Connacht Team Talk Thread V - The Friend Zone

Faugheen · 22-11-2019 2:33pm

Angus Lloyd on the bench is interesting.

Has he even played for Connacht this year?

KBurke85 · 22-11-2019 3:10pm

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Faugheen wrote: »

Angus Lloyd on the bench is interesting.

Has he even played for Connacht this year?

Not so far this season. Probably would have been more involved if Marmion had gone to the world cup.

MarinersBlues · 22-11-2019 4:13pm

Mul, it's over

Not a bad team.

I don't think we will be beaten by the 23 point hcap with Ladbrokes.
14/1 to win it with PaddyPower seems more than reasonable as well.

What's up with Bundee?
Is it just saving minutes for the interpors and other Euro games?

Wegians89 · 22-11-2019 4:15pm

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MarinersBlues wrote: »

Not a bad team.

I don't think we will be beaten by the 23 point hcap with Ladbrokes.
14/1 to win it with PaddyPower seems more than reasonable as well.

What's up with Bundee?
Is it just saving minutes for the interpors and other Euro games?

A knock in training I heard

Shefwedfan · 22-11-2019 5:04pm

What’s the story with Carty on the bench?

KBurke85 · 22-11-2019 5:20pm

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Shefwedfan wrote: »

What’s the story with Carty on the bench?

Fitzgerald is playing well and deserves a chance.

MarinersBlues · 22-11-2019 5:22pm

Mul, it's over

Shefwedfan wrote: »

What’s the story with Carty on the bench?

Conor Fitz is playing really well this season, Carty not so muchin the last two games.
Real competition going on at OH.
Indeed most positions, outside the front row, don't have a clear 1st choice this year.

Shefwedfan · 22-11-2019 5:23pm

KBurke85 wrote: »

Fitzgerald is playing well and deserves a chance.

Fair play to Connacht

ClanofLams · 22-11-2019 5:33pm

Mul, it's over

Yeah I’m as big a Carty fan as anyone but nice to see form having consequences, hopefully it might translate to international level with the new reign.

b.gud · 22-11-2019 8:54pm

Anyone know what channel the match is on tomorrow? Bt1 is showing the premier league, bt2 is showing cheats vs Ospreys and bt3 is showing Treviso vs Saints

Squidgy Black · 22-11-2019 9:04pm

b.gud wrote: »

Anyone know what channel the match is on tomorrow? Bt1 is showing the premier league, bt2 is showing cheats vs Ospreys and bt3 is showing Treviso vs Saints

BT sport extra, it'll be on the red button I think

testtech05 · 22-11-2019 9:04pm

Some Like It TOH

b.gud wrote: »

Anyone know what channel the match is on tomorrow? Bt1 is showing the premier league, bt2 is showing cheats vs Ospreys and bt3 is showing Treviso vs Saints

It's on bt sport extra 2 I think. One of the bt extra channels anyway

MarinersBlues · 22-11-2019 9:18pm

Mul, it's over

You have to be joking me!
I bought the sports extra package on NowTV for tomorrow and the game isn't on it!

b.gud · 22-11-2019 10:45pm

testtech05 wrote: »

It's on bt sport extra 2 I think. One of the bt extra channels anyway

Yep it's bt extra 2 just saw it at the end of the Ulster game

Digifriendly · 23-11-2019 12:19am

Anyone know how to record from BT Sport red button?

TimHorton · 23-11-2019 10:04am

KBurke85 wrote: »

Fitzgerald is playing well and deserves a chance.

Fitz has has his chance and had now displaced Carty , His confidence must have taken a hit when an injured Carberry was selected ahead of him in Japan.

ClanofLams · 23-11-2019 10:45am

Mul, it's over

TimHorton wrote: »

Fitz has has his chance and had now displaced Carty , His confidence must have taken a hit when an injured Carberry was selected ahead of him in Japan.

Seriously lad get over Carty stealing your girlfriend or whatever. Pathetic stuff.

connachta · 23-11-2019 11:30am

I reassed my position. Friend picked his pack to stabilze setpieces
McCoy/McCabe can do the scrum job, Roux/Copeland will add grint in contact/mauls
But mobility (tackling rate) and lineout jumps are question marks

Back selection : Daly has to avoid ANY knock-ons, Healy plays his 1st game in a while out-of-position (can be interesting though), and C.Fitz has never played in such a level, has to be clinical in every single kicks, tackles, decisions. Huge ask for him.

I do think the main target is the TBP. the point is to throw every pieces of energy to score 2 tries before the 50th minute, than have Bealham/Boyle/Robb/Carty in, and the Irish fighting spirit vs desinterested Stade to get the 2 next scores.

Shefwedfan · 23-11-2019 1:02pm

Sorry I am not trying to burst your bubble but this thread is full of Connacht getting a TBP, why do people think Toulouse are going to let 4 tries in at home? just looking at results and I don't see them letting loads of scores in at home.....

Leinster players all mentioned it is a really difficult pitch to play on last season.....

MarinersBlues · 23-11-2019 1:16pm

Mul, it's over

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Sorry I am not trying to burst your bubble but this thread is full of Connacht getting a TBP, why do people think Toulouse are going to let 4 tries in at home? just looking at results and I don't see them letting loads of scores in at home.....

Leinster players all mentioned it is a really difficult pitch to play on last season.....

It's only really one poster on about a tbp while losing the game.

It could become a shootout - but most of the comments here are about a decent showing maybe a lbp and I think everyone agrees a win would be quite excellent.

My personal opinion - we have been completely underestimated going into this, I would have the handicap at 12 or 14 points to Toulouse.
Anything better than that would be really good and a great confidence boost.

