Luas drivers and their lunch

2smiggy

apparently cooler bags not good enough, SIPTU running a risk assessment on them. They seem to work well enough for any normal person that drives for a living. Are SIPTU running out of things to complain about to justify their existence ?

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suicide_circus

wonder how they survived 14 years of school. we certainly didn't have a fridge or cooler bags.

Pedro K

There will be people on this thread, soon enough, that will defend this to the hilt, as they defend, and often support, any industrial action, no matter how ridiculous it is.

Hurrache

What a bunch of whining whimps, seriously, how ridiculous are they.

ohnonotgmail

Pedro K wrote: »

There will be people on this thread, soon enough, that will defend this to the hilt, as they defend, and often support, any industrial action, no matter how ridiculous it is.

I haven't seen that poster around much since they were on the losing side of the abortion referendum.

wexie

Yeah heard that on the news earlier, they want the company to hire a few extra drivers so they can eat their lunch where they want....

There are thousands of people all over the country that carry their lunches around in a regular lunch box, not to mention school kids...

I think these guys are just going out of their way to find things to strike over absolutely ludicrous.

mfceiling

I brought my lunch to work today in a dealz plastic bag.

Expect EOTR to post shortly defending this shìte.

major bill

This stuff boils my piss!! SIPTU must have nothing better to do, as said **** stir to keep themselves relevant, I am all for the concept of Unions but they show their true colours in the Economic good times.

Neyite

They need Ads by Google's electric lunchbox!

stargazer 68

Unbelievable! Front line workers can do 12 hours with no lunch at all. We called siptu for an actual issue and they were 'too busy' to come out to us!!

For Forks Sake

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I haven't seen that poster around much since they were on the losing side of the abortion referendum.

they seem to be in the celebrity big brother thread of all places..if we all keep really quiet he mightn't notice this thread..

Shenshen

Surely that's a pisstake? My lunch AND my dinner (will be working a very long shift today) are sitting right beside me here, in cooler bags.
But then, I'm just an ordinary, university-educated person in a business-critical position in a private company, not someone who walked in off the street into a public service-type of job.

kylith

I used to work in a swimming pool. I kept my lunch in a cooler bag, using a frozen juice box as an ice pack. By the time lunch rolled around my food was cool, and the juice box no more melted than a slush puppy; in constant 32C heat.

This is ridiculous.

Wheety

Pedro K wrote: »

There will be people on this thread, soon enough, that will defend this to the hilt, as they defend, and often support, any industrial action, no matter how ridiculous it is.

"No need to defend. The matter is not ridiculous. The drivers deserve to have their lunch kept at optimum temperatures. 5 extra drivers would be 5 less people on the dole."

:rolleyes:

Badly Drunk Boy

2smiggy wrote: »

apparently cooler bags not good enough, SIPTU running a risk assessment on them. They seem to work well enough for any normal person that drives for a living. Are SIPTU running out of things to complain about to justify their existence ?

Pedro K wrote: »

There will be people on this thread, soon enough, that will defend this to the hilt, as they defend, and often support, any industrial action, no matter how ridiculous it is.

This particular case might be dodgy, but SIPTU do good work to help and protect their members. I'm a member, and while I don't like paying €5 a week, they do a decent job on negotiating wage increases and looking after members who have a dispute in work. I've never gone on strike in 22 years of full time employment and hope I never have to.

It's usually non-union members or management-types who are constantly whinging about unions here and elsewhere.

ohnonotgmail

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

This particular case might be dodgy, but SIPTU do good work to help and protect their members. I'm a member, and while I don't like paying €5 a week, they do a decent job on negotiating wage increases and looking after members who have a dispute in work. I've never gone on strike in 22 years of full time employment and hope I never have to.

It's usually non-union members or management-types who are constantly whinging about unions here and elsewhere.

Do you think this is the type of issue that SIPTU should be working on? Do you think the luas drivers have a genuine grievance?

James Forde

This horseshít on the same day that it's announced that driverless buses will begin to be trialed in Dublin next week.

The clock is ticking for these clowns.

SEPT 23 1989

Pedro K wrote: »

There will be people on this thread, soon enough, that will defend this to the hilt, as they defend, and often support, any industrial action, no matter how ridiculous it is.

Citizen Smith will be up out of the bed after lunch and will reply to all your comments

CeilingFly

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

This particular case might be dodgy, but SIPTU do good work to help and protect their members. I'm a member, and while I don't like paying €5 a week, they do a decent job on negotiating wage increases and looking after members who have a dispute in work. I've never gone on strike in 22 years of full time employment and hope I never have to.

