Pocophone F1 - The new flagship killer?

The Soup Thief

god's toy wrote: »

*Provided you use dark wallpaper, dark modes in phone settings and apps where possible. Otherwise you could end up using more.
Xiaomis default interface has a white background unless you skin it.

All very true, though fwiw, I leave the house with my F1 fully charged and it's still above 50% at bedtime, despite a fair bit of use, so 3400mah in the m8 would probably do most users. I like amoled screens, but the F1's screen is really lovely too.

Frankly, it's swings and roundabouts.
Buy either of these lovely lovely phones and you're gonna be very happy (unless you get hit for tax, which might piss on yer chips a little bit!)

By the way, if anyone wants to save a tenner (and earn me a few quid), here's a voucher for purchases over €350
http://www.eglobalcentral.eu/referrals.php?code=1h58NWxe5&utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=referral_invite

witnessmenow

Hey all,

Where is the best place to pick this up at the moment?

I see someone mention earlier its sub E300 on Eglobal, but it looks like its E320 at the moment.

There is a couple on gearbest, one seems to be a pre-sale. Neither seem to have the option of that Irish shipping that is customs free (not sure though, I've never used it)

god's toy

witnessmenow wrote: »

Hey all,

Where is the best place to pick this up at the moment?

I see someone mention earlier its sub E300 on Eglobal, but it looks like its E320 at the moment.

There is a couple on gearbest, one seems to be a pre-sale. Neither seem to have the option of that Irish shipping that is customs free (not sure though, I've never used it)

Right now the 6/64 stats at 284.99 on Eglobal ,IMO best place to get it as no import fees

The Soup Thief

god's toy wrote: »

Right now the 6/64 stats at 284.99 on Eglobal ,IMO best place to get it as no import fees

You're right as well, https://www.eglobalcentral.eu/xiaomi-pocophone-f1-6gb-64gb-dual-sim-mobile.html#/product/26352
That's the cheapest I've seen it on there

Use this code and there's another €6 off for you
JUSTA599
Btw, their insured delivery doesn't actually offer you any security beyond their regular delivery

Damoedge

Guys is there an instant way to unlock the bootloader or do we have to wait the 72 hours?

The Soup Thief

Damoedge wrote: »

Guys is there an instant way to unlock the bootloader or do we have to wait the 72 hours?

Yeah, you have to wait.
Fastboot unlock won't do it - you have to use an online tool. Very straightforward, but it does mean you have to wait 3 days after first registering the device with Mi servers through the tool. Minor PITA

witnessmenow

Thanks for the replies, the 64gb didnt show up when I searched yesterday for some reason. Should have bought yesterday! It's E300 today, E294 with the code.

Oh well. Purchased. Thanks for the tip about the insurance too

Really looking forward to it, have been holding off buying a new phone for a while!

alec76

The Soup Thief wrote: »

Btw, their insured delivery doesn't actually offer you any security beyond their regular delivery

What do u mean ? You are saying , they won't pay you at all if goods are lost , no matter if they insured or not?
They definitely won't pay you if it is not insured .

Damoedge

The Soup Thief wrote: »

Yeah, you have to wait.
Fastboot unlock won't do it - you have to use an online tool. Very straightforward, but it does mean you have to wait 3 days after first registering the device with Mi servers through the tool. Minor PITA

This option on xda claims to be instant unlock of bootloader...can anyone confirm this?


Option 2
Mi Flashtool Run as Administrator the Mi Flashtool
Extract and RUN .exe file and sign in your Mi account
Sign in your Mi account in your Pocophone F1 (Go to Settings >Mi Unlock Status >Add Account & Device and make sure you’re logged In.)
Go to fastboot mode by pressing and holding Volume down + Power Button at the same time and connect to PC.
Click the Unlock Button and DON'T PANIC let the process begin and wait until finish.
Go to fastboot type fastboot oem device-info. Check if Unlocked or Locked.


I tried it but it came up saying to wait 72 hours....unless I'm doing something wrong?

