Will you go to the ploughing 2018

paddysdream

Joe Daly wrote: »

tanko wrote: »

Fine Gael have announced that the ploughing is on in Carlow next year.

Poor aul Anna Marie McHugh isnt happy that she didnt get to announce this.[/QUOTE



Pat Deering stole the show, where in Carlow oak park no.

No not in Oak park but about 10 miles east on the Wexford road.Word is that the deal is done about a month ago or more .Common knowledge around there as to the exact farmers in or out.Think a few were rather underwhelmed as to the money available.

Pat Deering would have a very very close connection to the actual area by the way although he is from north Carlow

alps

Mf310 wrote: »

Going tomro havent been all week ..... looking for some deals or just best places to buy ... The best waterproofs,
A good pair of work boots (redbacks or the like),
Liners and maybe light claw pieces for clusters (Milkrite is a good brand i heard of?)
LED floodlights for the yard
Lastly a good Headtorch

If any1 has bought please let me know stand name thanksðŸ‘

Kaiwaka raingear from Gregcare stand...best in class

Milkrite vented triangular liners are a marvellous product. The shells should come free with your first purchase. You'll get them at the baumaticgasgoine stand.

paddysdream

L1985 wrote: »

Was there today just home now. We thought it was v quiet TBH guys at the stands weren't too happy and then it just started lashing so all were closing up. Most of the guys I seemed to talk to aren't going to be there tomorrow so it will be interesting to see turn outs! There was a lot of negativity over the fact the stakeholders were told after the public.
One thing thou I find the event v well organised in terms of traffic we had no problems and it all seems to run seamlessly so we were happy with it. And there were plenty of portaloos which was a welcome surprise!!!

There myself as well.Thought the crowd rather small and nowhere near what they announced but perhaps some big exhibitors need a guaranteed footfall.Most tents were empty by 4/4;30 and lots were closing up after 5.Seen a lot of them looking like they were moving out tonight.
Wet miserable evening and doubtful if many likely to travel tomorrow but who knows?

road_high

_Brian wrote: »

Don’t remember it being in Cavan or Leitrim recently.

Because it would be suicide to hold it in those places- you’d never get a dry enough large site suitable. Not in a million years. I’ve experienced land in Leitrim and with any rainfall it’s like walking on wet sponges.

Joe Daly

paddysdream wrote: »

Joe Daly wrote: »

No not in Oak park but about 10 miles east on the Wexford road.Word is that the deal is done about a month ago or more .Common knowledge around there as to the exact farmers in or out.Think a few were rather underwhelmed as to the money available.

Pat Deering would have a very very close connection to the actual area by the way although he is from north Carlow

They were enquiring about getting a big tillage farm north kilkenny cemented road through they were quiet taking a back when they were told no because they would be interrupting the farm programe .

road_high

alps wrote: »

The ploughing will never again move away within a stones throw from Portlaoise...

The scale and logistics of the event now dictates this, and to be honest, for most of the patrons it doesn't matter one iota if it's 3 hours up the M7, the M8 or the M9...It may as well be in the same place every year...

Both Athy and stradbally were my favorites. You could tip over in 40mins from Kilkenny with virtually no stresss or bother. The sites and car parks were massive, level and dry. And the walk very near the sites.
Also was very central for Dublin as it’s become a huge media/political event now

road_high

paddysdream wrote: »

Joe Daly wrote: »

No not in Oak park but about 10 miles east on the Wexford road.Word is that the deal is done about a month ago or more .Common knowledge around there as to the exact farmers in or out.Think a few were rather underwhelmed as to the money available.

Pat Deering would have a very very close connection to the actual area by the way although he is from north Carlow

Heard it a month ago alright. Sounded like a done deal but doesn’t sound like it is just yet...

road_high

White Clover wrote: »

I completely agree. I have attended every year since I was a nipper, the last year being '16 in Tullamore. The site was a big step back in quality compared to Athy over the previous 3 years. The car park across the road in tullamore turned into a mess, pure messing trying to get out. Last year the place flooded. Good and all as the land is there, it's not a patch on Athy or wexford. The only problem with wexford is access. After '16 in Tullamore, I wasn't going to be there last year or this year.

Spot on. Athy and stradbally there is no comparisons- massive, level dry fields all in square blocks. Screggan site is humpy and hollow by comparison and just doesn’t fit as well.

Burning Tires

paddysdream wrote: »

There myself as well.Thought the crowd rather small and nowhere near what they announced but perhaps some big exhibitors need a guaranteed footfall.Most tents were empty by 4/4;30 and lots were closing up after 5.Seen a lot of them looking like they were moving out tonight.
Wet miserable evening and doubtful if many likely to travel tomorrow but who knows?

