Tyrone Boycott of RTE Continuing Through Final

Paranoid Mandroid

Dymo wrote: »

This is the skit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIL2DcHN6ow

It did seem harmless but naive and a lack of judgement which RTE apologised for straight away. I've seen it reported that his daughter was mentioned in the skit, all false.

Putting aside it being in bad taste, it's not one bit funny. They've more work to do than making sure thier content is in good taste.

Frankie Boyle says way more offensive stuff but his delivery and content is excellent. That's comedy. This rte piece is pure garbage. Anyway...

FrancieBrady

Paranoid Mandroid wrote: »

Putting aside it being in bad taste, it's not one bit funny. They've more work to do than making sure thier content is in good taste.

Frankie Boyle says way more offensive stuff but his delivery and content is excellent. That's comedy. This rte piece is pure garbage. Anyway...

To put it in context it was a 2 minute segment at the start of a magazine show. Not exactly where you would go to consume high end comedy.

Paranoid Mandroid

FrancieBrady wrote: »

To put it in context it was a 2 minute segment at the start of a magazine show. Not exactly where you would go to consume high end comedy.

Ok that's true. Micky mouse stuff

LoughNeagh2017

Mickey Harte took the cup to my secondary school in South Derry in 2008, he also gave a speech to us in 2010 (couple months before daughter died) I don't like Tyrone GAA but he seemed like a decent sort, I don't want to see him lifting any more cups though.

WanderlustIre

LoughNeagh2017 wrote: »

Mickey Harte took the cup to my school in South Derry in 2008, he also gave a speech to us in 2010 (couple months before daughter died) I don't like Tyrone GAA but he seemed like a decent sort, I don't want to see him lifting any more cups though.

He's an ego the size of tyrone

LoughNeagh2017

Sycamore Tree wrote: »

Tyrone will do their talking on the football pitch.

By talking, I mean nasty sledging.
By football pitch, I mean handpassing pitch.

They don't even retire from sledging either, that vile Eoin Mulligan making Londonderry jokes recently on twitter, the man from the plantation town of Cookstown, I made sure to put him in his place.

LoughNeagh2017

cruizer101 wrote: »

I find it funny they way people refer to RTE doing this insensitive skit, like the board of directors got together and planned it. John Murray did it, probably with approval from a couple of producers, it wasn't like everyone in RTE had a part in it, in any big organization you will have people who mess up, that doesn't mean you should boycott the whole organization when they have apologized.

That's not how our Northern minds work, if a county Cork man makes an anti northern joke we boycott the whole of Munster.

vicwatson

Billy Mays wrote: »

What made Harte think he should have had any say on who RTE uses to commentate on games?

Maybe the same reason he thought he had a say at the rally for Sean Quinn - up on the back of the trailer with Colm O'Rourke.

bobbyss

ProudDUB wrote:

When Micheal O'Muircheartaigh retired, RTE chose not to give his job (No 1 choice for radio commentator) to just one person, who was guaranteed to get all the big games. Instead, they rotated the role amongst a few commentators - Daragh Moloney, Ger Canning, Marty Morrissey etc. Brian Carty still did games, but not the big ones, like finals. BC was a close, personal friend of the Hartes & MH lobbied RTE to give him the job of Senior match day commentator, or whatever MO'M's old job title was.

ProudDUB wrote:

The letter he wrote to RTE was made public. RTE's response was that firstly, MO'M's old job didn't exist anymore, so they couldn't give BC a position that had been abolished. Secondly, they made their own programming choices thank you very much and didn't take too kindly to GAA managers trying to tell them what to do. Cue all this bad feeling kicking off & some genius in the RTE "comedy" department coming up with the idea for the skit.

I see thanks. I must check out that letter. As poster above says it really is a MH thing and ban should not be so widespread. Tyrone GAA must back him though? Do all the players? Getting to an all Ireland final means a lot of publicity that players look forward to. It does not hinder your work career. Are they happy to forego that?

JoeA3

I think its telling that his former star player and captain, recently retired, now regularly appears on the Sunday Game.

