Connacht Team Talk Thread V - The Friend Zone

Wegians89

The Friend Zone

Also sounds like niyi and mckeon will be back next week too

connachta

Wegians89 wrote: »

Also sounds like niyi and mckeon will be back next week too

yeah, vs Kings:)

CowboyTed

MarinersBlues wrote: »

Based on his analysis of the game he hadn't watched he has formed the opinion that Blade hasn't done enough to pass Cooney in the Irish SH pecking order.

Clown.

Surprised he hasn't complained about Blade's nationality... He is not from Dublin you know...

connachta

A.Friend
“When you have fresh bodies who are eager to play, with a six-day turnaround there is every chance some, if not all of them, will play.”
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/european-cup/connacht-have-come-far-when-big-win-against-montpellier-is-pulled-apart-1.4088806?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

MarinersBlues

Mul, it's over

connachta wrote: »

Amazing!! that's a hell of a good-looking team, then, to snap a BP!


1) Buckley
2) Heff
3) Bealham
4) Roux
5) Ultan
6) Masterson
7) Fainga'a
8) Copeland
9) Blade
10) Carty
11) Healy
12) Aki
13) Farrell
14) Porch
15) S.Fitzgerald


16) Delahunt
17) McCabe
18) McCoy
19) Macksymiw
20) Boyle
21) Kerrins
22) Robb/Daly
23) Godwin

A reasonable guess and a strong looking team.

I would expect C.Fitzgerald to be on the bench at the very least

Wegians89

The Friend Zone

MarinersBlues wrote: »

A reasonable guess and a strong looking team.

I would expect C.Fitzgerald to be on the bench at the very least

On form Fitz deserves the start can see them sticking with carty though

Stan27

What's the story with delahunt ?
Would he be the starting 2 when fit ?

Wegians89

The Friend Zone

Stan27 wrote: »

What's the story with delahunt ?
Would he be the starting 2 when fit ?

Last year would have been a toss up between delahunt and Heffernan but McCartney has been really good so far this season

Mr Tickle

Wegians89 wrote: »

On form Fitz deserves the start can see them sticking with carty though

Agreed. Carty may have just had an off day at the weekend. Given his last season I'd give him another start but be prepared to take him off if it's not working.
Fitz 22 and Godwin 23 probably gives the best coverage.

Lebute

Would Mark Flanagan be a good short term signing given our injury profile?

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/it-just-wasnt-great-for-my-career-former-leinster-second-row-on-why-he-regrets-moving-to-saracens-38709969.html

Bazzo

Mul, it's over

Mul being promoted from defence coach to forwards coach at Bristol next season.

connachta

Lebute wrote: »

Would Mark Flanagan be a good short term signing given our injury profile?

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/it-just-wasnt-great-for-my-career-former-leinster-second-row-on-why-he-regrets-moving-to-saracens-38709969.html

I've thought about him for the last years, but now Roux is back, It will depend on Thornbury/Gallagher recovery time...

Wegians89

The Friend Zone

Sean masterson added to European squad in place of thornbury- Murray kinsella

connachta

MarinersBlues wrote: »

A reasonable guess and a strong looking team.

I would expect C.Fitzgerald to be on the bench at the very least

I don't get the hype with C.Fitz. He wasn't on the teamsheet last week before late injuries. No reason it changes this week, excluding one of our best players out of the 23 (Robb or Godwin).

He is 22 y.o, and will have plenty of opportunities better than Toulouse away to show how well-developing he is, starting next week vs Kings

Can't believe some would even have him ahead of international Carty because the latter had a bad day..:mad:

Wegians89

The Friend Zone

connachta wrote: »

I don't get the hype with C.Fitz. He wasn't on the teamsheet last week before late injuries. No reason it changes this week, excluding one of our best players out of the 23 (Robb or Godwin).

He is 22 y.o, and will have plenty of opportunities better than Toulouse away to show how well-developing he is, starting next week vs Kings

The hype with C Fitz? He’s been one of the best players this season regardless of age. He has every reason to be in the 23 against any opposition

MarinersBlues

Mul, it's over

connachta wrote: »

I don't get the hype with C.Fitz. He wasn't on the teamsheet last week before late injuries. No reason it changes this week, excluding one of our best players out of the 23 (Robb or Godwin).

He is 22 y.o, and will have plenty of opportunities better than Toulouse away to show how well-developing he is, starting next week vs Kings

Can't believe some would even have him ahead of international Carty because the latter had a bad day..:mad:

He has been playing better than Carty.

You can't insist that players should be picked on form for the Irish team based on form and then renage on that by make players untouchable for the province.

its_phil

Mul, it's over

MarinersBlues wrote: »

He has been playing better than Carty.

You can't insist that players should be picked on form for the Irish team based on form and then renage on that by make players untouchable for the province.