The 2 guys i know on stands there started packing up around 4:30 as they (their bosses) were disappointed with the footfall. Everything that would fit in the vans was taken. And out the gap around 5:30.
They reckon that 50,000 was the absolute max amount there, but hard to tell.

road_high

Loves_lorries wrote: »

Always find both mother and daughter annoying to listen to on radio and tv, that level of cuteness I find irritating, I know the elder Anna is a national treasure but I watched her on gay byrnes programme about god and spirituality etc a few years ago and you knew no more about her after thirty minutes than thirty seconds, all oul meaningless guff, put a healy rae to shame.

Yea she does have plenty of opinions on everyone and everything else. But I know virtually nothing about the woman despite her high profile

road_high

alps wrote: »

The ploughing will never again move away within a stones throw from Portlaoise...

The scale and logistics of the event now dictates this, and to be honest, for most of the patrons it doesn't matter one iota if it's 3 hours up the M7, the M8 or the M9...It may as well be in the same place every year...

I think it’ll have to stay in the Athy- Stradbally-Carlow triangle. Best land, best sites, closer to Dublin, and in the middle of the M7,8,9 and 11. Plus railway lines

road_high

Dickie10 wrote: »

could there actually be anywhere in cavan or lietrim capable of holding it? ballinabrackey is the most southerly point in meath as well right on the offaly border. it is vary strange it hasnt been in meath ,louth or north dublin more often huge tillage areas

The land quality wouldn’t be in Cavan or Leitrim. The car parks just wouldn’t work in weather like today. It’s realistically ever going to be in a handful of counties now namely Kildare, Laois, Carlow, Kilkenny and Wexford going forward. There’s a lot of variable to consider as well as hotel facilities and rosd access

patsy_mccabe

They should hold it on the burren, in north Clare. Plenty of dry ground.
Damn the ecology.

road_high

Anna Marie McHugh is in a woeful huff over Pat Deering TD Carlow/Kilkenny announcing next years venue before the NPA. Wouldn't be surprised if they pulled it out of spite!

Buford T. Justice XIX

_Brian wrote: »

Yep, they’re collecting plenty of money and banks would surely see the repayment potential.

Sadly I feel there are too many breastfeeding of the income to be bothered.

It’s tome to step things up a notch and provide the facilities punters deserve. They could have permanent toilets. I think they need fresh blood with a bigger drive than a woman with all her best years behind her.

Anna Marie won't like that!

Stationmaster

Anyone there yet this morning? Is there many tents around open?!

alps

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Anna Marie won't like that!

It'll happen to all of us..maybe has...

I was really enthralled with the level of effort imagination and money that was put into stands this year. The level of professionalism by exhibitors was astounding.

I expect that exhibitors and visitors alike will begin to look for something more comfortable, more consistent, more trustworthy, for what is now a world class exhibit.

That'll be Anna Marie's next challenge, if she's up for it..

farmersfriend

Stationmaster wrote: »

Anyone there yet this morning? Is there many tents around open?!

on the way

wrangler

alps wrote: »

It'll happen to all of us..maybe has...

I was really enthralled with the level of effort imagination and money that was put into stands this year. The level of professionalism by exhibitors was astounding.

I expect that exhibitors and visitors alike will begin to look for something more comfortable, more consistent, more trustworthy, for what is now a world class exhibit.

That'll be Anna Marie's next challenge, if she's up for it..

The management has proved itself over the years, hopefully this year is a freak but exhibitors will have to put up better quality stands......not use something that turns into a missile in bad weather.
Apparently the Simmenthal stand was perfect until the Blackwater stand hit it.

whelan2

wrangler wrote: »

The management has proved itself over the years, hopefully this year is a freak but exhibitors will have to put up better quality stands......not use something that turns into a missile in bad weather.
Apparently the Simmenthal stand was perfect until the Blackwater stand hit it.

I'm no fan of the mc hughs but year in year out they put on a great show. Fair play to them

wrangler

whelan2 wrote: »

I'm no fan of the mc hughs but year in year out they put on a great show. Fair play to them

Same here, after all those years they're now being condemned on one bad year ...like wtf

whelan2

wrangler wrote: »

Same here, after all those years they're now being condemned on one bad year ...like wtf

No one can plan the weather unfortunately

Say my name

wrangler wrote: »

The management has proved itself over the years, hopefully this year is a freak but exhibitors will have to put up better quality stands......not use something that turns into a missile in bad weather.
Apparently the Simmenthal stand was perfect until the Blackwater stand hit it.

Those shopping arcade tents are owned by the Npa though I think?
Well maybe not directly but a sub company set up to hire them out to the Ploughing, like the company hiring out the tracks.

grassroot1

wrangler wrote:

The management has proved itself over the years, hopefully this year is a freak but exhibitors will have to put up better quality stands......not use something that turns into a missile in bad weather. Apparently the Simmenthal stand was perfect until the Blackwater stand hit it.