Seems like its Mickey's way or no way, so long as you're answerable to him.

LoughNeagh2017

Billy Mays wrote: »

I wonder does Harte feel he should apologise for giving a character reference for a bloke who sexually assaulted a woman and dumped her on a country road half naked in the middle of the night

I was reading about that, the media kept saying he lived in County Tyrone but he lived in Co. Derry 10 minutes from me, I wonder how Harte knew him though.

Strabanimal

Anything to get at Tyrone. Everyone supports him in this decision in Tyrone. Truly and utterly pathetic taste.

Also an atrocious tv station.

Strabanimal

JoeA3 wrote: »

I think its telling that his former star player and captain, recently retired, now regularly appears on the Sunday Game.

Seems like its Mickey's way or no way, so long as you're answerable to him.

Money talks

In yesterday’s Irish News, Gavin ‘Horse’ Devlin didn’t miss his former team-mate to hit the wall.

Clearly vexed by Cavanagh’s damning assessment of what’s wrong in Tyrone, Devlin revealed that Cavanagh had ample opportunities to voice his concerns.

“If I had been captain, I have no doubt that I could have met Mickey and said: ‘Mickey, I think this is what we should do,’ or ‘What about trying this?’” Devlin said.

“I wouldn’t sit and keep my mouth shut. I’ve had a number of conversations with Sean and he never mentioned anything about styles of play or what we should and shouldn’t do. If he thought something wasn’t right, as captain, why didn’t he come and have a conversation with us rather than saying it in an RTE studio?

“That’s my opinion on it… The captains we’ve had in the past, I’ve no doubt would have come to Mickey and had their say.”

Look at what other player's from that time have been saying about Cavanagh too.

ProudDUB

ProudDUB wrote: »

When Micheal O'Muircheartaigh retired, RTE chose not to give his job (No 1 choice for radio commentator) to just one person, who was guaranteed to get all the big games. Instead, they rotated the role amongst a few commentators - Daragh Moloney, Ger Canning, Marty Morrissey etc. Brian Carty still did games, but not the big ones, like finals. BC was a close, personal friend of the Hartes & MH lobbied RTE to give him the job of Senior match day commentator, or whatever MO'M's old job title was.

The letter he wrote to RTE was made public. RTE's response was that firstly, MO'M's old job didn't exist anymore, so they couldn't give BC a position that had been abolished. Secondly, they made their own programming choices thank you very much and didn't take too kindly to GAA managers trying to tell them what to do. Cue all this bad feeling kicking off & some genius in the RTE "comedy" department coming up with the idea for the skit.

Whatever about the Mickey Harte aspect here, I always thought Brian Carthy was shabbily treated by RTE over this.

munsterlegend

Strabanimal wrote: »

Anything to get at Tyrone. Everyone supports him in this decision in Tyrone. Truly and utterly pathetic taste.

Also an atrocious tv station.

Everyone? Plenty ex Tyrone players talk to rte. this is also a Tyrone squad who say a decade of the rosary before every match. They might need 10 full ones before the Dublin match.

dk1982

Strabanimal wrote: »

Anything to get at Tyrone. Everyone supports him in this decision in Tyrone. Truly and utterly pathetic taste.

Also an atrocious tv station.

and that's why neutrals like me who would normally shout for anyone but Dublin, wouldnt actually mind seeing them win Sunday. Serious chips on shoulders up in Tyrone with Harte the ring leader. A seriously unlikable man.

FrancieBrady

Strabanimal wrote: »

Anything to get at Tyrone. Everyone supports him in this decision in Tyrone. Truly and utterly pathetic taste.

Also an atrocious tv station.

In fairness that is nonsense. Far from 'everyone' in Tyrone supports this. I am in Tyrone quite a bit and know a good few from it and they certainly don't.

There will be no tears in certain quarters when Mickey departs.

Just An Opinion

dk1982 wrote: »

and that's why neutrals like me who would normally shout for anyone but Dublin, wouldnt actually mind seeing them win Sunday. Serious chips on shoulders up in Tyrone with Harte the ring leader. A seriously unlikable man.

