Two time zones in Ireland after Brexit

dxhound2005

hognef wrote: »

And indeed they do, but normally they cope with maximum 1 hour difference. The 3 hours between the east and west coasts does already cause issues; a six hour difference between an office in Ireland and an office in the US will cause more issue, due to the even shorter overlap.

What does "issues" mean?

Dr. Bre

Already two time zones on this island - Dublin in the present Belfast in the past

hognef

dxhound2005 wrote: »

What does "issues" mean?

Difficulties scheduling meetings involving attendees from different timezones.

With a six hour timezone difference (to the US east coast), the overlap remaining is 2 hours, within which all meetings requiring attendees from the two locations will need to happen.

One of Ireland's advantages over the likes of India and even Poland (in the context of US investment) is precisely the fact that there is a reasonable amount of overlap.

Not saying it's the overriding factor, but it's a factor nevertheless.

PowerToWait

Sardine wrote: »

Who cares? It’s a kip. I hate being reminded it even exists.

I'll wager you've never been further north than Skerries and know not one Nordie.

yrreg0850

Why do we have to take dictation from the mandrins in Brussles.
You can be sure Theresa may will not take any nonsence from our masters.

Surely it is in our own interest to have the same time zone as the north.

Yer Da sells Avon

We should put the clocks back one hour every morning and then forward again every evening, thus ensuring brighter mornings and evenings.

El_Duderino 09

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yeah, that’s how it should work. Allow all the other issues to stack up until enormous issue of immigration is resolved. What’s next? Solve climate change?

Is DST an issue then? I would have put it firmly in th “quirk” category myself.

Infini

Honestly I would prefer they just get rid of Summer Time and just leave the clock's unchanged on GMT. Midday/Midnight should actually mean that and not be an hour ahead of what it actually is. If mainland Europe wants to be 1hr ahead all year round that's fine by me but not here.

indioblack

artanevilla wrote: »

We are about 80 years ahead of the six already sure.

Will the clocks be going forward by that much?

n97 mini

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Lots of US states have more than one time zone, and their mainland has four time zones. I'm sure they could cope.

There's only one state, Arizona, which doesn't observe DST. As a result half the year it's an hour different to the state directly north of it, Utah. Having spent time in both, it is a minor pain in the hole, but a pain in the hole no less.

El_Duderino 09

Aegir wrote: »

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yeah, that’s how it should work. Allow all the other issues to stack up until enormous issue of immigration is resolved. What’s next? Solve climate change?

Is DST an issue then? I would have put it firmly in th “quirk” category myself.

I don’t really get your point. The eu should be doing lots of things all at once to deal with ‘issues’ and ‘quirks’.

DChancer

There has always been two time zones on this island
NI aka the land that time forgot
Ireland a modern liberal tolerant state

Hector Bellend

Apparently Britain is going to run out of Electricity after Brexit. This is according to my old man who is a self confessed world renowned know all on everything.

Hector Bellend

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Already two time zones on this island - Dublin in the present Belfast in the past

That's inaccurate.

Leitrim still hasnt experienced fire, the wheel, electricity or civilisation.

Giraffe Box

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

We should put the clocks back one hour every morning and then forward again every evening, thus ensuring brighter mornings and evenings.

What about forward by one hour every morning and back by one hour each evening on our return, thus ensuring a shorter, less strenuous working day, with the added bonus of enjoying more leisure time in the evening whilst at home relaxing with the wife and kiddies!

Yer Da sells Avon

Giraffe Box wrote: »

What about forward by one hour every morning and back by one hour each evening on our return, thus ensuring a shorter, less strenuous working day, with the added bonus of enjoying more leisure time in the evening whilst at home relaxing with the wife and kiddies!

Or we could keep putting it back every hour, like there's no tomorrow. There would literally be no tomorrow.

Duckworth_Luas

So the Dubs get a 60 minute head-start on Tyrone then?

Niles Crane

It says 88% of people in ireland who participated in the poll wanted daylight savings abolished yet it seems this poll was an online poll and therefore the only people who would have bothered to participate in it would be people who actually had an issue with the clocks changing which means there is a massive amount of confirmation bias with the results of this poll.

It would put us further out of synch with the USA and out of synch with the UK and considering they are are our 2 biggest trading partners it would be ridiculous to change unless we move in synch with them.80% of Irish multinational employment is with American companies.

It's complete nonsense if the government agrees to this particularly if the UK doesn't follow this change.

yrreg0850

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It's complete nonsense if the government agrees to this particularly if the UK doesn't follow this change.[/QUOTE]


Totally agree. Why should we take dictation from Brussles. After all we are closer to London than to brussles or Berlin.

pleas advice

Hector Bellend wrote: »

Apparently Britain is going to run out of Electricity after Brexit.