You test management on bad days not good ones
The Blackwater marquee hit the Simmental stand and that was the NPA's baby
I think the management have proven themselves that they can organise a huge event but they may have forgotten exhibitors and visitors make it a success

Bass Reeves

grassroot1 wrote: »

You test management on bad days not good ones
The Blackwater marquee hit the Simmental stand and that was the NPA's baby
I think the management have proven themselves that they can organise a huge event but they may have forgotten exhibitors and visitors make it a success

Very good point. Yes nobody could predict the weather and the NPA was dammed if they did and dammed if they did not cancel Wednesday. But come Wednesday 10-11pm they failed to cancel early enough.IMO and I do not know how it is going but Friday opening is not a bright idea.

Some lads on here are delussional. They could not see the issue that Friday opening created for stall holders and exhibitors. There was one comment that because they opened Friday it would prevent exhibitors and prebookings from claiming a refund for failing to open Wednesday. If this is the case again it is ill taught out. Exhibitors and punters have suffered losses theya re repeat customers you need to keep them on board. If it is painful for one year so what if you ahve the reserves to cover it. Goodwill counts for everything in a game like this.

The huff over the FG TD announcing the venue for next year. What idiot told him. Politicians always want to be first with the good news. He must have taught all his Christmas's came togeather.

wrangler

Say my name wrote: »

Those shopping arcade tents are owned by the Npa though I think?
Well maybe not directly but a sub company set up to hire them out to the Ploughing, like the company hiring out the tracks.

I didn't think it'd be any different than the sheep tent, which was organised by the NSBA and everyone took a square of it. I don't know any way, it'd be a huge undertaking if the commitee were responsible for every arcade...a logistical nightmare

fergus1001

very low numbers here today id say 20-30 thousand tops

Say my name

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Very good point. Yes nobody could predict the weather and the NPA was dammed if they did and dammed if they did not cancel Wednesday. But come Wednesday 10-11pm they failed to cancel early enough.IMO and I do not know how it is going but Friday opening is not a bright idea.

Some lads on here are delussional. They could not see the issue that Friday opening created for stall holders and exhibitors. There was one comment that because they opened Friday it would prevent exhibitors and prebookings from claiming a refund for failing to open Wednesday. If this is the case again it is ill taught out. Exhibitors and punters have suffered losses theya re repeat customers you need to keep them on board. If it is painful for one year so what if you ahve the reserves to cover it. Goodwill counts for everything in a game like this.

The huff over the FG TD announcing the venue for next year. What idiot told him. Politicians always want to be first with the good news. He must have taught all his Christmas's came togeather.

It was on the front page of the carlow nationalist last week I believe and all over social media before and after that.
Anna Marie is a bit old fashioned if she thinks secrets can be kept nowadays.
The Pat Deering spat was a poor attempt of deflection about this week.

newholland mad

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Very good point. Yes nobody could predict the weather and the NPA was dammed if they did and dammed if they did not cancel Wednesday. But come Wednesday 10-11pm they failed to cancel early enough.IMO and I do not know how it is going but Friday opening is not a bright idea.

Some lads on here are delussional. They could not see the issue that Friday opening created for stall holders and exhibitors. There was one comment that because they opened Friday it would prevent exhibitors and prebookings from claiming a refund for failing to open Wednesday. If this is the case again it is ill taught out. Exhibitors and punters have suffered losses theya re repeat customers you need to keep them on board. If it is painful for one year so what if you ahve the reserves to cover it. Goodwill counts for everything in a game like this.

The huff over the FG TD announcing the venue for next year. What idiot told him. Politicians always want to be first with the good news. He must have taught all his Christmas's came togeather.

Nobody needed to tell him. His inlaws live about 2 miles from the site and 200 ac of tillage land that hasnt been in grass in over 100 years has been sown down about 3 weeks ago

Box09

fergus1001 wrote:

very low numbers here today id say 20-30 thousand tops

But they'll round it up to 60k!

Bass Reeves

wrangler wrote: »

I didn't think it'd be any different than the sheep tent, which was organised by the NSBA and everyone took a square of it. I don't know any way, it'd be a huge undertaking if the commitee were responsible for every arcade...a logistical nightmare

Not really. A logisttical nightmare would be allowing everybody to turn up with there own tent/marquee. Lads trying to put up tents between other tents, tents larger than specified. Ant tents/marquees put up in rows to a standard spect would have to be speced and srrected by the one company.

paddysdream

newholland mad wrote: »

Nobody needed to tell him. His inlaws live about 2 miles from the site and 200 ac of tillage land that hasnt been in grass in over 100 years has been sown down about 3 weeks ago

Everyone and his mother knows exactly which farms are or are not included in the area plus a couple of "public" meetings held locally.