Thanks all...

witnessmenow

alec76 wrote: »

What do u mean ? You are saying , they won't pay you at all if goods are lost , no matter if they insured or not?
They definitely won't pay you if it is not insured .

I'm going to paypal to get my money back if it doesn't show up!

Do-more

The price of the Poco F1 has been dropping on Amazon DE IT & ES.
Here in Sweden various bricks and mortar and Internet sellers have started to show stock of the 64GB EU version in the last day or two so it looks like decent stock is finally becoming available in Europe.

The Soup Thief

alec76 wrote: »

What do u mean ? You are saying , they won't pay you at all if goods are lost , no matter if they insured or not?
They definitely won't pay you if it is not insured .

No, that's not what I'm saying.
Read the t's & c's
If you don't buy insured insured delivery and it arrives damaged in the post you have a day or two to inform them and they will replace it. If you buy insurance you have a few days more (I forget the exact period but you can look it up as easily as I could).

Their insured delivery covers damage in the post. Not loss. Delivery is traced either way

Whether or not you pay for insured delivery, if it arrives and you don't like it it doesn't work you've a month to switch it, but you pay the postage

So it doesn't make much difference whether you pay for insured delivery or not

The Soup Thief

witnessmenow wrote: »

I'm going to paypal to get my money back if it doesn't show up!

That's what I did too. Can't be too careful, though there shouldn't be any issue if things don't arrive - as I say, delivery is tracked either way. Their small print ain't that small!

The Soup Thief

Damoedge wrote: »

This option on xda claims to be instant unlock of bootloader...can anyone confirm this?


Option 2
Mi Flashtool Run as Administrator the Mi Flashtool
Extract and RUN .exe file and sign in your Mi account
Sign in your Mi account in your Pocophone F1 (Go to Settings >Mi Unlock Status >Add Account & Device and make sure you’re logged In.)
Go to fastboot mode by pressing and holding Volume down + Power Button at the same time and connect to PC.
Click the Unlock Button and DON'T PANIC let the process begin and wait until finish.
Go to fastboot type fastboot oem device-info. Check if Unlocked or Locked.


I tried it but it came up saying to wait 72 hours....unless I'm doing something wrong?

Thanks all...

No, you're doing it right. It's instant provided the Mi servers will permit the unlock.
Both methods rely on connecting to Mi servers to get the unlock code.
That's the only way to get into Xiaomi bootloaders. Not ideal, but a hell of a lot better than Huawei, Samsung et al are offering these days!

Damoedge

The Soup Thief wrote: »

No, you're doing it right. It's instant provided the Mi servers will permit the unlock.
Both methods rely on connecting to Mi servers to get the unlock code.
That's the only way to get into Xiaomi bootloaders. Not ideal, but a hell of a lot better than Huawei, Samsung et al are offering these days!

I have a brand new Huawei Honor V10...it's only a month old...and because of their new policy that I didn't know about when buying it I can not unlock it now!...that's why I bought the Poco...But the V10 is a beauty...sure I'll just have to sell it now...spilt milk in all...lol

alec76

The Soup Thief wrote: »

No, that's not what I'm saying.
Read the t's & c's
I

I did , I am pretty sure you are wrong there.
https://www.eglobalcentral.eu/shipping-and-insurance-eu.html
You'll get very little if they lost item in transit.

courier companies only cover physical loss or damage of goods during transit* subject to the maximum liability specified in the terms and conditions of their service

€50-100 for parcel , that is standard for courier liability.
If you buying €350-400 phone ,will you be happy with €50 refund ?

Eglobal is great company to deal with , until something went wrong.
I would buy insurance. There is a Paypal route of course , but I rather spend €3 more and not wait few months for PayPal response.

The Soup Thief

alec76 wrote: »

I did , I am pretty sure you are wrong there.
https://www.eglobalcentral.eu/shipping-and-insurance-eu.html
You'll get very little if they lost item in transit.

€50-100 for parcel , that is standard for courier liability.
If you buying €350-400 phone ,will you be happy with €50 refund ?

