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What to do with empty log cabin?

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  • 01-09-2018 6:35pm
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    Spice Girl
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    Have an empty log cabin type building in Dublin 12. It is in the back garden of house we rent out.
    It has kitchen, bathroom, bedroom and large living room with stairs up to attic space.
    we can't rent it out for residential use. it has planning permission as a garden store.
    it is basically going to start to rot through not being used/maintained.
    does anyone have suggestions of what we could use it for - could it be rented out as an artist studio?


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    ted1
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    Spice Girl wrote: »
    Have an empty log cabin type building in Dublin 12. It is in the back garden of house we rent out.
    It has kitchen, bathroom, bedroom and large living room with stairs up to attic space.
    we can't rent it out for residential use. it has planning permission as a garden store.
    it is basically going to start to rot through not being used/maintained.
    does anyone have suggestions of what we could use it for - could it be rented out as an artist studio?
    What does your current lease say? You might have an issue with your existing tenants if you suddenly allow strangers access the shed through their garden


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    ouxbbkqtswdfaw
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    It's ridiculous that such places can't be used as residential in the current housing situation. Prefer to have people on the street.


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    gozunda
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    Rent it out as an artist's studio or writers retreat for day use only ...


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    Deank
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    ank2y1rojm86qg wrote: »
    It's ridiculous that such places can't be used as residential in the current housing situation. Prefer to have people on the street.

    You wouldn't be saying that if it was next door to you ;)


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    tuisginideach
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    It's generally fire regulations etc that are the problem there.


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    Gumbo
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    tuisginideach wrote: »
    It's generally fire regulations etc that are the problem there.

    Fire regs
    Building regs
    Over intensivcation of the site.
    Sub standard accommodation.
    Etc
    Etc


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    4ensic15
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    Spice Girl wrote: »
    Have an empty log cabin type building in Dublin 12. It is in the back garden of house we rent out.
    It has kitchen, bathroom, bedroom and large living room with stairs up to attic space.
    we can't rent it out for residential use. it has planning permission as a garden store.
    it is basically going to start to rot through not being used/maintained.
    does anyone have suggestions of what we could use it for - could it be rented out as an artist studio?

    A lot depends on the access. Is it necessary to pass through the house from the public road to it, or is there side access?


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    Gumbo
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    4ensic15 wrote: »
    A lot depends on the access. Is it necessary to pass through the house from the public road to it, or is there side access?

    Shouldn’t make a difference. The use of the shed is ancillary to the main dwellings, so it’s for the enjoyment of the occupants of the main dwelling. Whether they have to go through the house or through a side entrance is immaterial.


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    4ensic15
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    kceire wrote: »
    Shouldn’t make a difference. The use of the shed is ancillary to the main dwellings, so it’s for the enjoyment of the occupants of the main dwelling. Whether they have to go through the house or through a side entrance is immaterial.

    It makes a big difference if there is any attempt to have it used by a non-resident.


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    Gumbo
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    4ensic15 wrote: »
    It makes a big difference if there is any attempt to have it used by a non-resident.

    What difference could it make?
    Can you give an example of where a side entrance is better than not in this instance?
    Given the fact that this is a domestic shed, so no works, business etc can take place here.


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    4ensic15
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    If it was available to someone such as a tradesman or shopkeeper to use as a store, access without going through the house would be helpful.


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    Graham
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    4ensic15 wrote: »
    If it was available to someone such as a tradesman or shopkeeper to use as a store, access without going through the house would be helpful.

    I don't think the OP mentioned a tradesman or shopkeeper as current tenants.

    I would assume use by a 3rd party would constitute change of use.


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    Gumbo
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    4ensic15 wrote: »
    If it was available to someone such as a tradesman or shopkeeper to use as a store, access without going through the house would be helpful.

    Use by a non occupant of the main dwelling would technically breach the planning regulations.

    Add to the fact that there would be insurance issues here also, as normal residential insurance policies will cover normal contents of a shed, not tools, materials or items belonging to a tradesman not connected to the resident.


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    Sleeper12
    Registered Users Posts: 17,069 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    These log cabins have been a good 2nd hand value if you ever decide to sell


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    ouxbbkqtswdfaw
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    If we really cared about the rough sleepers we would allow them live in properly regulated log cabins, mobile homes etc. The homeless problem will never be solved by building houses. The number of homeless will always exceed supply of housing.


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    Harry Palmr
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    Take it apart, treat the wood as required and sell it. Take comprehensive photos of it as it is first.


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    Lumen
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    ank2y1rojm86qg wrote: »
    If we really cared about the rough sleepers we would allow them live in properly regulated log cabins, mobile homes etc. The homeless problem will never be solved by building houses. The number of homeless will always exceed supply of housing.

    Rough sleeping is a not caused by a dwelling shortage.


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