Pat's in laws a bit closer than two miles to be fair.

tanko

Box09 wrote: »

But they'll round it up to 60k!

I was at it on Tuesday and i cant see how there was 95K there, it was a lot easier to move around than the Tuesday last year even in the middle of the day.

Loves_lorries

Could understand the mc hughs being annoyed about some politician running off at the mouth.

If you can't trust a vote chasing TD, who can you trust.

kerryjack

What about the phoneix park as a venue we could take back the city for the week plenty of infrastructure big empty white house in the middle of it turn it in to head quarters loads of hotels bar's and strip joints all you need is your pockets full of cash.

wrangler

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Not really. A logisttical nightmare would be allowing everybody to turn up with there own tent/marquee. Lads trying to put up tents between other tents, tents larger than specified. Ant tents/marquees put up in rows to a standard spect would have to be speced and srrected by the one company.

https://www.localenterprise.ie/Fingal/News/Latest-News/Call-for-applications-to-exhibit-at-the-National-Ploughing-Championships-2018.html

There's another crowd organising and hosting a collection of exhibitiors similar to NSBA, Much more practical than NPA organising it.
Looks good value, I know someone that sells icegream in one of those tents and she'd sell enough in the first hour to pay for the week, she's there every year

K.G.

_Brian wrote: »

Yep, they’re collecting plenty of money and banks would surely see the repayment potential.

Sadly I feel there are too many breastfeeding of the income to be bothered.

It’s tome to step things up a notch and provide the facilities punters deserve. They could have permanent toilets. I think they need fresh blood with a bigger drive than a woman with all her best years behind her.

Whatever about the descision this week good luck to you finding someone with more drive than her.the steel thats in her dont come around too often

_Brian

K.G. wrote: »

Whatever about the descision this week good luck to you finding someone with more drive than her.the steel thats in her dont come around too often

Nostalgia shouldn’t be allowed hold tie thing back.
It’s angreat event but far from perfect.

A permanent site would allow much more Decelopment for the event plus additional revenue streams throughout the year.

ganmo

kerryjack wrote: »

What about the phoneix park as a venue we could take back the city for the week plenty of infrastructure big empty white house in the middle of it turn it in to head quarters loads of hotels bar's and strip joints all you need is your pockets full of cash.

the strip joints are the other side of the city

wrangler

_Brian wrote: »

Nostalgia shouldn’t be allowed hold tie thing back.
It’s angreat event but far from perfect.

A permanent site would allow much more Decelopment for the event plus additional revenue streams throughout the year.

Probably needs the most of a thousand acres to hold it now, i don;t think they have a huge reserve yet to consider putting a billion into a site. It benefits local clubs the way it is and moving around the country shares it around.
A great festival for farmers, they don't treat the exhibitors great but then neither does tullamore show and they get away with it

ganmo

wrangler wrote: »

Probably needs the most of a thousand acres to hold it now, i don;t think they have a huge reserve yet to consider putting a billion into a site. It benefits local clubs the way it is and moving around the country shares it around.
A great festival for farmers, they don't treat the exhibitors great but then neither does tullamore show and they get away with it

theres a decent jump in cost between the tullamore show and the ploughing though

alps

Is there any " min till" competition at the ploughing?

Say my name

alps wrote: »

Is there any " min till" competition at the ploughing?

I think that's in the car parks.




Vraderstad were doing their own demonstration days in the spring if that's any use to you.

GrasstoMilk

Numbers well down here today, given all the talk going on here I don't see many stands shut up. RTÉ and I'd say about 4/5 other stands. Grand day I thought and easy to get around

goat2

_Brian wrote: »

Nostalgia shouldn’t be allowed hold tie thing back.
It’s angreat event but far from perfect.

A permanent site would allow much more Decelopment for the event plus additional revenue streams throughout the year.

I fully agree with you there, they have it beautifully fine tuned, no waiting to park everything moving, and the walkways are absolutely great, I was there yesterday, numbers way down, could get food anywhere any time, great entertainment all the way, but nothing new eg, no new stands with new inventions which is one of the things I love to see, that gets a bit tired ,

farmersfriend

great day, no delay on way in or out! 99% of stands open lots of room to get around. you'll never please everyone no matter what u do but I thoroughly enjoyed the day,

road_high

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Numbers well down here today, given all the talk going on here I don't see many stands shut up. RTÉ and I'd say about 4/5 other stands. Grand day I thought and easy to get around

Once rain cleared I’d say today was probably the best day. Cold day though

GrasstoMilk

Felt more like 40k today but who am I to say

Box09

GrasstoMilk wrote:

Felt more like 40k today but who am I to say

240 000 over 3 days, highly exaggerated figures

Sacrolyte

Will they exaggerate them for the tax man?