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Traumatising experience

  • 27-08-2018 11:18pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭


    Was browsing randomly on liveleak and came across a video called
    "Cameroon soldiers execute women and children"

    Mod: Title above is exactly what it says on the tin. Read at your discretion:
    Ok I thought, I think many of them are staged and I've been numbed already with all the death and suffering in the news. The video is short but you can see 2 scum with ak's leading two women away to be shot. One woman is holding her little girl by the hand while the other one has her maybe 2 year old boy strapped on her back. The man hits her in the face while leading her. Once at the place they make them kneel down and one of them puts the little girls shirt over her head while the other woman is lying down on her side. Then the subhumans unleash a volley of bullets at the children and the women and you can see the blood coming out after about 10 seconds. I think I've been desensitised already by all the reports and isis beheadings but I've never felt my heart sink so deep. I was absolutely enraged and would tear apart the scum who did this.
    As the song goes and I tell to myself, what a wonderful world.
    I think I've been traumatised by this and I have the images of the little boy stuck in my head and can't get them out. I hope this passes in a few days but I know that I hate this world.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I have no sympathy at all. You went looking for a cheap thrill sensation and you got one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭verycool


    Wait til you hear the one about two girls really liking chocolate ice cream!

    Or Cannibal Holocaust.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    I have no sympathy at all. You went looking for a cheap thrill sensation and you got one.

    True, it's like a trainwreck, you know it's bad but you can't look away. You can keep your ignorance and live in your own bubble not knowing what's happening in the world. If everyone has seen such videos then I am sure more would be done. But keeping living your delusional life.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    verycool wrote: »
    Wait til you hear the one about two girls really liking chocolate ice cream!

    Or Cannibal Holocaust.

    Cannibal holocaust is a fake movie. This is reality footage taken on a phone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭verycool


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    Cannibal holocaust is a fake movie. This is reality footage taken on a phone.


    Mentally blocked out the bit where yer man rips the shell off the turtle and chops its head? That was real.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibal_Holocaust#Animal_cruelty


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    verycool wrote: »
    Mentally blocked out the bit where yer man rips the shell off the turtle and chops its head? That was real.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibal_Holocaust#Animal_cruelty

    You eat meat don't you? I guess it's fine to slit cows throat but if the head gets chopped of a turtle, **** this, execute this man immediately. Hypocrisy at its finest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭verycool


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    You eat meat don't you? I guess it's fine to slit cows throat but if the head gets chopped of a turtle, **** this, execute this man immediately. Hypocrisy at its finest.


    Exactly! Now you're getting it.


    *slow claps*


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    verycool wrote: »
    Exactly! Now you're getting it.


    *slow claps*

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,512 ✭✭✭Wheety


    If you want more to know about it, post it on your Facebook and get a campaign going.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    The 'Man gets hit by a train' thread on here really messed with my brain...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭verycool


    Wheety wrote: »
    If you want more to know about it, post it on your Facebook and get a campaign going.


    #KONY2012!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    Wheety wrote: »
    If you want more to know about it, post it on your Facebook and get a campaign going.

    Why do you think I have created this thread? I've already showed it to my friends.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    This sort of real life torture/murder porn has been around for years. My advice is not to watch it as you can never go back. The Mexican drug gangs with chainsaws, Russian clampets with hammers. It will kill your soul. We all know how vicious humans can be. You don’t need to go looking for the footage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭verycool


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    Why do you think I have created this thread? I've already showed it to my friends.


    Hey, check out...



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_vulture_and_the_little_girl


    or...


    https://allthatsinteresting.com/saigon-execution



    It's evolution baby!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭magentis


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    You eat meat don't you? I guess it's fine to slit cows throat but if the head gets chopped of a turtle, **** this, execute this man immediately. Hypocrisy at its finest.

    Ah.But nothing in life is as good as a nice steak.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭verycool


    magentis wrote: »
    Ah.But nothing in life is as good as a nice steak.


    Medium rare. Garlic butter. Mmmm...



    "wonderful marbling" :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,395 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    I have no sympathy at all. You went looking for a cheap thrill sensation and you got one.

    And then describes the video in detail in his post. Like we wanted to have that image in our heads. Thanks op


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    verycool wrote: »

    How is this even on a similar level. Death from starvation is not the same as executing children intentionally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    timthumbni wrote: »
    This sort of real life torture/murder porn has been around for years. My advice is not to watch it as you can never go back. The Mexican drug gangs with chainsaws, Russian clampets with hammers. It will kill your soul. We all know how vicious humans can be. You don’t need to go looking for the footage.

    There was a program on BBC recently where they showed the dismembered corpse of a mexican narco dumped in the main square for all to see but it still didn’t convey the true depths of how he got there....for me those things only generate empathy and compassion for the victim but nobody needs to see it and we don’t need to go looking for them because there’s one or two notorious sites with any number of degenerates in the comment sections that should have been taken down by now. Why aren’t they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,085 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    I shouldnt known better to even open this thread. Knew it would be shi#e.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    I shouldnt known better to even open this thread. Knew it would be shi#e.

