dominated Dublin yet no decent infrastructure has been put in. Ah sure just put up a few no left / right turn sighs and a few one way streets. Be grand.

Faith+1

Plus the amount of speedbumps in Dublin wreck your fcuking car

Assetbacked

What you’re seeing in Dublin is the rubble from the lost decade. A stagnant, punishment decade for those that decided to stay in the country. No investment in infrastructure, education or the people in general. It’s a shambles.

odyssey06

Assetbacked wrote: »

What you’re seeing in Dublin is the rubble from the lost decade. A stagnant, punishment decade for those that decided to stay in the country. No investment in infrastructure, education or the people in general. It’s a shambles.

Really? I don't remember things being hunky dory in 2007 or any serious intention to do something about it.
We need a Dublin mayor elected by the people, answerable to the people, with a budget. Not some dalek.

Franz Von Peppercorn

What are you expecting in Dublin? Flyovers?

Public transport needs to be prioritised.

Idbatterim

Their love for junctions and traffic lights here is pathetic ...

Franz Von Peppercorn

Idbatterim wrote: »

Their love for junctions and traffic lights here is pathetic ...

So no traffic lights then. And junctions have to go, somehow.

Idbatterim

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

So no traffic lights then. And junctions have to go, somehow.

There are way too many lights and lots of places should have free flow junctions or flyovers. Tallaght should have been made a free flow junction when they were upgrading the m50

Amirani

Where in Germany were you? In many cases Germany had the advantage of being able to plan and completely rebuild their infrastructure after WW2.

fly_agaric

Amirani wrote: »

...In many cases Germany had the advantage of being able to plan and completely rebuild their infrastructure after WW2.

It seems to be a common thought, but IMO its not based on the reality of Irish government & organisation. We had green field sites for these well planned communities & infrastructure around Dublin. They are all now covered in sprawling semi-d front & back garden housing estates (reaching out to Meath & Kildare even) with all the planning of a cow pat. If Dublin had been totally bombed out in the war, we'd have rebuilt it worse than before I'm afraid.

L1011

Idbatterim wrote: »

There are way too many lights and lots of places should have free flow junctions or flyovers. Tallaght should have been made a free flow junction when they were upgrading the m50

That isn't in Dublin City though.


Dublin City's infrastructural issues are basically a lack of cohesive public transport. Metro and DART Underground would provide the basis of that. Condition of the roads would be a much more minor thing then, as well as easier to fix and longer lasting.

wakka12

Amirani wrote: »

Where in Germany were you? In many cases Germany had the advantage of being able to plan and completely rebuild their infrastructure after WW2.

That's a bit of a myth, many European cities were well designed with great infrastructure before the war Barcelona Paris Budapest etc , most cities which were destroyed to the extent that they were completely rebuilt were just hastily and cheaply rebuilt and are just still recovering from that today , many cities like cologne and Hamburg are today still rebuilding much of their post war buildings due to how poor quality they were built, British cities like Birmingham were much better before the war too, total destruction is very rarely a good thing for a city

Dublin is far from perfect but as another poster said, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that Dublin would be worse , much much worse if it had been bombed and redeveloped in the late 20th C

Sardine

L1011 wrote: »

That isn't in Dublin City though.


Dublin City's infrastructural issues are basically a lack of cohesive public transport. Metro and DART Underground would provide the basis of that. Condition of the roads would be a much more minor thing then, as well as easier to fix and longer lasting.

None of these things are going to happen any time soon though. Unless they start digging the metro soon, it will be scrapped when the next recession hits. The Luas is no good to me as I live Northside near the coast. I have the dart which is late every day, and they never give a reason for it. I don't use it often
Best thing to do is cycle or get a motorbike for the city. The transport is brutal, but you're grand on a bike, it's easy to get around.