It's usually non-union members or management-types who are constantly whinging about unions here and elsewhere.

But it this type of abject stupidity that makes unions a laughing stock.


On a level of stupidity, this was totally off the scale

_Brian

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

This particular case might be dodgy, but SIPTU do good work to help and protect their members. I'm a member, and while I don't like paying €5 a week, they do a decent job on negotiating wage increases and looking after members who have a dispute in work. I've never gone on strike in 22 years of full time employment and hope I never have to.

It's usually non-union members or management-types who are constantly whinging about unions here and elsewhere.

I’m a SIPTU member we had a terrible experience with them.

If your not big numbers and don’t have an essential high profile service to hold to ransom then they have no interest.

2smiggy

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

This particular case might be dodgy, but SIPTU do good work to help and protect their members. I'm a member, and while I don't like paying €5 a week, they do a decent job on negotiating wage increases and looking after members who have a dispute in work. I've never gone on strike in 22 years of full time employment and hope I never have to.

It's usually non-union members or management-types who are constantly whinging about unions here and elsewhere.

my point being is this is what the Unions were set up for ? this is ridiculous in my opinion. They just said on the radio there that SIPTU thinks the members will reject the cooler bags (i can't believe i'm typing this) and strike action could be on the way :mad:

Should have got rid of them last time

They clearly need electric lunchboxes

2smiggy

James Forde wrote: »

This horseshon the same day that it's announced that driverless buses will begin to be trialed in Dublin next week.

The clock is ticking for these clowns.

had not heard that

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if they can have driverless busses , I'd imagine the luas would be much more straight forward to implement

Owl.

Thought it was April 1st when I heard this on the news a few mins ago. I had to ****e in a field at work once.

Hector Bellend

Just eat your f*cking lunch and do your f*cking job.

gimli2112

If I hadn't seen this with my own eyes I wouldn't have believed it. Won't be a problem for the robot drivers in a few years.

GLaDOS

gimli2112 wrote: »

If I hadn't seen this with my own eyes I wouldn't have believed it. Won't be a problem for the robot drivers in a few years.

"SIPTU demand oil tanks for robot drivers' lunch"

Keyzer

gimli2112 wrote: »

If I hadn't seen this with my own eyes I wouldn't have believed it. Won't be a problem for the robot drivers in a few years.

Sooner the better, we drastically need robots to replace these moaning gits.

mfceiling

https://youtu.be/0kC2XCiSdEE

salmocab

This seems like one of those things that should have got mentioned in a meeting with nothing coming of it, as in ‘it’s a pain having lunch in a different depot to where I started’ ‘ sorry about that it’s the only way we can make it work’ ‘ah it’s grand I’ll get a chiller bag or something’.

SimonTemplar

I was reading that article and kept waiting for a more serious issue to be at the heart of the dispute but no, it is just as petty and ridiculous as it seems. They should just be glad they are so well paid for their job ffs.

PlaneSpeeking

I'm going to ask a really dumb question now - what do the morons at SIPTU actually want ?

Better cool bags ? Taxis to the greasy spoon of the driver's choice ? Deliveroo from Marco Pierre White's gaff on Dawson Street ????

My lunch is in a plazzy bag under the desk. Striking over that ? Knobheads.

If you're a spare minute - Google the union shop steward from Carry On At Your Convenience. That's SIPTU et al.

wexie

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

I'm going to ask a really dumb question now - what do the morons at SIPTU actually want ?

Apparently they want extra drivers hired (at a cost of 200000 I think I heard on the news) so the other ones can travel to wherever it is they want to have lunch....

Dravokivich

Pedro K wrote: »

There will be people on this thread, soon enough, that will defend this to the hilt, as they defend, and often support, any industrial action, no matter how ridiculous it is.

Actually. Nbru haven't striked over lunches. This is a shot in the foot of those that argue privatizing will reduce the impact of strikes by Dublin bus and Irish rail. As they've nothing to do with this.

Dravokivich

Shenshen wrote: »

Surely that's a pisstake? My lunch AND my dinner (will be working a very long shift today) are sitting right beside me here, in cooler bags.
But then, I'm just an ordinary, university-educated person in a business-critical position in a private company, not someone who walked in off the street into a public service-type of job.

Luas is operated privately.

Pedro K

Dravokivich wrote: »

Actually. Nbru haven't striked over lunches. This is a shot in the foot of those that argue privatizing will reduce the impact of strikes by Dublin bus and Irish rail. As they've nothing to do with this.