    Continue to live in your delusion


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Star Bingo wrote: »
    timthumbni wrote: »
    This sort of real life torture/murder porn has been around for years. My advice is not to watch it as you can never go back. The Mexican drug gangs with chainsaws, Russian clampets with hammers. It will kill your soul. We all know how vicious humans can be. You don’t need to go looking for the footage.

    There was a program on BBC recently where they showed the dismembered corpse of a mexican narco dumped in the main square for all to see but it still didn’t convey the true depths of how he got there....for me those things only generate empathy and compassion for the victim but nobody needs to see it and we don’t need to go looking for them because there’s one or two notorious sites with any number of degenerates in the comment sections that should have been taken down by now. Why aren’t they?

    Because on the internet anything goes. That’s why you need to be very careful with your kids on the internet. In my day a porn mag was as rare as gold dust. Nowadays kids on an iPad can bring up porn videos quicker than the bbc site.

    I have a few acquaintances who send videos out of people being tortured/killed from the internet and share it on what’s app etc. They are almost all simpletons.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Because on the internet anything goes. That’s why you need to be very careful with your kids on the internet. In my day a porn mag was as rare as gold dust. Nowadays kids on an iPad can bring up porn videos quicker than the bbc site.

    I have a few acquaintances who send videos out of people being tortured/killed from the internet and share it on what’s app etc. They are almost all simpletons.

    They are simpletons because they watch execution videos. I think you should apply to mensa international high iq society.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    timthumbni wrote: »
    Because on the internet anything goes. That’s why you need to be very careful with your kids on the internet. In my day a porn mag was as rare as gold dust. Nowadays kids on an iPad can bring up porn videos quicker than the bbc site.

    I have a few acquaintances who send videos out of people being tortured/killed from the internet and share it on what’s app etc. They are almost all simpletons.

    They are simpletons because they watch execution videos. I think you should apply to mensa international high iq society.

    Naw, that is simply my experience of those who seem to get off on watching these sort of things. This isn’t new. You aren’t a pioneer. Carry on searching and watching this sort of thing. It will really expand your mind and make you a better person. Real life execution videos are certainly the way to go for you. Carry on...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    They are simpletons because they watch execution videos. I think you should apply to mensa international high iq society.

    But they don’t need to force it on others it’s readily available as it is. WhatsApp should be a happy medium nobody needs banners like that popping up out the blue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,374 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    They are simpletons because they watch execution videos.
    No. They're simpletons because they share them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Blahfool


    "Was browsing randomly on liveleak"

    There's your problem edgelord. Whenever I see that logo in the corner of a vid I nope out of there. Y'know, not being titillated by death and all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    Star Bingo wrote: »
    nobody needs to see it and we don’t need to go looking for them because there’s one or two notorious sites with any number of degenerates in the comment sections that should have been taken down by now. Why aren’t they?

    why should they be? where do you draw the line?

    There should always be some unregulated form of the internet to show the brutal truth of every aspect of society, from Wikileaks and the Panama Papers (which seem to have been swept under the rug), to ISIS execution videos, to massacres and footage from freelance reporters, to... random 'execution' videos, or whatever

    I'm happy to know they are there for me to look at, and I'm happy to know I never will.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    OP: I think I've been traumatized.

    Also OP: People who don't watch this stuff are delusional about real life.



    OP, you honestly sound like a really stupid person. If you think that watching gore makes you understand the world, you don't understand it at all.

    Do you think any of the world's greats go browsing liveleak to get the inside line on society? You just like gore and found one that went too far. You deserve it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭jacksie66


    This post has been deleted.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    OP: I think I've been traumatized.

    Also OP: People who don't watch this stuff are delusional about real life.



    OP, you honestly sound like a really stupid person. If you think that watching gore makes you understand the world, you don't understand it at all.

    Do you think any of the world's greats go browsing liveleak to get the inside line on society? You just like gore and found one that went too far. You deserve it.

    That high IQ. I honestly thing you should apply for mensa international. It will increase your career opportunities tremendously.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    jacksie66 wrote: »
    People have been killing women as children for all of human existence OP. Just the fact that it's recorded and put online doesn't make it worse. That's the world we live in so my advice is to take a spoon of concrete and harden up..

    I'm hardened up, I could watch videos like that all day without feeling a thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,148 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    OP, you honestly sound like a really stupid person. If you think that watching gore makes you understand the world, you don't understand it at all.


    I definitely have learned a lot about humanity by doing so, personally advise against doing so though, as I have experienced trauma from it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    endacl wrote: »
    No. They're simpletons because they share them.

    Because spreading awareness is a bad thing obviously. Let them continue to chop heads instead of let them be executed themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    I'm hardened up

    Is this the bg comment section?!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    why should they be? where do you draw the line?

    There should always be some unregulated form of the internet to show the brutal truth of every aspect of society, from Wikileaks and the Panama Papers (which seem to have been swept under the rug), to ISIS execution videos, to massacres and footage from freelance reporters, to... random 'execution' videos, or whatever

    I'm happy to know they are there for me to look at, and I'm happy to know I never will.

    Right, as a ‘reality news site’ I just feel there’s some impressionable minds out there though that might wanna make headlines and anus guy or self harm girl might be the least of them


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    That high IQ. I honestly thing you should apply for mensa international. It will increase your career opportunities tremendously.