If we were going to the Kings next week, I'd say the same but Jack has only had two games to be fair since coming back and we're going to Toulouse this weekend. It's a tough place for a young 10 to start.

Wegians89

The Friend Zone

its_phil wrote: »

If we were going to the Kings next week, I'd say the same but Jack has only had two games to be fair since coming back and we're going to Toulouse this weekend. It's a tough place for a young 10 to start.

Don’t think you need to start Fitz but he should be on the bench at the least

connachta

its_phil wrote: »

If we were going to the Kings next week, I'd say the same but Jack has only had two games to be fair since coming back and we're going to Toulouse this weekend. It's a tough place for a young 10 to start.

Thank you

evil_seed

The Friend Zone

connachta wrote: »

I don't get the hype with C.Fitz. He wasn't on the teamsheet last week before late injuries. No reason it changes this week, excluding one of our best players out of the 23 (Robb or Godwin).

He is 22 y.o, and will have plenty of opportunities better than Toulouse away to show how well-developing he is, starting next week vs Kings

Can't believe some would even have him ahead of international Carty because the latter had a bad day..:mad:

I think it does change this week. He's proven his worth plenty this year and is more than capable. He's 22, not 17. No player is untouchable. Welcome to my ignore list.

ClanofLams

Mul, it's over

Conor Fitz has been excellent. I would go with Carty this week though, he had a poor game last week but he still had a couple of nice breaks and it was only his second game. Think he’s tougher to defend against than Fitzgerald is at the moment. Certainly not saying he’s untouchable and Conor Fitz might take the jersey if Carty doesn’t improve soon but Carty the right option this week imo.

Would maybe start Robertson McCoy, Bealham came back against Leinster and got injured after five minutes so think it might be better to have him for the last twenty five.

Wegians89

The Friend Zone

ClanofLams wrote: »

Conor Fitz has been excellent. I would go with Carty this week though, he had a poor game last week but he still had a couple of nice breaks and it was only his second game. Think he’s tougher to defend against than Fitzgerald is at the moment. Certainly not saying he’s untouchable and Conor Fitz might take the jersey if Carty doesn’t improve soon but Carty the right option this week imo.

Would maybe start Robertson McCoy, Bealham came back against Leinster and got injured after five minutes so think it might be better to have him for the last twenty five.

Would you have Fitz on the bench though or leave him out? Very good point on McCoy and bealham would agree with that, McCoy has played well recently too

ClanofLams

Mul, it's over

Wegians89 wrote: »

Would you have Fitz on the bench though or leave him out? Very good point on McCoy and bealham would agree with that, McCoy has played well recently too

Oh sorry yeah, Conor Fitz on bench for sure.

its_phil

Mul, it's over

Wegians89 wrote: »

Don’t think you need to start Fitz but he should be on the bench at the least

Agree with that

connachta

Godwin and Robb and their experience/power absolutely needed vs Toulouse
And if it was so obvious I'm wrong, just explain why C.Fitz wasn't on the teamsheet vs Montpellier before Niyi/Healy were pulled out?

realhorrorshow

I think both

22. Fitzgerald
23. Robb/Farrell/Daly

and

22. Robb/Farrell/Daly
23. Stephen Fitz/Porch/whoever

are viable options that the coaches will consider

connachta

realhorrorshow wrote: »

I think both

22. Fitzgerald
23. Robb/Farrell/Daly

and

22. Robb/Farrell/Daly
23. Stephen Fitz/Porch/whoever

are viable options that the coaches will consider

One of Farrell/Robb/Godwin can't be in the 23 if there's C.Fitz. Friends love to play without "pure" back-up 10, and I hope he sticks with all these guys vs Toulouse

connachta

realhorrorshow wrote: »

I think both

22. Fitzgerald
23. Robb/Farrell/Daly

and

22. Robb/Farrell/Daly
23. Stephen Fitz/Porch/whoever

are viable options that the coaches will consider

Robb 22 for Centre and Godwin 23 covering wing and outhalf is more likely, as S.Fitz will start FB in all likelihood (no Leader, no TOH)

Diabhal Beag

connachta wrote: »

Godwin and Robb and their experience/power absolutely needed vs Toulouse
And if it was so obvious I'm wrong, just explain why C.Fitz wasn't on the teamsheet vs Montpellier before Niyi/Healy were pulled out?

He played a lot of minutes so far and has proven himself to be more than adequate cover for Carty. Horwitz is a dud. Godwin is needed elsewhere.

connachta

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

He played a lot of minutes so far and has proven himself to be more than adequate cover for Carty. Horwitz is a dud. Godwin is needed elsewhere.

I've never ever said he wasn't good.
I've never talked about Horwitz (who's not rated at all it seems btw)


I'm talking about Carty playing 80 as he did 2 weeks ago. And Godwin is able, well able to cover 10 if needed. And Robb, powerhouse we desperately need would be in the 23.