The Jumpers are Coming 2018/19

The Mig

abarkie wrote: »

Let's hope the ferry doesn't get cancelled

She's there. Cantered on the track this morning

RivetingRoger

she will be 3/1 for the CH by Sunday

longshotvalue

RivetingRoger wrote: »

she will be 3/1 for the CH by Sunday

Should have a zero added. Her current price is madness.

RivetingRoger

aidankkk wrote: »

Should have a zero added. Her current price is madness.

Why u think so Aidan? Its not like it has much to beat

longshotvalue

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Why u think so Aidan? Its not like it has much to beat

for the champion I mean ..

akelly02

aidankkk wrote: »

for the champion I mean ..

Its due to nothing else being worth a sh1te in that division and BD getting bet, they need something to make a splash

RivetingRoger

i mean the CH too Aidan
I fail to understand your negativity towards Laurina
Don't get me wrong, I understand it being a relative novice at this level etc, however, I would say its the ONLY horse in the betting capable of putting it up to BD and as such, I would think a price of say 4/1 would be VERY appealing if that price on the day
Its a very weak CH division lately
The days of Hurrican Fly V Jezki V Our Conor are gone

longshotvalue

RivetingRoger wrote: »

i mean the CH too Aidan
I fail to understand your negativity towards Laurina
Don't get me wrong, I understand it being a relative novice at this level etc, however, I would say its the ONLY horse in the betting capable of putting it up to BD and as such, I would think a price of say 4/1 would be VERY appealing if that price on the day
Its a very weak CH division lately
The days of Hurrican Fly V Jezki V Our Conor are gone

Im never going to fancy anything at that price this far out, but she should be a longer price than Verdana Blue/Sharjah/ and Melon for sure.

I mean she has basically beaten nothing of note whatsoever. Nearly all the horses she has beaten haven't won since or haven't been seen.

That said my brother has a contact in mullins that said the last 2 years Penhill couldn't be beat ( and i ignored him), the same contact has been saying this year that Laurina is a monster and wins the CH (and well before she was her current price). Again im ignoring that this year .

irish_major

I have a better chance in the champion hurdle than PM

Shemale

irish_major wrote: »

I have a better chance in the champion hurdle than PM

Saddle up so

madmoose

Black Op back hurdling with the Cleeve next up

abarkie

aidankkk wrote: »

Should have a zero added. Her current price is madness.

Easy solution

Hit the lay button

No opinion from me

abarkie

irish_major wrote: »

I have a better chance in the champion hurdle than PM

As long as you can do the weight.

I can't

Dr. Bre

Where’s mick jazz these days ?

abarkie

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Where’s mick jazz these days ?

Didnt it get sold to race in USA - might be wrong

RivetingRoger

abarkie wrote: »

Didnt it get sold to race in USA - might be wrong

U thinking of clarcam?

NaiveMelodies

Johner wrote: »

I fancy Elixer Du Nutz tomorrow in the Tolworth, I think it should be favourite. Looks a completely different horse this season, hopefully the ground won’t be too much of an issue.

Nice shout

Johner

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Nice shout

Battled well in the end!

NaiveMelodies

Johner wrote: »

Battled well in the end!

Very. Ballymore might be a better route than Supreme?

Rathhill v dissapointing.

Johner

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Very. Ballymore might be a better route than Supreme?

Rathhill v dissapointing.

Tizzard said after they’d probably keep him at 2miles. Will run his race where ever he goes at Cheltenham but you’d imagine he’ll find a few too good in either race.

BumperD

https://www.racingpost.com/news/get-involved/tom-segal-kicks-off-the-cheltenham-countdown-with-a-festival-qa/360107

Toms thoughts not that I’d follow

Johner

Anyone hear anything about a Mullins horse called Passageway? Won a Punchestown bumper last April that is turning out to be a decent enough race but hasn't been seen since.

RivetingRoger

BumperD wrote: »

https://www.racingpost.com/news/get-involved/tom-segal-kicks-off-the-cheltenham-countdown-with-a-festival-qa/360107

Toms thoughts not that I’d follow

That Liam Vautour lad seems a good lad.........cough cough...........

Dumb Irish's AP book is the biggest load of codswallop i have ever read mind!

BumperD

RivetingRoger wrote: »

That Liam Vault tour lad seems a good lad.........cough cough...........

Dumb Irish's AP book is the biggest load of codswallop i have ever read mind!

I did laugh at that ap book, if it was real the last place he’d be is online looking for advice

The Mig

Master Dino out for the season!

The Rooster

1/14 on favourite Queens Cave (David Pipe) turned over at Ayr 1.25!
Pulled up approaching last when well beaten.

The Rooster

Irish trainer John McConnell has sent two to Ayr today:

3.10 Bold Emperor
3.45 Gracemeadow

Coming down in prices, now at 5/2 and 10/3. Both second favourites. Both have Sean Bowen on board. Don't know anything else about them or their opponents, but maybe worth 1 pt singles and double.

EDIT/UPDATE
The first came into 2/1 SP and was quite unlucky. Just edged by a 14/1 shot with little form.
The second drifted to 8/1 SP and was well beaten into third.

RivetingRoger

Le Richbourg for the JLT
Defil for the Arkle

Make sense???

RivetingRoger

BumperD wrote: »

I did laugh at that ap book, if it was real the last place he’d be is online looking for advice

How did your quote change my original post Bumper?!?!?!

