Apple Special Event - September 12th

Eire Go Brach

I put the XS plus at €1290 at the least. Possibly higher. The 8plus is €110 more than the 8

When have Apple lowered there pricing. I was hoping last year was the year they would get stung. Looks like it did not happen.
I myself was shocked at the price of the X and before before the keynote I was getting it. But just could not justify the price when I heard it. Went for the 8plus.

Oh how Apple have normalised €1000 plus phones. Eyeing up the XS plus now. Only because I’m selling my 8 Plus.

eeloe

Gael23 wrote: »

I’m in the market to upgrade my 6s when my contract ends in a few weeks. Was looking at the 8 but should that plan change with the new launch?

The 8 will end up being cheaper after the launch alright. The shops will have stock they’ll need to get rid of.

Johnmb

eeloe wrote: »

The 8 will end up being cheaper after the launch alright. The shops will have stock they’ll need to get rid of.

Also, given the price points that are now being quoted, I'd expect the 8 to be kept on as the mid-range offering. The new 6.1" LCD phone won't be that phone at the price points currently being bandied about!

DubDJ

Johnmb wrote: »

Also, given the price points that are now being quoted, I'd expect the 8 to be kept on as the mid-range offering. The new 6.1" LCD phone won't be that phone at the price points currently being bandied about!

The 6.1” LCD iPhone (now rumoured to be the iPhone XC) is supposed to be replacing the 8 at the same price, with the Xs dropping by around €100. But others have said it’s actually going to be more expensive than the iPhone 8, so it’s hard to tell until Wednesday.

I recon they’ll keep the 8 and 8 plus at €100 discount. Then the three new iPhones. It’s really difficult to tell with Apple now though, prices seem to just going up and up every year.

murpho999

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

I put the XS plus at €1290 at the least. Possibly higher. The 8plus is €110 more than the 8

When have Apple lowered there pricing. I was hoping last year was the year they would get stung. Looks like it did not happen.
I myself was shocked at the price of the X and before before the keynote I was getting it. But just could not justify the price when I heard it. Went for the 8plus.

Oh how Apple have normalised €1000 plus phones. Eyeing up the XS plus now. Only because I’m selling my 8 Plus.

This is not the expectation this year.
Predictions are that the new plus model will be the same price as last year’s X whilst the new version of the X will be the same price as the iPhone 8.

So in effect it’s a price drop.

DubDJ

murpho999 wrote: »

This is not the expectation this year.
Predictions are that the new plus model will be the same price as last year’s X whilst the new version of the X will be the same price as the iPhone 8.

So in effect it’s a price drop.

Haven’t seen any rumours of this so far, all I’ve seen is that the new Xs might get a €100 price drop, with the plus/max version will take the original X price of $1000 or €1179 for Ireland.

Maybe your getting mixed up with the cheaper LCD version that’s supposed to be taking the iPhone 8’s price point.

Gael23

So €100 drop on the 8 and 8 plus?

DubDJ

Gael23 wrote: »

So €100 drop on the 8 and 8 plus?

That’s what Apple have done historically, but with the three new iPhones this year there aren’t any guarantees. It’s likely though, still some people who won’t like the new design so keeping the 8 on sale would appeal to those.

Creamy Goodness

DubDJ wrote: »

That’s what Apple have done historically, but with the three new iPhones this year there aren’t any guarantees. It’s likely though, still some people who won’t like the new design so keeping the 8 on sale would appeal to those.

The 5s year is a prime example of this, the 5 went away and was replaced by the 5c which everyone - including me - would have been a cheap(er) phone.

This year I believe they'll keep the 8 around though, they've been making that style of phone for the 4 years now, it must be super profitable considering all the tooling/machining would be running at peak efficiency. It's also no slouch of a phone, it's got wireless charging, great camera and pretty nice battery life.

Eire Go Brach

murpho999 wrote: »

This is not the expectation this year.
Predictions are that the new plus model will be the same price as last year’s X whilst the new version of the X will be the same price as the iPhone 8.

So in effect it’s a price drop.

There seems to be 2 different rumours floating around in terms of price. The Xs plus maybe just a bigger Xs as well. As in no hardware improvements. Excluding battery. That may have an impact on the price as well.

murpho999

DubDJ wrote: »

Haven’t seen any rumours of this so far, all I’ve seen is that the new Xs might get a €100 price drop, with the plus/max version will take the original X price of $1000 or €1179 for Ireland.

Maybe your getting mixed up with the cheaper LCD version that’s supposed to be taking the iPhone 8’s price point.