Eh. Ok. Don't know why you quoted me though. I didn't mention NBRU. Just said that there are some people who will defend any industrial action, no matter how ridiculous.

Dravokivich

Pedro K wrote: »

Eh. Ok. Don't know why you quoted me though. I didn't mention NBRU. Just said that there are some people who will defend any union or industrial action, no matter how ridiculous.

Nbru are the ones that get a lot of bad press regarding Dublin bus and Irish rail strikes. Those you said who'll defend it, primarily spoke up about those issues. This lunch box debacle has nothing to do with them. But the NBRU seem to be the posterboys for union discontent. So I reckoned was important to relate your remarks to their lack of involvement. Its not public service or a public service union pushing this dispute.

Dravokivich

OSI wrote: »

words

They aren't though.

PlaneSpeeking

wexie wrote: »

Apparently they want extra drivers hired (at a cost of 200000 I think I heard on the news) so the other ones can travel to wherever it is they want to have lunch....

So not for passengers ? (Veal like again on the red line today).

Mad!

uck51js9zml2yt

Keyzer wrote: »

Sooner the better, we drastically need robots to replace these moaning gits.

Maybe we could make them into Cybermen!

2smiggy

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

I'm going to ask a really dumb question now - what do the morons at SIPTU actually want ?

Better cool bags ? Taxis to the greasy spoon of the driver's choice ? Deliveroo from Marco Pierre White's gaff on Dawson Street ????

My lunch is in a plazzy bag under the desk. Striking over that ? Knobheads.

If you're a spare minute - Google the union shop steward from Carry On At Your Convenience. That's SIPTU et al.

think they are using it as an excuse to get 5 new drivers. Which would mean less work for everyone (at the same pay of course) and the drivers won't , god forbid, have to carry their lunches with them.

Shenshen

Dravokivich wrote: »

Luas is operated privately.

That's why I said "public service-type", not public service.

yesto24

Shenshen wrote: »

That's why I said "public service-type", not public service.

Ah yes.
But don't you know because it could be interpreted a way that is wrong, it means everything else you said is wrong.
You entire post and all points in it can be dismissed and that means the drivers are right.

Kat1170

Shenshen wrote: »

Surely that's a pisstake? My lunch AND my dinner (will be working a very long shift today) are sitting right beside me here, in cooler bags.
But then, I'm just an ordinary, university-educated person in a business-critical position in a private company, not someone who walked in off the street into a public service-type of job.

Public service type job ????? WTF are you on about. Its a private company, just the same as the one you claim to work for. What's wrong ? 'Front Line Customer Support Facilitator' not quite the title you thought you thought your University education would drop in your lap :pac::pac::pac:

Effects

Kat1170 wrote: »

Public service type job ????? WTF are you on about.:

I presume it means like public servants who aren't that highly educated, in secure jobs, that expect pay and conditions far above what the average worker gets or is reasonable.

Idbatterim

im assuming these scum bags want more pay! They are already massively over paid! See this is the problem when one side is a business, that has to be seen as getting "value" or doing something for its members, no matter how ludicrous. Imagine the pay these people with no qualifications would be on , if they didnt have their golden Luas job, its comedy! They know where the door to a likely fifty percent pay reduction is, if they dont like pushing a single level forwards and backwards!

Padraig Mor

wexie wrote: »

Apparently they want extra drivers hired (at a cost of 200000 I think I heard on the news) so the other ones can travel to wherever it is they want to have lunch....

Doubt that's what they actually want - I'd be 99% certain that the desired outcome is to 'settle' with a 'disturbance' payoff to the current drivers (i.e. a pay rise). Union negotiations 101.

Your Face

I don't know how they could file this grievance and not feel embarrassed.

Shenshen

Kat1170 wrote: »

Public service type job ????? WTF are you on about. Its a private company, just the same as the one you claim to work for. What's wrong ? 'Front Line Customer Support Facilitator' not quite the title you thought you thought your University education would drop in your lap :pac::pac::pac:

Business Systems Automation, sweetheart - and a privately operated public service remains a public service. Particularly a monopoly type one like the Luas.

PlaneSpeeking

Shenshen wrote: »

Business Systems Automation, sweetheart - a privately operated public service remains a public service.

Sorry I read that as "automaton" and thought how cool!!!!!!

Blazer

Let them strike.
It will just encourage Transdev to automate the entire system and then these guys can sit on the dole queue.
I won’t even mind my taxes going for their dole as it will teach them a lesson in how good they had it and still took the piss.