Winter 2018/2019 - General Discussion

Captain Snow

kod87 wrote: »

Oh look, it's cloudy, dark and grey again.

This type of weather kills me. Just a glimpse of blue sky or sun....:D

Franz Von Peppercorn

Real dark this morning. The sunrise still fairly late.

Harry Palmr

I don;t suffer SAD on a technical diagnosed level but I'm very lacking any energy and wit in this gloom

CrowdedHouse

Just by pure bad timing the battery went in my Davis Vue on the day after I left for Christmas away (22nd), there only has been enough solar power to bring it up 4 0r 5 days since.

YanSno

6z gfs pushes the cold air further east. Those cold upper air temp stays well away from the east

Tabnabs

I saw the most beautiful sunrise this morning travelling south on the N11. I couldn't figure out what I was looking at it's been that long. And just as the lower limb of the sun cleared the horizon, the upper limb was slipping into the blanket of low cloud. Literally a two minute window of sunlight is what we got today.

Mortelaro

YanSno wrote: »

6z gfs pushes the cold air further east. Those cold upper air temp stays well away from the east

Doesn't matter
Options seen now,hot or cold are not reliable at all
Colder options in FI and nearer should become the majority in the next week or two (unless this SSW joins the 43% known to have no impact)but the usual caveats regarding FI apply

Tabnabs

Looks like the Polish really are having the best of the winter weather.

https://twitter.com/severeweatherEU/status/1081138246036406272

irishrover99

Mortelaro wrote: »

Doesn't matter
Options seen now,hot or cold are not reliable at all
Colder options in FI and nearer should become the majority in the next week or two (unless this SSW joins the 43% known to have no impact)but the usual caveats regarding FI apply

The more i see this, it reminds me of Only fools and horses.
"This time next year rodders, we're gonna be millionaires"

Eventually one of them will be right.

On todays Weather.
Its gone from mild and overcast to bloody cold and overcast.
Yipeeee.

Defaulter1831

irishrover99 wrote: »

The more i see this, it reminds me of Only fools and horses.
"This time next year rodders, we're gonna be millionaires"

Eventually one of them will be right.

On todays Weather.
Its gone from mild and overcast to bloody cold and overcast.
Yipeeee.

Simply untrue. The top posters all mentioned that the Strat warming had a 55% chance approx of effecting us. And if it did effect us it would take around 3 weeks.

What appeared on yesterday's charts for FI Mon-Wednesday next week was simply some cold weather in FI.

irishrover99

Defaulter1831 wrote: »

Simply untrue. The top posters all mentioned that the Strat warming had a 55% chance approx of effecting us. And if it did effect us it would take around 3 weeks.

What appeared on yesterday's charts for FI Mon-Wednesday next week was simply some cold weather in FI.

I never said anything about the posters.
I was talking about what the charts are showing or not showing.

Defaulter1831

irishrover99 wrote: »

I never said anything about the posters.
I was talking about what the charts are showing or not showing.

I understand. However the charts as the poster indicated may only start hinting at what's in store around 20th January next week. It's 16 days from today. The last frames of GFS FI shown today won't be showing up anything of note as, it's so far away and we're unsure of the SSW propagation down through the atmosphere.

MidMan25

irishrover99 wrote: »

The more i see this, it reminds me of Only fools and horses.
"This time next year rodders, we're gonna be millionaires"

Eventually one of them will be right.

On todays Weather.
Its gone from mild and overcast to bloody cold and overcast.
Yipeeee.

Every now and then a poster seems to pop up out of nowhere and begin posting non stop, often winding up other regular members of the thread.

sryanbruen

Defaulter1831 wrote: »

Yes was about to say that Cold spell brought about by an SSW iirc?

The central date for the major SSW event in January 2009 was January 23rd which given time lag and the quick response nature of splits, the tropospheric response would be around January 31st. This was the time when the Scandi High had influence over Ireland with the Atlantic depressions being pulled back west. Heavy snow became afoot rather than the cold being significant (like -5.1c was the air minimum during the spell at any synoptic station) through the first week of February continuing into the second week though in the form of showers. Then by the third week, it all just went away like nothing happened. The second half of the month was very mild and cloudy. March was mild too. Kind of strange how quick it disappeared especially given how major the split was.

Defaulter1831

MidMan25 wrote: »

Every now and then a poster seems to pop up out of nowhere and begin posting non stop, often winding up other regular members of the thread.

Fraxinus was my favourite. He was a pensioner who would reach the depths of despair if 'promised' snow didn't come to Donegal

Mortelaro

Defaulter1831 wrote: »

I understand. However the charts as the poster indicated may only start hinting at what's in store around 20th January next week. It's 16 days from today. The last frames of GFS FI shown today won't be showing up anything of note as, it's so far away and we're unsure of the SSW propagation down through the atmosphere.