This would mean you’re not neutral though?

Fann Linn

munsterlegend wrote: »

Everyone? Plenty ex Tyrone players talk to rte. this is also a Tyrone squad who say a decade of the rosary before every match. They might need 10 full ones before the Dublin match.

Is this actually true?

Call me Al

Fann Linn wrote: »

Is this actually true?

Re the rosary? Yes it is. Widely reported (quoting players) last year.

Water John

Gavin should try that too. He'd get some quare looks.
I'd say 31 counties supporting the Dubs, this time.

ProudDUB

Deleted User wrote: »

Whatever about the Mickey Harte aspect here, I always thought Brian Carthy was shabbily treated by RTE over this.

I don't. He is the worst of all the GAA commentators imo. Sounds like a Civics teacher from 1954. Mind you, Ger Canning and Marty Morrissey aren't much better, so he maybe he is entitled to feel aggrieved, but in terms of commentator quality, BC just sounds very dated and old fashioned imo.

BPKS

Call me Al wrote: »

Re the rosary? Yes it is. Widely reported (quoting players) last year.

I have it on good authority that Dublin have an entire backroom staff JUST to say the rosary.

Dick Pickle

A lot of neutrals will be hoping Dublin give Tyrone a serious trimming over this

jmayo

ProudDUB wrote: »

When Micheal O'Muircheartaigh retired, RTE chose not to give his job (No 1 choice for radio commentator) to just one person, who was guaranteed to get all the big games. Instead, they rotated the role amongst a few commentators - Daragh Moloney, Ger Canning, Marty Morrissey etc. Brian Carty still did games, but not the big ones, like finals. BC was a close, personal friend of the Hartes & MH lobbied RTE to give him the job of Senior match day commentator, or whatever MO'M's old job title was.

The letter he wrote to RTE was made public. RTE's response was that firstly, MO'M's old job didn't exist anymore, so they couldn't give BC a position that had been abolished. Secondly, they made their own programming choices thank you very much and didn't take too kindly to GAA managers trying to tell them what to do. Cue all this bad feeling kicking off & some genius in the RTE "comedy" department coming up with the idea for the skit.

Normally I would be for the fellow Westerner, but I seriously hate the sound of Carty's whiney voice.
Now as others have said RTE commentators are much of a much.
Canning is terrible and Tangoed boy from Clare/New York is a fecking caricature of God knows what.

It was none of Harte's business who got the job.

vicwatson wrote: »

Maybe the same reason he thought he had a say at the rally for Sean Quinn - up on the back of the trailer with Colm O'Rourke.

You can tell a lot by someone's friends.

Harte's comments about the quinn's were :

"You know decent people when you meet them. The Quinns are decent people"

Yep that was easy for him to say, it wasn't his taxes or insurance policies that were going to pay for the gambling and greed of the Quinns.

The more I come across Harte's utterances on topics outside of sport the more I detest the man.

Fair enough if he doesn't want to speak to RTE, but he shouldn't dictate what an entire panel or county does.

lertsnim

I didn't realise that song was written about Mickey Hartes daughter. Let's be realistic here. Anybody who genuinely believes that RTÉ included that song as a dig towards his daughter is deluded. Mickey Harte is a hypocrite if he calls himself a christian and I hope Dublin wipe the floor with them.

maccored

jaysus all the tyrone hate. I hope they win.

judeboy101

I hope they win just for the devilment of seeing "live from the winners hotel" with Alan hughes .

ProudDUB

Nobody is expressing hatred of Tyrone, its people or its players. Far from it.

However, their manager has taken some very public and controversial stances on a wide variety of things unrelated to the sports team he manages. Be it his meddling in the abortion referendum and RTE's personnel decisions, supporting dodgy businessmen, or giving character references to violent offenders, he puts himself in a position to be criticized. If people do that, they are not hating on Tyrone. They are just expressing an opinion on Mickey Harte's off the pitch activities. Let's not indulge in hyperbole here.

J Mysterio

Jesus that skit was a pile of ****e. Dreadful. Not offensive, but shıte.