Eglobal is great company to deal with , until something went wrong.
I would buy insurance. There is a Paypal route of course , but I rather spend €3 more and not wait few months for PayPal response.

That's the bit where they're upselling their insured delivery. Read on to the bit about their own regular cover. Iirc the insured delivery is €6 more. Not a lot at all but I really didn't see any benefit when I was ordering

alec76

The Soup Thief wrote: »

Read on to the bit about their own regular cover.

Do you mind to quote that bit ?
The way I’ve got it , if your parcel lost or damaged in transit , you have to notify them in 48 hours . With no insurance purchased you’ll get a refund, probably store credit only ( up to

to the maximum liability specified in the terms and conditions of their service

which is approximately €50-100.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057809627

Standard Toaster

Anyone see the armored kevlar edition for sale yet?

god's toy

The Soup Thief wrote: »

That's the bit where they're upselling their insured delivery. Read on to the bit about their own regular cover. Iirc the insured delivery is €6 more. Not a lot at all but I really didn't see any benefit when I was ordering

I just goggled for an offer code and used that to cover the insurance.

witnessmenow

PayPal are extremely buyer biased when it comes to disputes, regardless of anyone's terms and conditions if you go to PayPal and complain you are more than likely going to get sorted. It is only €6 though, but as a shop I would be licking my lips at all the extra €6s I was getting for pretty much nothing 😀

corks finest

witnessmenow wrote: »

PayPal are extremely buyer biased when it comes to disputes, regardless of anyone's terms and conditions if you go to PayPal and complain you are more than likely going to get sorted. It is only €6 though, but as a shop I would be licking my lips at all the extra €6s I was getting for pretty much nothing 😀

Found pp fab on 3 occasions,bit drawn out yes,but got there eventually

corkie

[XDA] Xiaomi POCO F1 Design, Display, Speed, and Smoothness Review

Damoedge

corkie wrote: »

[XDA] Xiaomi POCO F1 Design, Display, Speed, and Smoothness Review

Read it this morning...it's a good review alright...looks like we have a great phone...all we need now is lineage os on it and we will be laughing...but that's not too far away as one dev got it to boot up with lineage on it and lineage themselves told me that it's coming...Woooooooohooooooooo ....

Damoedge

Lineage on the Poco

corkie

Damoedge wrote: »

Read it this morning...it's a good review alright...looks like we have a great phone...all we need now is lineage os on it and we will be laughing...but that's not too far away as one dev got it to boot up with lineage on it and lineage themselves told me that it's coming...Woooooooohooooooooo ....

Damoedge wrote: »

Lineage on the Poco

Unofficial LOS Based on Oreo!

As development has stopped for Oreo, you will probably waiting awhile for Official PIE based release.

SleetAndSnow

corkie wrote: »

Unofficial LOS Based on Oreo!

As development has stopped for Oreo, you will probably waiting awhile for Official PIE based release.

As an Official lineage dev, I can tell you development for Oreo has not stopped still updates being pushed. Nougat has however, or will be, stopped soon. Two android versions officially at a time.

corkie

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

As an Official lineage dev, I can tell you development for Oreo has not stopped still updates being pushed. Nougat has however, or will be, stopped soon. Two android versions officially at a time.

The XDA threads for WHYRED would probably disagree with you.
Only security patches been applied.

RR (based on LOS) has been given a final official Oreo build.

My Nexus 9 (on it's last legs, hardware failing) will probably be stuck on 23/08 Nougat Build. It is not even getting security patches anymore.

Damoedge

corkie wrote: »

The XDA threads for WHYRED would probably disagree with you.
Only security patches been applied.

RR (based on LOS) has been given a final official Oreo build.

My Nexus 9 (on it's last legs, hardware failing) will probably be stuck on 23/08 Nougat Build. It is not even getting security patches anymore.

Why is everyone going crazy about security patches...it's like some people think they can't use there phone unless they have the most recent up to date blaady bla patch....I mean it wasn't too long ago that these patches didn't even exist and everyone seems to forget about android and viruses...?