There have been plenty of rumours about the prices such as below:

The iPhone X was positioned by Apple as a premium iPhone with a premium price - starting at £999/$999, while the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus were priced at £699/$699 and £799/$799. Will the 2018 models follow suit?

Respected analyst Ming-Chi Kuo's first research note since departing KGI Securities in April suggested that Apple will be offering a "more aggressive" pricing strategy this year.

He believes that Apple is concerned about "the negative impact of a higher price," but also that it has an improved cost structure thanks to assembly yield improvements. He suggests the following prices:

5.8in "iPhone X" will be $800-$900 (down from $999).
6.5in "iPhone X Plus" will cost $900-$1,000.
6.1in LCD model will be $600-$700.

Article link

Also in the video below at around 9 minutes he talks about prices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVejPMJY2LM

DubDJ

murpho999 wrote: »

There have been plenty of rumours about the prices such as below:

The iPhone X was positioned by Apple as a premium iPhone with a premium price - starting at £999/$999, while the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus were priced at £699/$699 and £799/$799. Will the 2018 models follow suit?

Respected analyst Ming-Chi Kuo's first research note since departing KGI Securities in April suggested that Apple will be offering a "more aggressive" pricing strategy this year.

He believes that Apple is concerned about "the negative impact of a higher price," but also that it has an improved cost structure thanks to assembly yield improvements. He suggests the following prices:

5.8in "iPhone X" will be $800-$900 (down from $999).
6.5in "iPhone X Plus" will cost $900-$1,000.
6.1in LCD model will be $600-$700.

Article link

Also in the video below at around 9 minutes he talks about prices.

The article suggests what I said earlier though, that the LCD model will be positioned to replace the 8 in that price slot. Although they said a $100-$200 price drop of the XS its more likely going to be closer to $100.

I personally think the lineup will go like this:
iPhone 8 - $599
iPhone 8 Plus - $699
iPhone Xc- $799
iPhone Xs - $899
iPhone Xs Max - $999

Oafley Jones

DubDJ wrote: »

The article suggests what I said earlier though, that the LCD model will be positioned to replace the 8 in that price slot. Although they said a $100-$200 price drop of the XS its more likely going to be closer to $100.

I personally think the lineup will go like this:
iPhone 8 - $599
iPhone 8 Plus - $699
iPhone Xc- $799
iPhone Xs - $899
iPhone Xs Max - $999

My fear in regards to price drops is that Apple may try and offset the costs of Trump's tariffs throughout the world. CEX showing almost 800 euro for my X. Tempted, but do I really need to change it when the phone is great.

Eire Go Brach

DubDJ wrote: »

The article suggests what I said earlier though, that the LCD model will be positioned to replace the 8 in that price slot. Although they said a $100-$200 price drop of the XS its more likely going to be closer to $100.

I personally think the lineup will go like this:
iPhone 8 - $599
iPhone 8 Plus - $699
iPhone Xc- $799
iPhone Xs - $899
iPhone Xs Max - $999

Yeh the price is a hard one to call this year.

9to5 MAC. Have it higher.
https://9to5mac.com/2018/09/08/analysts-admit-they-were-wrong-about-iphone-x-predict-849-price-for-6-1-lcd-iphone/

“Goldman estimates Apple will price the iPhone 9 at $849, rather than the $699 some have speculated. The firm sees “some flexibility down to $800” for the iPhone 9 offering but doubts Apple will “go for lower price points” after iPhone X demand was more than expected the last few months.

“Apple is once again proving itself tough to bet against,” Hall added.”

Sure we will know on a few days. Going on the x last year. I prefer to go higher. That way I won’t be as disappointed (o:

eeloe

Phone company in China has basically confirmed that one of the new models will have dual sim. Wethers it’s the 6.1 only or all the 2018 models who knows.

I’m kinda hoping it’s all models, data roaming in the states is an expensive habit, it will be so handy to have a sim free slot available to stick a local sim in to!

DubDJ

eeloe wrote: »

Phone company in China has basically confirmed that one of the new models will have dual sim. Wethers it’s the 6.1 only or all the 2018 models who knows.

I’m kinda hoping it’s all models, data roaming in the states is an expensive habit, it will be so handy to have a sim free slot available to stick a local sim in to!

It’s more than likely going to be restricted to countries where dual-sim is popular/necessary. I doubt they’ll release it in Ireland though.

eeloe

Wishful thinking I know, but still!

My last phone bill from a 2 weeks trip was feckin eye watering!

peteeeed

so this is supposedly the 6.1 xc

https://twitter.com/Slashleaks/status/1037617326483537920

also back of xs retail box

eeloe

no more lightning to headphone jack!!!