DickSwiveller Returns

ProudDUB wrote: »

Nobody is expressing hatred of Tyrone, its people or its players. Far from it.

However, their manager has taken some very public and controversial stances on a wide variety of things unrelated to the sports team he manages. Be it his meddling in the abortion referendum and RTE's personnel decisions, supporting dodgy businessmen, or giving character references to violent offenders, he puts himself in a position to be criticized. If people do that, they are not hating on Tyrone. They are just expressing an opinion on Mickey Harte's off the pitch activities. Let's not indulge in hyperbole here.

Why shouldn't he give his opinion on abortion? Would you be just as offended if a manager declared himself pro choice? I doubt it.

DickSwiveller Returns

Fair play Mickey. Stick it to those **** in RTE.

bruschi

DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »

Why shouldn't he give his opinion on abortion? Would you be just as offended if a manager declared himself pro choice? I doubt it.

he had no vote in the abortion referendum, so why he was sticking his oar in campaigning whichever way he was voting was unnecessary.

DickSwiveller Returns

bruschi wrote: »

he had no vote in the abortion referendum, so why he was sticking his oar in campaigning whichever way he was voting was unnecessary.

He's an Irishman so clearly he has an interest in what happens in the Republic.

ProudDUB

DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »

Why shouldn't he give his opinion on abortion? Would you be just as offended if a manager declared himself pro choice? I doubt it.

As a private citizen, he entitled to give his opinion on whatever he wants. And I am entitled to disagree or agree with him on that opinion. If I disagree, it does not mean that I hate Tyrone, or him, or his team.

As to the Repeal referendum, he was the figurehead of an organisation that tried to associate itself with the GAA as an organisation, by virtue of its name and having a meeting on a GAA pitch at a GAA club. The GAA was put in the position of having to come out and make a statement disassociating itself with the group and all such groups. If that is not meddling to an extreme degree, I don't know what is.

Happy4all

Classic Church worshipper who ironically cannot find the will to show forgiveness.

FrancieBrady

ProudDUB wrote: »

Nobody is expressing hatred of Tyrone, its people or its players. Far from it.

However, their manager has taken some very public and controversial stances on a wide variety of things unrelated to the sports team he manages. Be it his meddling in the abortion referendum and RTE's personnel decisions, supporting dodgy businessmen, or giving character references to violent offenders, he puts himself in a position to be criticized. If people do that, they are not hating on Tyrone. They are just expressing an opinion on Mickey Harte's off the pitch activities. Let's not indulge in hyperbole here.

That is akin to the fantasy that the whole country bar Tyrone will be shouting for Dublin.



There is quite a bit of generalising about Tyrone team and Tyrone supporters on here.
To 'not want them to win' as a neutral is to generalise about them.

Bonniedog

No-one in Dublin could care less who neutrals will be supporting.


Which is not to deny the vicarious pleasure of supporters from most counties who will probably never be in a final.

hunter164

The sooner Mickey Harte retires the better. Spends his life voicing his opinions on things that he shouldn’t be getting involved in and drawing the GAA into it. The way he tried to gather GAA players together for a NO against repeal vote and tried to put it as the GAA were against repeal was diabolical.

Bonniedog

He is as much entitled to his opinions as others within the GAA who are not shy about giving their views on all sorts of matters. The fact that you may not agree with him is neither here nor there,

The Talking Bread

This was completely cynical by Harte and those who used his position in the GAA to garner votes.

"GAA Athletes for No" FFS

EXCERPT FROM ARTICLE:

"The statement that was put out

"The GAA’s vision is that everyone be welcome to participate fully in our games and culture, that they thrive and develop their potential, and be inspired to keep a lifelong engagement with our association.” It goes on to includes lines such as: “We are an inclusive organisation. There is space for everybody at our table.”

All the way through, the statement is littered with ‘we’ and ‘our’ – in reference to the GAA as a whole. When it gets to the meat of the statement, it reads: “In keeping with those principles, we are coming together today to ask the Irish people to vote No on May 25th.”

There is no gear change, no line separating their own personal views from that of the association, nothing like that. To anyone reading the statement, it looks like a declaration of the position of the GAA on the matter."