No, Britain will be fine


Northern Ireland will be fúcked tho

https://www.ft.com/content/dcd8bb09-d583-3407-9209-942ab7915513

Thousands of electricity generators would have to be requisitioned at short notice and put on barges in the Irish Sea to help keep the lights on in Northern Ireland in the event of the hardest no-deal Brexit, according to one paper drawn up by Whitehall officials.
That could involve bringing back equipment from far-flung countries such as Afghanistan – where the UK is still part of Nato-led operations

nim1bdeh38l2cw

Infini wrote: »

Honestly I would prefer they just get rid of Summer Time and just leave the clock's unchanged on GMT. Midday/Midnight should actually mean that and not be an hour ahead of what it actually is. If mainland Europe wants to be 1hr ahead all year round that's fine by me but not here.

You realise that is exactly what is being proposed?

OldMrBrennan83

One time zone in Ireland and a different one in the UK. Where are you getting the two in Ireland from?

nim1bdeh38l2cw

Patww79 wrote: »

One time zone in Ireland and a different one in the UK. Where are you getting the two in Ireland from?

Part of the island of Ireland is in the UK if you haven't noticed

pleas advice

Two time zones in the British Isles, not a good idea...

OldMrBrennan83

Niko Aggressive Skylight wrote: »

Part of the island of Ireland is in the UK if you haven't noticed

So? Islands aren't countries. Ireland will still only have one time zone.

If anything it'll be better as it'll drive another difference between us and our UK neighbours to the north.

yrreg0850

timthumbni wrote: »

Feck there is some stuck up people from the republic. 80 years ahead, 300 years ahead of some in NI, etc etc.

Anyways you will do whatever the EU tell you to do, even if it isn’t good for you. And if you say no, then the Eu will tell you to go away and think and come back and say yes. And you will do.

Are we a soverign nation or not , must we always do what Brussles or Berlin tell us.

You wont see Teresa May having a second referrendum.

The Rape of Lucretia

yrreg0850 wrote: »

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Are we a soverign nation or not , must we always do what Brussles or Berlin tell us.

You wont see Teresa May having a second referrendum.

Partly. And partly a pooled sovereignty with our European partners. In some cases, yes. No. But then, to some degree, we are Brussels.

Mmmmm.

Kermit.de.frog

artanevilla wrote: »

We are about 80 years ahead of the six already sure.

Driving north is interesting. It's like a form of time travel.

dxhound2005

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Driving north is interesting. It's like a form of time travel.

From Cork to Dublin?

timthumbni

timthumbni wrote: »

Feck there is some stuck up people from the republic. 80 years ahead, 300 years ahead of some in NI, etc etc.

From a nation who were basically ran by an international gang of paedophiles youse have some nerve on ye. Anyways you will do whatever the EU tell you to do, even if it isn’t good for you. And if you say no, then the Eu will tell you to go away and think and come back and say yes. And you will do.

That's actually quite funny you aim that remark at others considering what Brexit will do to you up there.

WinnyThePoo

timthumbni wrote: »

Anyways I thought the whole idea of the clocks going back or whatever is so as kids aren’t walking to school in darkness.

It sure beats having piss thrown at our kids.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Patww79 wrote: »

So? Islands aren't countries. Ireland will still only have one time zone.

If anything it'll be better as it'll drive another difference between us and our UK neighbours to the north.

Ireland is literally an island. Literally.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Niko Aggressive Skylight wrote: »

You realise that is exactly what is being proposed?

No it isn’t. The guy you were responding to said that he hoped it would be winter time all year, but the proposal is summer time all year.

OldMrBrennan83

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Ireland is literally an island. Literally.

With two countries on it. Your point?

Again, islands aren't automatically countries.

Beasty

Post Brexit the UK could turn the clocks upside down if they want. It was only the EU that standardised the current system with changes on the last Sundays in March and October.

Would have thought though that maintaining consistency would make far more sense to all, and indeed the idea has been under discussion in the UK in recent years anyway.

bobbysands81

Patww79 wrote: »

So? Islands aren't countries. Ireland will still only have one time zone.

If anything it'll be better as it'll drive another difference between us and our UK neighbours to the north.

They’re our friends now.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Patww79 wrote: »

With two countries on it. Your point?

Again, islands aren't automatically countries.

Nobody is saying there is one country on this island. The usage of the term Ireland is clearly in this context referring to the island.

No ambiguity in the op.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

After hearing the news yesterday that the EU are planning to scrap the twice yearly changing of the clock, could it be possible that we could be faced with a situation where there will be two different time zones in Ireland. The UK may elect to stay with the system of daylight saving time which will mean that we will be either an hour ahead or behind Northern Ireland. This is hardly going to work?