Did anyone ever use it anyway? haha

Creamy Goodness

it went on to my Bose QC25 headphone cable and lived inside my Bose QC25 carrying case ever since. It might as well be attached from the factory.

I really need to invest in a pair of wireless noise cancelling headphones but there's no good ones with the apple W1-2 chip.

BigMoose

When my QC35s broke I had to use it - only when I was on a 16 hour flight did I realise I was going to struggle to listen to music and charge the poxy phone at the same time! The wife since stole it to put on the cable in her car so I had to buy another one...

Creamy Goodness

I bought one for the car, still in its box as I found this before I could cancel the order for the adapter :pac:.

peteeeed

eeloe wrote: »

no more lightning to headphone jack!!!

Did anyone ever use it anyway? haha

i use it to connect my phone to speakers in work

peteeeed

eeloe wrote: »

no more lightning to headphone jack!!!

Did anyone ever use it anyway? haha

this is rumoured for the ipad pro only i think, all new phones will stay with lightning for now

DubDJ

peteeeed wrote: »

this is rumoured for the ipad pro only i think, all new phones will stay with lightning for now

It’s not the port that’s not included, it’s the little lightning to headphone jack adapter/dongle that’s included in the box.

whiterebel

eeloe wrote: »

no more lightning to headphone jack!!!

Did anyone ever use it anyway? haha

Every day.

tony1980

Wireless all the way. AirPods and QC 35’s. Couldn’t go back.

eeloe

AirPods were a game changer for em!

tony1980

Love them. I bring them everywhere with me. I just wish I got them before the QC 35’s. They are been wasted now!

tony1980

We’ve come a long way. I remember trying to go for a run with a discman and wired headphones years ago when I was a teenager. You can imagine how that went 😆

Now we have IPhones, Bluetooth Headphones, Spotify and Apple Music streaming, we are spoilt!

Kagawa

I’m thinking of getting the series 4 Apple Watch, does anyone know when Compub would have it? Thinking it may be worth waiting as you get a two year guarantee.

eeloe

If Ireland is in the first wave of release countries, which it has been the last couple of years, expect them to be available on September 21st.

If we aren't in the first wave, could be any time.

Dades

tony1980 wrote: »

We’ve come a long way. I remember trying to go for a run with a discman and wired headphones years ago when I was a teenager. You can imagine how that went ��

Ha - times have changed alright!

I used to have a six-CD changer in the boot of my vintage Fiat, suspended by rubber bands within an empty box to minimise skipping.

Spotify + Bluetooth FTW. :P

godtabh

eeloe wrote: »

If Ireland is in the first wave of release countries, which it has been the last couple of years, expect them to be available on September 21st.

If we aren't in the first wave, could be any time.

My wife will be in San Francisco then. Hoping to pick up a series for to replace the original if there is a bit of savings to be made.

DubDJ

Kagawa wrote: »

I’m thinking of getting the series 4 Apple Watch, does anyone know when Compub would have it? Thinking it may be worth waiting as you get a two year guarantee.

Doesn’t Apple offer a 2 year warranty on all products either way, online included? I thought they were required to either way, and can vaguely remember reading something when I was checking a warranty repair recently that mentioned offering a 2 year Irish warranty under law. Or is the guarantee different from the warranty?

adox

Dunno why but I’m holding off buying the AirPods in the hope that something will be announced tomorrow when I know it won’t.

Have had various Bluetooth earbuds/headphones in my amazon basket in the last few days but have resisted in the hope of AirPod news. :pac:

DubDJ

I spent a good bit of time looking for decent Bluetooth earphones. Wanted them for running mainly, and had gone though 4 pairs that I was never happy with and kept coming loose while running.

After spending a few weeks looking around I decided to just try the AirPods, they were about a year old at that stage.

I absolutely love them, they’re great for running and just really convenient. I criticised them when they were first announced and thought they were ridiculous. Now I think they’re one of Apple’s most underrated products.

tony1980

I used them for The Rotterdam marathon back in April. I did use some surgical tape that day due to the sweat. They were great, you forget they are even there. They are my favorite Apple Product.

Ardennes1944

Same here, I thought they were silly. Switched from Android to an SE lately for the size and the missus got me some airpods cos I didnt want anything in particular, I use them so often its great! Fantastic product although I am not enjoying iOS so much, but airpods work just as great on android as I tested today!

tony1980

Out of curiosity, what are your main issues with IOS?

Eire Go Brach

Can't see the appeal of Airpods myself. But every one seems to rave about them. It is just the price. Can the sound be that good to justify the price? I am very happy worth my €20 Anker. Plus I go through a lot of headphones.