Obviously the less naive average person wouldn't use this particular event to influence their opinion on the issue but a lot would have.

He done the exact same thing in 2013 in a Northern Ireland campaign to amend their bill on abortion.

I respect his views but not how he conducts himself using his position to influence and attempting to associate the GAA with his beliefs

Bonniedog

https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/gaa/gaa-players-organisations-back-yes-vote-in-referendum-675916.html

Was that okay?

In my opinion both GPA and Harte are equally - their favourite word! - to put their views on different issues once they are not directly calling for support of a particular party which is in breach of GAA constitution.

The Talking Bread

Bonniedog wrote: »

https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/gaa/gaa-players-organisations-back-yes-vote-in-referendum-675916.html

Was that okay?

In my opinion both GPA and Harte are equally - their favourite word! - to put their views on different issues once they are not directly calling for support of a particular party which is in breach of GAA constitution.

No, to a small degree, again it ostracized certain of it's members.

But there is a difference to be fair. The GPA is essentially a Union in its make up, a private one.

FrancieBrady

The Talking Bread wrote: »

No.

There were sections of different organisations/unions/professions who did the same thing.

I didn't agree with these people but I never once thought they were speaking for the GAA as a whole.

mada82

How long after a close family bereavement is a public figure excempt for “comedy” sketches?

Glebee

Ive been hoping for the last couple of years that somebody would catch Dublin on teh hop and beat them. I can wait one more game. Hope Dublin beat the lard out of them.

Speakerboxx

just because Harte and Tyrone GAA refuses to engage with RTE why the hell do you all want to see Tyrone destroyed? We all know rte television is a load of waffle and they are doing us all of favour by staying away from that cringe up for match programme and rte live at the winners hotel. Who really cares about that nonsense? We all care about the match and who is goin to win it but we can all do without the hype and build-up especially with it involves RTE. Serves no purpose at all.

munsterlegend

hunter164 wrote: »

The sooner Mickey Harte retires the better. Spends his life voicing his opinions on things that he shouldn’t be getting involved in and drawing the GAA into it. The way he tried to gather GAA players together for a NO against repeal vote and tried to put it as the GAA were against repeal was diabolical.

I agree he would be better off focusing on football which he obviously has a talent for given Tyrone's successes under his stewardship. Whoever in RTE was responsible for that sketch should have been sacked for stupidity alone given the circumstances. Then again how a gaa manager believes he can have some input into a rte commentator position is quite strange to say the least. Harte is a great man to preach but like all preachers perhaps not too keen to reflect on their own actions.

However we all know this tyrone boycott serves no one really long term and will be gone when he finally leaves the stage. The Tyrone players past and present i doubt would have an issue speaking with rte when Harte retires. I dont think the banquet will be an issue as I can't see them getting close to the Dubs in croker but i think it would be a shame if RTE were not there to cover their celebration as it would be some achievement for Harte and Tyrone to win this one. Probably the biggest upset since 1982 if it occurred.

RabbleRouser2k

Speakerboxx wrote: »

just because Harte and Tyrone GAA refuses to engage with RTE why the hell do you all want to see Tyrone destroyed? We all know rte television is a load of waffle and they are doing us all of favour by staying away from that cringe up for match programme aand live at the winners hotel Who really cares about that nonsense? We all care about the match and who is goin to win it but we can all do without the hype and build-up especially with the involves. Serves no purpose and is only money for the big boys.

Because it's Tyrone... :cool:

And yeah, Up for the Match is like a dose of diarrhea. The worst thing is it's always on when there's bloody else nothing else on.
Got stuck watching it because I couldn't go out due to heavy rain. There's not enough alcohol in the world to get through it.
That and Grainne was totally out of it during the last one- she was like a mental patient laughing at her own jokes, while everyone else ignored her. (And talking about the 'Dublin v Monaghan All-Ireland Football final'... yeah, might be time to hire someone else, RTE).

Anyways, Harte is climbing up on top of his 'moral high ground' which he condemns others for doing- but yet he continues to allow Cathal McCarron to play (not in this year's All Ireland-he's got a knee injury).

