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Questions on how to approach raising my tenants rent.

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    #32
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,074 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    I really don't see the problem with being generous to friends, or strangers for that matter.

    From each according to ability, to each according to need.


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    #33
    LotharIngum
    Registered Users Posts: 210 ✭✭LotharIngum


    Being generous to friends or people who have earned it is a good thing.


    When the legislation changes to punish you for that generosity in the past it sort of knocks out any left in you.


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    #34
    K.Flyer
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    Lumen wrote: »
    I really don't see the problem with being generous to friends, or strangers for that matter.

    From each according to ability, to each according to need.

    Thats all well and good, but the o.p. is in financial difficulties while his friend gets a free roof over his head, only its the o.p.'s roof.


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    #35
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,074 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    LotharIngum wrote: »
    Being generous to friends or people who have earned it is a good thing.
    That's a very transactional view of life, where acts of generosity are precisely metered against reciprocal acts.

    But that's not really generosity at all, since generosity requires asymmetry.

    We have codified this into our social contract through welfare and tax redistribution, and informally through charitable giving.

    There's nothing to stop private businesses from being charitable either. As many have posted here before, the small Irish landlord is a paragon of charity compared to the heartless mercenary vulture funds. Bless their souls.


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    #36
    the_syco
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    Lumen wrote: »
    I really don't see the problem with being generous to friends, or strangers for that matter.

    From each according to ability, to each according to need.
    The OP needs cash, and the increase won't affect his mate in any way.
    Bexil wrote: »
    He's also claiming rent Allowance which covers his rent completly but I'm not sure if there is another limit imposed on me by the Rent Allowance like the 4%.
    If you say what county you're in, someone could tell you the limit that you can get from from the government, via your mate.
    Bexil wrote: »
    He's also asked if his girlfriend can move in for 3 months. Would I need to start a new contract with him and her for the duration she stays and then switch back to the old contract when she is gone?
    Do you have a contract with the mate? You may have given him rights that he shouldn't have. Regardless, once she's in, do you really think you'll be able to get her out again without evicting them both? Does she work? Will you have enough room when the kid pops out?


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    The_Conductor
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    the_syco wrote: »
    The OP needs cash, and the increase won't affect his mate in any way.


    If you say what county you're in, someone could tell you the limit that you can get from from the government, via your mate.


    Do you have a contract with the mate? You may have given him rights that he shouldn't have. Regardless, once she's in, do you really think you'll be able to get her out again without evicting them both? Does she work? Will you have enough room when the kid pops out?

    See post 15- its Dunlaoghaire Rathdown......... I put up the limits there.


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    #38
    utmbuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 471 ✭✭utmbuilder


    the housing crisis is very real I have witnessed a very small amount of lady's in the "know" who are in hotels yet living at home

    to jump the housing lists


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    #39
    LotharIngum
    Registered Users Posts: 210 ✭✭LotharIngum


    utmbuilder wrote: »
    the housing crisis is very real I have witnessed a very small amount of lady's in the "know" who are in hotels yet living at home

    to jump the housing lists


    I know one who rents out the hotel room to her relatives to come over and stay for the weekends while she and her kids stay in her mothers council house. And brags about it. And no, I wont report her because I would be found face down in the river tomorrow.


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    #40
    power pants
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    LotharIngum wrote: »
    I know one who rents out the hotel room to her relatives to come over and stay for the weekends while she and her kids stay in her mothers council house. And brags about it. And no, I wont report her because I would be found face down in the river tomorrow.


    They are “entitled “ whilst I’m at it when did they all start using this “forever home” phrase?

    Surely can’t be hard for the authorities to weed out the people who are playing the system

    I very much doubt the authorities ask for letters from these people to prove their landlord actually did sell etc

    They (council)seem to know who to chase and who to leave well alone


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    #41
    handlemaster
    Registered Users Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    utmbuilder wrote: »
    the housing crisis is very real I have witnessed a very small amount of lady's in the "know" who are in hotels yet living at home

    to jump the housing lists

    those who know and dont say are complicite


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    #42
    lisasimpson
    Registered Users Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    Sit him down and explain the situation in a clear fashion.Get him paying a portion of the bills to start with. No where else wouldhe get such a deal. If he doesnt like it tell him he will have to look elsewhere... hes totally taking the piss


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    #43
    The_Conductor
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    lisasimpson wrote: »
    Sit him down and explain the situation in a clear fashion.Get him paying a portion of the bills to start with. No where else wouldhe get such a deal. If he doesnt like it tell him he will have to look elsewhere... hes totally taking the piss

    And then there is the suggestion that he wants to move his girlfriend in too..........

    OP- honestly- in my eyes there is no sitting down and holding a conference with him- it is plain and simple- he has abused the situation- and is out. You are entitled to 14k per annum tax free under the rent-a-room scheme. You are in financial difficulty. 14k tax free is a considerable sum- which could change your life and make things a lot less stressful. HAP etc- is just stress and paperwork- and your so called friend couldn't even have been arsed to investigate what his entitlements are- to try and alleviate the stress he was putting you under.

    If he moves his girlfriend in- you may as well just move out- its not your home anymore- you're a gooseberry.

    I'm sure you had the very best of intentions when you thought you'd help out your mate- well, your generosity has been abused- and you're now in financial difficulty yourself- and instead of trying to see how he could alleviate the situation- he is instead suggesting adding his partner to the mix...........

    The term 'soft-touch' comes to mind- he sees you as the ultimate soft-touch. If you weren't in such dire financial straits yourself- and generous in nature- it would be one thing- its not though- you are being taken for a fool.........

    And for crying out loud- stop referring to yourself as a landlord- you're 100% most certainly and definitely *not* one.


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