Shefwedfan · 23-11-2019 1:20pm

MarinersBlues wrote: »

It's only really one poster on about a tbp while losing the game.

It could become a shootout - but most of the comments here are about a decent showing maybe a lbp and I think everyone agrees a win would be quite excellent.

My personal opinion - we have been completely underestimated going into this, I would have the handicap at 12 or 14 points to Toulouse and anything better than that would be really good and a great confidence boost.

Looking at it as a neutral I can't see Connacht picking up a TBP....sorry but Toulouse are no mugs....

I think a LBP is more of a target.....maybe Toulouse have underestimated Connacht, will have no idea till the game kicks off

Getting into a shoot out with Toulouse and to be honest it could be a landslide results and it won't be in favour of Connacht......

connachta · 23-11-2019 1:30pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Looking at it as a neutral I can't see Connacht picking up a TBP....sorry but Toulouse are no mugs....

I think a LBP is more of a target.....maybe Toulouse have underestimated Connacht, will have no idea till the game kicks off

Getting into a shoot out with Toulouse and to be honest it could be a landslide results and it won't be in favour of Connacht......

A TBP is more likely than a LBP because Connacht have the back-line/back-row firepower to open up any defence. If we score twice before the hour of game, and Toulouse run out of reach, they might be a bit disinterested and the bench is able to score the next 2.

Somthing like 27-12 HT, 46-24 FT is IMO more possible than the tight low-scoring game

MarinersBlues · 23-11-2019 1:35pm

Mul, it's over

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Looking at it as a neutral I can't see Connacht picking up a TBP....sorry but Toulouse are no mugs....

Again nobody is REALLY saying that.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I think a LBP is more of a target.....

Agreed - thats pretty much what I said

Shefwedfan wrote: »

maybe Toulouse have underestimated Connacht, will have no idea till the game kicks off

Yep no way of knowing what Toulouse are thinking - I was more talking about the media and bookmakers

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Getting into a shoot out with Toulouse and to be honest it could be a landslide results and it won't be in favour of Connacht......

It wouldn't be a strategy I would choose but it is the only way a TBP is possible, that was what you posted about.

I think Connachta has a point in his interpretation of the selection. We will be looking to use our set piece. I don't expect the backs to be used much and we may continue the mauling strategy from last week.

Wegians89 · 23-11-2019 1:37pm

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Shefwedfan wrote: »

Looking at it as a neutral I can't see Connacht picking up a TBP....sorry but Toulouse are no mugs....

I think a LBP is more of a target.....maybe Toulouse have underestimated Connacht, will have no idea till the game kicks off

Getting into a shoot out with Toulouse and to be honest it could be a landslide results and it won't be in favour of Connacht......

I think it’s just that realistically getting one point from the match would be a good result, if that’s a lbp or a tbp don’t think it makes much difference. A Toulouse side could show up who are by in the mood for defending but put 60 odd points on Connacht, in that case Connacht could sneak a few easy tries.

Realistically though as you said it’s an extremely tough place to go and I think Connacht will give a good go but get nothing in terms of match points. Maybe a 10-15 point loss

MarinersBlues · 23-11-2019 1:38pm

Mul, it's over

connachta wrote: »

A TBP is more likely than a LBP because Connacht have the back-line/back-row firepower to open up any defence. If we score twice before the hour of game, and Toulouse run out of reach, they might be a bit disinterested and the bench is able to score the next 2.

Somthing like 27-12 HT, 46-24 FT is IMO more possible than the tight low-scoring game

MarinersBlues wrote: »

Again nobody is REALLY saying that.

Damn it Connachta!

:D:D I was trying to give you a way out!

That is not what will happen and it is completely counter to your points this morning.

connachta · 23-11-2019 1:45pm

MarinersBlues wrote: »

Damn it Connachta! :D:D I was trying to give you a way out!

That is not what will happen and it is completely counter to your points this morning.

For me this is not at all a contradiction : big forwards, less mobility so a lot of try conceeded, but good plateform for our backs, and the Maul/Scrum in extra-time to grab the TBP!

connachta · 23-11-2019 1:47pm

Wegians89 wrote: »

I think it’s just that realistically getting one point from the match would be a good result, if that’s a lbp or a tbp don’t think it makes much difference. A Toulouse side could show up who are by in the mood for defending but put 60 odd points on Connacht, in that case Connacht could sneak a few easy tries.

Realistically though as you said it’s an extremely tough place to go and I think Connacht will give a good go but get nothing in terms of match points. Maybe a 10-15 point loss

Yes!!

MarinersBlues · 23-11-2019 1:51pm

Mul, it's over

connachta wrote: »

For me this is not at all a contradiction : big forwards, less mobility so a lot of try conceeded, but good plateform for our backs, and the Maul/Scrum in extra-time to grab the TBP!

Ah! So he picked the best forwards we have in order to concede tries, get hammered, and lull Toulouse into a false sense of security.
Pounce late scoring 4 tries but still lose by more than 8 points.

Not long now until we see if that's how it pans out

Any match point would be great.

Diabhal Beag · 23-11-2019 1:56pm

I'd be content enough with a 7 try win tbh. Don't think we have the players available to put 10 trys past Toulouse in France.

connachta · 23-11-2019 1:59pm

MarinersBlues wrote: »

Ah! So he picked the best forwards we have in order to concede tries, get hammered, and lull Toulouse into a false sense of security.
Pounce late scoring 4 tries but still lose by more than 8 points.

Not long now until we see if that's how it pans out

Any match point would be great.

I said score 2 before an hour!

Connacht Team Talk Thread V - The Friend Zone

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