For those not in the know-here's Cathal's list of indiscretions.

1) Gambled away €200 000 of his dad's money due to a gambling addiction.
2) Set up a fake cancer charity in order to dupe his neighbours out of money and feed his addiction. (Harte forgave him)
3) Starred in a gay porn video (this one is important for later) and gambled away the €3000 he earned from that in two days. (Mickey, doesn't the bible forsake prostitution?)
4) Met with a girl on Tinder, who was 15 years old. Questions remain about their 'meeting'-as the girl underwent an STD and STI test (due to the gay porn Cathal was involved in-the porn industry is still pretty lax when it comes to sexually transmitted diseases), and there was a very awkward interview on newstalk. (she also went on psychiatric drugs, and had multiple breakdowns).
http://www.the42.ie/cathal-mccarron-tense-interview-off-the-ball-3114914-Dec2016/
5) He was meant to be in a steady relationship-so he possibly cheated on his girlfriend (and mother of his one year old kid) with a minor.
6) Hasn't seen one of his kids in years-the mother has kept them apart (can you blame her?)
7) Cried victim when he was dropped from the Late Late show. He was due on to promote his book, but the teenage girl's father pleaded with RTE not to allow him on the show to promote his book.
8) Cried Victim when he was fined €500 for starting a row in a pub in 2016. He avoided a conviction.

And yet Harte and his God bothery allows this guy to continue to play. And then blames RTE for making him look bad.

Nope, Harte, you did that all on your own.

DickSwiveller Returns

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Because it's Tyrone... :cool:

And yeah, Up for the Match is like a dose of diarrhea. The worst thing is it's always on when there's bloody else nothing else on.
Got stuck watching it because I couldn't go out due to heavy rain. There's not enough alcohol in the world to get through it.
That and Grainne was totally out of it during the last one- she was like a mental patient laughing at her own jokes, while everyone else ignored her. (And talking about the 'Dublin v Monaghan All-Ireland Football final'... yeah, might be time to hire someone else, RTE).

Anyways, Harte is climbing up on top of his 'moral high ground' which he condemns others for doing- but yet he continues to allow Cathal McCarron to play (not in this year's All Ireland-he's got a knee injury).

For those not in the know-here's Cathal's list of indiscretions.

1) Gambled away €200 000 of his dad's money due to a gambling addiction.
2) Set up a fake cancer charity in order to dupe his neighbours out of money and feed his addiction. (Harte forgave him)
3) Starred in a gay porn video (this one is important for later) and gambled away the €3000 he earned from that in two days. (Mickey, doesn't the bible forsake prostitution?)
4) Met with a girl on Tinder, who was 15 years old. Questions remain about their 'meeting'-as the girl underwent an STD and STI test (due to the gay porn Cathal was involved in-the porn industry is still pretty lax when it comes to sexually transmitted diseases), and there was a very awkward interview on newstalk. (she also went on psychiatric drugs, and had multiple breakdowns).
http://www.the42.ie/cathal-mccarron-tense-interview-off-the-ball-3114914-Dec2016/
5) He was meant to be in a steady relationship-so he possibly cheated on his girlfriend (and mother of his one year old kid) with a minor.
6) Hasn't seen one of his kids in years-the mother has kept them apart (can you blame her?)
7) Cried victim when he was dropped from the Late Late show. He was due on to promote his book, but the teenage girl's father pleaded with RTE not to allow him on the show to promote his book.
8) Cried Victim when he was fined €500 for starting a row in a pub in 2016. He avoided a conviction.

And yet Harte and his God bothery allows this guy to continue to play. And then blames RTE for making him look bad.

Nope, Harte, you did that all on your own.

I don't know why sectarians keep bashing Harte over his religious beliefs. I admire Harte's strong faith and the admirable way he handled his daughter's death. His falling out with RTE has nothing to do with God or bibles; it has to do with the fact that some clowns in said RTE thought it would be a good idea to play a mocking song about a 'wee girl from Omagh' shortly after his daughter's tragic death