Not having a go at you mate at all...it's just everywhere I read in different forums people are banging on about security patches...and then the encryption oh be the lordie...you'd swear that some people had national security documents on there little auld phones...lol lol...
Rant over

Damoedge

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

As an Official lineage dev, I can tell you development for Oreo has not stopped still updates being pushed. Nougat has however, or will be, stopped soon. Two android versions officially at a time.

So when do you think that we will see a release of LOS official or unofficial on xda for this phone?

OldMrBrennan83

Damoedge wrote: »

Why is everyone going crazy about security patches...it's like some people think they can't use there phone unless they have the most recent up to date blaady bla patch....I mean it wasn't too long ago that these patches didn't even exist and everyone seems to forget about android and viruses...?

Not having a go at you mate at all...it's just everywhere I read in different forums people are banging on about security patches...and then the encryption oh be the lordie...you'd swear that some people had national security documents on there little auld phones...lol lol...
Rant over

Some people want security patches
Some people want 2k screens
Some people want dual sim
Some people want Amoled
Some people want LCD
Some people want headphone jacks
Some people want updates
Some people want unlockable bootloaders
Some people want dual front speakers
Some people want 16MP selfie cameras

If not we'd all just be using the same phone and you can rest assured that a lot of people will think what you want from a phone is pointless, the same as they'll think what I want from a phone is pointless.

Patww79

Patww79 wrote: »

Some people want security patches
Some people want 2k screens
Some people want dual sim
Some people want Amoled
Some people want LCD
Some people want headphone jacks
Some people want updates
Some people want unlockable bootloaders
Some people want dual front speakers
Some people want 16MP selfie cameras

If not we'd all just be using the same phone and you can rest assured that a lot of people will think what you want from a phone is pointless, the same as they'll think what I want from a phone is pointless.

Pointless post :pac:

OldMrBrennan83

They all are when you're trying to speak sense to a developer I suppose.

But really, nothing is pointless if enough people deem them important.

Damoedge

Patww79 wrote: »

They all are when you're trying to speak sense to a developer I suppose.

But really, nothing is pointless if enough people deem them important.

Pointless is important to otherwise it wouldn't exist

But yes I get ya and it's true...I just want a simple auld phone that knows what button I'm gonna press next lol lol

bargainboy

Hey the solutionshop.global has this phone ( 6gb+128)for 298.54 any colour all taxes etc paid global software installed my question is what is the difference between global and European software in relation to this phone ?

god's toy

bargainboy wrote: »

Hey the solutionshop.global has this phone ( 6gb+128)for 298.54 any colour all taxes etc paid global software installed my question is what is the difference between global and European software in relation to this phone ?

Does solutionshop.global cover import fees if stopped?

bargainboy

It says so on their site I ordered 2 mi A1 phones from them and had very fast delivery others said they didn't thought some people said they had phones ordered from eglobal stolen Durning delivery the mi a1 thread is here on boards make of it what you will ?they advertise the pocophone F1 with global ROM Amazon advertise European ROM not sure of the difference ?

god's toy

I know one version you had (still have?) to change the phones location to get the Infrared unlock working, maybe the European version sorts that?

SleetAndSnow

corkie wrote: »

The XDA threads for WHYRED would probably disagree with you.
Only security patches been applied.

RR (based on LOS) has been given a final official Oreo build.

My Nexus 9 (on it's last legs, hardware failing) will probably be stuck on 23/08 Nougat Build. It is not even getting security patches anymore.

While RR is based on LOS, they are different people and they do their own thing.

Lineage will be supporting Oreo builds until Q comes out, at which point it will be dropped. While it may only be security patches, its still going to be supported and they will be merged, and bugs will still be fixed if they get found.

There are unofficial builds for Flounder (Nexus 9), but there have been issues with some hardware choices that require 'hacks' to get going, which goes against Lineage's policy, and needs an exception to be allowed to merge them. I don't believe the flounder maintainer has put in any requests.