Thanks
Fi is FI regardless of the strat
There's some downwelling of the strat heat taken into the models but it must have them all wobbly yet
Once actual highs and where they are likely to be get factored in,we know more and can project more
That's 3 weeks
Up to then cold members will be in the ascendancy in the model ensembles
Quite where they play out for real is always the question
Ergo the UK met office is quite right to highlight the potential but not a reality

Defaulter1831

sryanbruen wrote: »

The central date for the major SSW event in January 2009 was January 23rd which given time lag and the quick response nature of splits, the tropospheric response would be around January 31st. This was the time when the Scandi High had influence over Ireland with the Atlantic depressions being pulled back west. Heavy snow became afoot rather than the cold being significant (like -5.1c was the air minimum during the spell at any synoptic station) through the first week of February continuing into the second week though in the form of showers. Then by the third week, it all just went away like nothing happened. The second half of the month was very mild and cloudy. March was mild too. Kind of strange how quick it disappeared especially given how major the split was.

A potent enough wintry couple of days early Feb alright. The Naas road had bad traffic jams etc.

Cork Boy 53

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Up to yesterday, Cork Airport has recorded 11 consecutive days without sun, and totals not much better around the rest of the country. The Dublin region and Malin Hd seem to be fairing best, relatively speaking.

No sunshine in my area of west Cork since 21st December, a full two weeks ago, and not looking like there will be any over the next few days at least either.

sryanbruen

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

No sunshine in my area of west Cork since 21st December, a full two weeks ago, and not looking like there will be any in the next few days either.

It's ironic how Cork Airport was the sunniest synoptic station in December 2018 with 35.2 hrs of sunshine whilst Belmullet was the dullest with 11.6 hrs of sunshine. The latter made it not only its dullest December on record (back to 1956) but also its dullest month on record beating the previous record of 15.0 hrs back in December 1993.

Cork Airport's dullest Decembers:

1. 1991 - 17.9 hrs
2. 1977 - 19.8 hrs
3. 1987 - 20.5 hrs
4. 2015 - 24.3 hrs
5. 1989 - 29.8 hrs

Belmullet's dullest months:

1. Dec 2018 - 11.6 hrs
2. Dec 1993 - 15.0 hrs
3. Dec 1974 - 15.8 hrs
4. Jan 1981 - 16.7 hrs
5. Dec 1999 - 17.7 hrs

Data comes from Met Éireann.

snaps

Highest part of our village at approx 1250M asl. 1m plus of snow.



Getting to school this morning......



The next storm front has just arrived here now after a cold sunny morning and the snow is coming down thick and fast. Orange warnings for another 30-50cm next 48 hours.

Mortelaro

snaps wrote: »

Highest part of our village at approx 1250M asl. 1m plus of snow.



Getting to school this morning......



The next storm front has just arrived here now after a cold sunny morning and the snow is coming down thick and fast. Orange warnings for another 30-50cm next 48 hours.

It'll soon be like Sallins last march if that keeps up

Cork Boy 53

snaps wrote: »

Highest part of our village at approx 1250M asl. 1m plus of snow.



Getting to school this morning......



The next storm front has just arrived here now after a cold sunny morning and the snow is coming down thick and fast. Orange warnings for another 30-50cm next 48 hours.

Is that a horse or a reindeer at the front of that sleigh train if that is the correct term for it?

ZX7R

snaps wrote: »

Highest part of our village at approx 1250M asl. 1m plus of snow.



Getting to school this morning......



The next storm front has just arrived here now after a cold sunny morning and the snow is coming down thick and fast. Orange warnings for another 30-50cm next 48 hours.

I be moving to live in Poland in about 3 years moving everything lock stock and barrel..
Can't wait

SleetAndSnow

That 35 hours for sun must have come from the start of December, I think there was bursts of sun then alright. Definitely wasn't from the 14th or so onwards (had my exams and there was constant rain and wind during them). And since then it's been mostly cloudy and is today still . Is the sun real? Haha

sryanbruen

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

That 35 hours for sun must have come from the start of December, I think there was bursts of sun then alright. Definitely wasn't from the 14th or so onwards (had my exams and there was constant rain and wind during them). And since then it's been mostly cloudy and is today still . Is the sun real? Haha

Here's the daily sunshine totals for Cork Airport during the month. The majority of the sun came from the first half of December yes.



Data comes from Met Éireann.

Rebelbrowser

sryanbruen wrote: »

Here's the daily sunshine totals for Cork Airport during the month. The majority of the sun came from the first half of December yes.

Data comes from Met Éireann.

If Cork was the sunniest place in Ireland in December it scares me to think what the rest of the country was like!

Defaulter1831

sryanbruen wrote: »

Here's the daily sunshine totals for Cork Airport during the month. The majority of the sun came from the first half of December yes.



Data comes from Met Éireann.

It's beginning to look like a solar sunspot gif;)

Gonzo

I can only really remember about 2 days in December where we had sun shining for more than a few minutes, I think it was December 1st and last Thursday I think. I haven't seen any sun or blue sky since. November was also similar where it just seemed to rain everyday.

sryanbruen

Gonzo wrote: »

I can only really remember about 2 days in December where we had sun shining for more than a few minutes, I think it was December 1st and last Thursday I think. I haven't seen any sun or blue sky since. November was also similar where it just seemed to rain everyday.

The last “very sunny” day I remember was November 18th. That was when the easterly started before the cool air arrived which ended in the heavy rainfalls in the days after it. I had purchased my new camera for taking photos in a Black Friday sale and I captured some shots of the moon on that perfectly clear night with it. Before that, probably November 1st.

Artane2002

It's been so dull for the last two months to the point where I'm so used to it that it doesn't bother me. It just feels so normal to have nonstop grey skies now.