By Ireland he is clearly means the island as a whole, as he then distinguishes between the U.K. part (Northern Ireland) and “we” - the republic.

nobody thinks there aren’t two different countries in the island because if there weren’t there would be no issue.

So in comes you polluting the thread with “there are two countries on the island” as if that was a fcuking revelation to anyone. Thanks, genius- we know. That’s actually the problem here.

Patww79

Patww79 wrote: »

So? Islands aren't countries. Ireland will still only have one time zone.

If anything it'll be better as it'll drive another difference between us and our UK neighbours to the north.

Jaysus Pat you never tire of banging this worn out drum. Was it an Irish county versus a British county in Croke Park yesterday then?

joeysoap

If it comes to pass that we (and others in the Eu) are not changing from say October 2019, then the odds are the UK won’t change either.

harry Bailey esq

[Deleted User] wrote: »

.This is hardly going to work?

Ah you must be one of 'the glass is half empty' subset. I say subset rather than brigade as the latter might be misconstrued as you having some loyalist connotations especially with the nickname you've chosen for yourself. If implemented with some guile, the average 9-5 pleb could gain several weeks of leisure time a year. Coincidentally, I was thinking about something similar during the week. A famous DJ, a particular favourite of mine managed to ring in the new millennium twice, by flying across the international date line. I'm pretty sure he got paid for both gigs!

pleas advice

joeysoap wrote: »

If it comes to pass that we (and others in the Eu) are not changing from say October 2019, then the odds are the UK won’t change either.

polls are saying that if there is a hard / no deal / bad deal brexit, there could be a majority in Scotland (and N.Ireland) voting for independence.
And Scotland is the main reason they haven't moved away from daylight saving time, so you could be right...

An Claidheamh

timthumbni wrote: »

Feck there is some stuck up people from the republic. 80 years ahead, 300 years ahead of some in NI, etc etc.

From a nation who were basically ran by an international gang of paedophiles youse have some nerve on ye. Anyways you will do whatever the EU tell you to do, even if it isn’t good for you. And if you say no, then the Eu will tell you to go away and think and come back and say yes. And you will do.

Touched a nerve did we?

We also seem to be ahead of Norn Iron, in that they haven't yet developed their own internet forums up there.:pac:

An Claidheamh

yrreg0850 wrote: »

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Are we a soverign nation or not , must we always do what Brussles or Berlin tell us.

You wont see Teresa May having a second referrendum.

She will, if she has any sense.

Otherwise Britain England will be a vassal state of the EU and not a sovereign at all.

But hey, blue passports right:rolleyes:

An Claidheamh

yrreg0850 wrote: »

Totally agree. Why should we take dictation from Brussles. After all we are closer to London than to brussles or Berlin.

Speak for yourself.

Personally, it'd be hilarious when the loyalists in the North try to insist upon everybody their British time and have everyone else ignore it.

It's spelled Brussels by the way, and the European parliament is in Strasburg, France not Berlin.

But then again, you're taking your dictation from London so it doesn't really concern you.

How's the pound doing?

thebull85

timthumbni wrote: »

Feck there is some stuck up people from the republic. 80 years ahead, 300 years ahead of some in NI, etc etc.

From a nation who were basically ran by an international gang of paedophiles youse have some nerve on ye. Anyways you will do whatever the EU tell you to do, even if it isn’t good for you. And if you say no, then the Eu will tell you to go away and think and come back and say yes. And you will do.

Sad but true.

OldMrBrennan83

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Nobody is saying there is one country on this island. The usage of the term Ireland is clearly in this context referring to the island.

No ambiguity in the op.



By Ireland he is clearly means the island as a whole, as he then distinguishes between the U.K. part (Northern Ireland) and “we” - the republic.

nobody thinks there aren’t two different countries in the island because if there weren’t there would be no issue.

So in comes you polluting the thread with “there are two countries on the island” as if that was a fcuking revelation to anyone. Thanks, genius- we know. That’s actually the problem here.

We're not "the Republic", we're Ireland.

Pkiernan

Ladies and gentlemen. We've landed safely in Belfast.
Please set your watches back 400 years and 1 hour.

Wanderer78

First country to implement the smoking ban, now time travel, we re well ahead of the rest

The J Stands for Jay

timthumbni wrote: »

Feck there is some stuck up people from the republic. 80 years ahead, 300 years ahead of some in NI, etc etc.

From a nation who were basically ran by an international gang of paedophiles youse have some nerve on ye. Anyways you will do whatever the EU tell you to do, even if it isn’t good for you. And if you say no, then the Eu will tell you to go away and think and come back and say yes. And you will do.

Is it better to be run by a national gang of paedophiles than an international gang?

The J Stands for Jay

McGaggs wrote: »

Is it better to be run by a national gang of paedophiles than an international gang?

I'm talking about your ruling Tory party BTW.