Just because some individual devices will be dropped, doesn't mean official support for LOS15.1 devices will be dropped. If a new maintainer comes along and wants to maintain and make a device official on 15.1, they can.

For example, we just made chagalllte (Samsung galaxy tab s 10.5 LTE) official on 14.1 (Nougat) since its still an officially supported OS until official Pie builds start

SleetAndSnow

Damoedge wrote: »

So when do you think that we will see a release of LOS official or unofficial on xda for this phone?

At the moment bgcngm has only added support for the device to the 845 trees etc this week, he is a good maintainer however so i'd say soon enough, but nothing has been said as of yet.

marti9t9

bargainboy wrote: »

Hey the solutionshop.global has this phone ( 6gb+128)for 298.54 any colour all taxes etc paid global software installed my question is what is the difference between global and European software in relation to this phone ?

That price is incredible!

Damoedge

marti9t9 wrote: »

That price is incredible!

Did ya get yours yet Marti?

marti9t9

Damoedge wrote: »

Did ya get yours yet Marti?

My WIFE got hers yes. 😕

Bit jealous but I can't complain about my OP3T. It's still awesome.

Yeah looks very nice. Screen is better than I expected. I couldn't see it being much better to be honest. Portrait photos are surprisingly good IMO. Face unlock option doesn't seem to be there on hers either. I've read you need to set region to India. Not doing that. Hopefully they'll update it for Europe because it's a cool feature. She finds her hands a bit too small to reach fingerprint scanner.

Looked at the packaging it arrived in today. They had it marked at a value of $15 but had a sticker with the name of the phone and it's specs! Had they not put that sticker on, it may have slipped through. Who knows.

How's yours working out?

roper1664

Ordered a Pocophone F1 from eglobal EU on 12th September, still waiting on it!
Eglobal tracking:

2018-09-20: Your parcel will arrive shortly at the courier depot.
2018-09-24: We apologise for the delay, we are following up your order to get it delivered to you as soon as possible.

I thought/hoped it would arrive sooner!

Damoedge

marti9t9 wrote: »

My WIFE got hers yes. 😕

Bit jealous but I can't complain about my OP3T. It's still awesome.

Yeah looks very nice. Screen is better than I expected. I couldn't see it being much better to be honest. Portrait photos are surprisingly good IMO. Face unlock option doesn't seem to be there on hers either. I've read you need to set region to India. Not doing that. Hopefully they'll update it for Europe because it's a cool feature. She finds her hands a bit too small to reach fingerprint scanner.

Looked at the packaging it arrived in today. They had it marked at a value of $15 but had a sticker with the name of the phone and it's specs! Had they not put that sticker on, it may have slipped through. Who knows.

How's yours working out?

I got mine Friday but I didn't do much with it only register MI account to unlock the bootloader and I will do that this evening when I get home...I have the Huawei honor v10 that I bought 1 month ago and that is a better looking phone than the poco but I'll use the poco because of root and sell the V10...it's a grand phone tho I'm happy with it so far

corkie

@Damoedge you will be waiting up to 720 hours to unlock your bootloader on Xiaomi's devices. Probably the same for the Poco!

Poco later responded and lowered the wait time to 3 days, but only for the Poco F1.

https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-devices-poco-f1-long-bootloader-wait-times/

Damoedge

corkie wrote: »

@Damoedge you will be waiting up to 720 hours to unlock your bootloader on Xiaomi's devices. Probably the same for the Poco!



https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-devices-poco-f1-long-bootloader-wait-times/

Yes it's defo 72 hours as that's what came up when o tried to unlock is corkie...

god's toy

Oh nice surprise to see it comes with a 3pin charger in the box.

Loving it so far.

marti9t9

god's toy wrote: »

Oh nice surprise to see it comes with a 3pin charger in the box.

Loving it so far.

Lucky. Mine came with 2pin

Standard Toaster

god's toy wrote: »

Oh nice surprise to see it comes with a 3pin charger in the box.

Loving it so far.

Cool. I think I'll just pull the trigger on the Poco vs the Mi 8 Pro.


Where did you order yours from?