    Are you a 17-year-old? I haven't heard anyone over the age of 20 ever mention Mensa. I think you've brought it up twice in this thread.

    And I don't have to be smart to wonder about your level of intelligence. You sat and got traumatized but are now belittling others for not doing the same.
    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    I definitely have learned a lot about humanity by doing so, personally advise against doing so though, as I have experienced trauma from it

    I've seen my fair share of gore but I find I can learn just as much about humanity from reading about this awful stuff. Far more in fact because why a person smashes someone's head in with a hammer is more important than just seeing it in a long list of liveleak videos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    True, it's like a trainwreck, you know it's bad but you can't look away. You can keep your ignorance and live in your own bubble not knowing what's happening in the world. If everyone has seen such videos then I am sure more would be done. But keeping living your delusional life.
    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    I'm hardened up, I could watch videos like that all day without feeling a thing.

    So, now that your all hardened up, and simultaneously traumatised - what are you going to do about it?

    I assume you're off on the next flight to Cameroon to give these rapscallions a damn good thrashing?

    Or will it be a couple more beheading videos and then back to pornhub?

    People who watch this shít are fúcking arseholes, nothing more, nothing less! You're not learning anything, or educating yourself on the big bad ways of the world, it's just voyeurism at it's most debased.

    Hardened up? You're likely too anxious to leave your house half the time - grow the fúck up and stop watching this shít.


  • Registered Users Posts: 333 ✭✭Cyclepath


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    I'm hardened up, I could watch videos like that all day without feeling a thing.

    This obviously isn't true. There's a concept you should be aware of, called 'vicarious trauma'. Google that and learn something new.

    News reporters and the video editors handling the raw video news feeds suffer the effects and require trauma counselling at times. The effect can also be cumulative - sounds obvious I know, but the more frequently you watch, the worse it gets...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    I have no sympathy at all. You went looking for a cheap thrill sensation and you got one.

    He ain't traumatised ... He's just jealous.
    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057895392/1/#post107618157


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  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Here's a gift for you, OP. https://reddit.com/r/watchpeopledie/ . Since you're all hardened up, it will all mean nothing to you.

    For the rest of us, we can go to https://www.reddit.com/r/People f u c k ingDying/ and enjoy ourselves. We may not learn as much as you, but at least we'll sleep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,148 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    I've seen my fair share of gore but I find I can learn just as much about humanity from reading about this awful stuff. Far more in fact because why a person smashes someone's head in with a hammer is more important than just seeing it in a long list of liveleak videos.

    What if reading is problematic for you?


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    What if reading is problematic for you?

    Then carry on with life. No need to be affecting ourselves negatively for no tangible benefit.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    Are you a 17-year-old? I haven't heard anyone over the age of 20 ever mention Mensa. I think you've brought it up twice in this thread.

    And I don't have to be smart to wonder about your level of intelligence. You sat and got traumatized but are now belittling others for not doing the same.



    I've seen my fair share of gore but I find I can learn just as much about humanity from reading about this awful stuff. Far more in fact because why a person smashes someone's head in with a hammer is more important than just seeing it in a long list of liveleak videos.

    So you've watched the videos and therefore have low iq by your own definition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,148 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Then carry on with life. No need to be affecting ourselves negatively for no tangible benefit.


    Is it possible to carry on while feeling somewhat detached by not knowing what others have learned from reading? You d be surprised how many struggle with reading problems


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    So, now that your all hardened up, and simultaneously traumatised - what are you going to do about it?

    I assume you're off on the next flight to Cameroon to give these rapscallions a damn good thrashing?

    Or will it be a couple more beheading videos and then back to pornhub?

    People who watch this shít are fúcking arseholes, nothing more, nothing less! You're not learning anything, or educating yourself on the big bad ways of the world, it's just voyeurism at it's most debased.

    Hardened up? You're likely too anxious to leave your house half the time - grow the fúck up and stop watching this shít.

    I can leave my house and come meet you, if you wish. Anytime today or tomorrow. We'll see who's anxious.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    Here's a gift for you, OP. https://reddit.com/r/watchpeopledie/ . Since you're all hardened up, it will all mean nothing to you.

    For the rest of us, we can go to https://www.reddit.com/r/People f u c k ingDying/ and enjoy ourselves. We may not learn as much as you, but at least we'll sleep.

    Subscribed already but thanks anyway. Good subredit


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Traumatised because you watched the video, knowing what was on it?
    Or traumatised because you were not aware that things like this happen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Plopsu


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    True, it's like a trainwreck, you know it's bad but you can't look away. You can keep your ignorance and live in your own bubble not knowing what's happening in the world. If everyone has seen such videos then I am sure more would be done. But keeping living your delusional life.

    Most people know that murder happens and that it's wrong without having to watch people being murdered.
    You seem to be trying to justify watching snuff porn (for that's what it is) by making yourself out to be some sort of crusader. Hopefully some self realisation comes your way.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    I'm hardened up, I could watch videos like that all day without feeling a thing.
    That's not such a good sign at all P.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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