Although in saying that I also thought I would never get an Apple watch. Reckon I will be getting the series 4. Really enjoying and get more out wearing a wearable/tracker than I expected.

Oafley Jones

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

Can't see the appeal of Airpods myself. But every one seems to rave about them. It is just the price. Can the sound be that good to justify the price? I am very happy worth my €20 Anker. Plus I go through a lot of headphones.

Although in saying that I also thought I would never get an Apple watch. Reckon I will be getting the series 4. Really enjoying and get more out wearing a wearable/tracker than I expected.

They’re great, but sound ****e. Barely better than the pack in pods. Really like the convenience of them. Grand for podcasts and the like.

DubDJ

Yeah, sound wise they aren’t anything special, but they don’t sound terrible either. Weirdly enough, they sound better than the standard wired paid even though they’re supposed to be the same.

The wired ones never stayed in my ears, AirPods are solid, but I do use winged ear-tips when I run with them because the left one doesn’t stay as snug in my odd sized ears.

You’re paying the price for the convenience of them, the excellent battery life with the case and how well they work in the iOS ecosystem.

The wireless case will be a nice enough addition, but for me an updated pair with better sound quality, smaller size and some proper waterproofing would be worth the upgrade. I love them now so wireless charging or ‘hey siri’ support wouldn’t encourage me to want an upgrade.

ArthurG

DubDJ wrote: »

....... I love them now so wireless charging or ‘hey siri’ support wouldn’t encourage me to want an upgrade.

Is that the expected update - wireless charging and Siri?. My OH has a pair and i absolutely love them, but have been holding off in case of a more substantial upgrade. Neither of those would be hugely important for me, so i might just grab a pair with the new phone if that's the only change expected.

awec

eeloe wrote: »

no more lightning to headphone jack!!!

Did anyone ever use it anyway? haha

Most people with decent headphones I'd imagine.

DubDJ

ArthurG wrote: »

Is that the expected update - wireless charging and Siri?. My OH has a pair and i absolutely love them, but have been holding off in case of a more substantial upgrade. Neither of those would be hugely important for me, so i might just grab a pair with the new phone if that's the only change expected.

Yeah. The wireless charging case was announced last year but is only expected to start shipping now (which might be sold separately/more expensive), the only other feature I’ve seen rumoured is “Hey Siri” support. You can already activate Siri by tapping an AirPod but this would let you activate it with just your voice. I never use Siri so it’s of no interest to me.

There were a few rumours about bigger changes such as sound quality improvements but they supposedly won’t launch until 2019 and might be positioned as a premium/pro pair with a higher price tag.

Wait until the event is on later this evening to see what’s announced anyway, but rumours point to minimal updates to the AirPods this year.

eeloe

The AirPods sound quality is perfect, IMO....granted they aren't audiophile quality, but what wireless headphones are?

Perfect for the gym, walking, running(not that i do any of that) and pretty much every other application where you would use headphones.

The battery life is killer, the case is tiny(i kept losing them, so now i have a TwelveSouth airsnap case attached to my keys to keep a hold of them).

I'm not too sure what they could add to a new model(apart from wireless charging and the hey siri voice activation) that would tempt me to upgrade...

Oafley Jones

eeloe wrote: »

The AirPods sound quality is perfect, IMO....granted they aren't audiophile quality, but what wireless headphones are?

Perfect for the gym, walking, running(not that i do any of that) and pretty much every other application where you would use headphones.

The battery life is killer, the case is tiny(i kept losing them, so now i have a TwelveSouth airsnap case attached to my keys to keep a hold of them).

I'm not too sure what they could add to a new model(apart from wireless charging and the hey siri voice activation) that would tempt me to upgrade...

There a tons of wireless headphones that sound much, much better than them. I've a pair of B&O H5s that destroy them in terms of SQ, but they constantly work their way out of my ears so I leave them at home.

Creamy Goodness

Sound quality of AirPods ain't great they ain't going to compete with in-ears with better sound isolation or over-ears that have the internal volume to pack more tech in, but you're not buying them for that. You're buying them for the sheer convenience of having decent enough ear buds that are wireless and the entire package fits in the coin pocket of your jeans with decent battery life. No one has come close to this in the two years since AirPods were announced, and just shows how far ahead Apple got with these.

adox

I couldnt hold out and ordered a pair of over ear Bluetooth headphones. Price was too good to turn down. Sennheiser HD4.50BT with ANC. They have B stock for £79.99

I may still order a pair of airpods at some stage but I think it will be next year before there is anysignificant change to them by the sounds of it.