The Mig

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Le Richbourg for the JLT
Defil for the Arkle

Make sense???

Le Richbourg was outstayed in the Drinmore over 2m4f and looked impressive over 2m at Xmas in Leop. Nothing wrong with having 2 darts at the Arkle under the same ownership

RivetingRoger

There is when it means I don't know which one to back!!!!
Unless the ground comes up good in which case I will back Lalor!!!

Gringo180

The Rooster wrote: »

1/14 on favourite Queens Cave (David Pipe) turned over at Ayr 1.25!
Pulled up approaching last when well beaten.

Pipe couldnt train rain to fall.

NaiveMelodies

The Mig wrote: »

Le Richbourg was outstayed in the Drinmore over 2m4f and looked impressive over 2m at Xmas in Leop. Nothing wrong with having 2 darts at the Arkle under the same ownership

Probably whats going to happen to be fair.

Defi's loss was fairly strange though, maybe worth another go over the trip with a bit more cover.. bit of a bridle merchant perhaps.

RivetingRoger

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Probably whats going to happen to be fair.

Defi's loss was fairly strange though, maybe worth another go over the trip with a bit more cover.. bit of a bridle merchant perhaps.

That race screamed out Arkle for me
Defil looks absolutely class again, its great to see
The sub 2Miler is made for it I would think
Its jumping fences like a stag

RivetingRoger

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Probably whats going to happen to be fair.

Defi's loss was fairly strange though, maybe worth another go over the trip with a bit more cover.. bit of a bridle merchant perhaps.

Hope not
Cant separate them in my head !

Good ground tho and Lalor probably beats both if last time at Cheltenham is anything to go by

WicklowBrave

Johner wrote: »

Anyone hear anything about a Mullins horse called Passageway? Won a Punchestown bumper last April that is turning out to be a decent enough race but hasn't been seen since.

He's dead.

RivetingRoger

WicklowBrave wrote: »

He's dead.

Wickla doing his best Barbara Royle impression when she breaks the news to Dave's Ma that the Queen Mother is dead :D

Jocelyn...the queen mother......she's dead.............

WicklowBrave

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Wickla doing his best Barbara Royle impression when she breaks the news to Dave's Ma that the Queen Mother is dead :D

Jocelyn...the queen mother......she's dead.............

LMAO!

I did think after I posted I was a bit blunt. Sorry, let me try again...

Sadly, he is no longer with us.

In all seriousness, he was a horse I liked too. Passageway, Rapid Escape and Hollowgraphic were three I was looking forward to that have died. Tis a b*llocks.

HarshOstrich

WicklowBrave wrote: »

LMAO!

I did think after I posted I was a bit blunt. Sorry, let me try again...

Sadly, he is no longer with us.

In all seriousness, he was a horse I liked too. Passageway, Rapid Escape and Hollowgraphic were three I was looking forward to that have died. Tis a b*llocks.

It’s always the good ones that die and general tufto and peat the feat still get plod around after 100 races.

The Mig

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Probably whats going to happen to be fair.

Defi's loss was fairly strange though, maybe worth another go over the trip with a bit more cover.. bit of a bridle merchant perhaps.

Yeah maybe hit the front too soon and lostintraslation just grinded it out up the hill. Arkle could turn out to be a cracker of a race if all turned up compared to recent renewals.

BumperD

RivetingRoger wrote: »

How did your quote change my original post Bumper?!?!?!

You have me there

I didn’t change anything!

Johner

WicklowBrave wrote: »

LMAO!

I did think after I posted I was a bit blunt. Sorry, let me try again...

Sadly, he is no longer with us.

In all seriousness, he was a horse I liked too. Passageway, Rapid Escape and Hollowgraphic were three I was looking forward to that have died. Tis a b*llocks.

Sickened, my aul lad bred him. Have a full brother at home and the mare still. Still a kick in the teeth as he could have boosted the page and was potentially very good. Ah well.

WicklowBrave

Johner wrote: »

Sickened, my aul lad bred him. Have a full brother at home and the mare still. Still a kick in the teeth as he could have boosted the page and was potentially very good. Ah well.

Ah gutted for ye. He broke down back in the summer. Showed a lot of promise in his bumper. Just out of curiosity, what's his brother like?

BumperD

WicklowBrave wrote: »

LMAO!

I did think after I posted I was a bit blunt. Sorry, let me try again...

Sadly, he is no longer with us.

In all seriousness, he was a horse I liked too. Passageway, Rapid Escape and Hollowgraphic were three I was looking forward to that have died. Tis a b*llocks.

Hollowgraphic, he was ante post fav for the bumper 6/1 losing him was gutting

BumperD

Johner wrote: »

Sickened, my aul lad bred him. Have a full brother at home and the mare still. Still a kick in the teeth as he could have boosted the page and was potentially very good. Ah well.

That’s rough Joher but the page will read full brother to the unbeaten passageway

RivetingRoger

BumperD wrote: »

You have me there

I didn’t change anything!

Have a look back, when you quoted it went from Liam Vautour to Liam Vault Tour.....!

RivetingRoger

The Mig wrote: »

Yeah maybe hit the front too soon and lostintraslation just grinded it out up the hill. Arkle could turn out to be a cracker of a race if all turned up compared to recent renewals.

Just looked to me like Defil needed shorter......ie....the arkle! Perfect distance for him. he is 10/1 now for it, wish to God I could trust my instinct and back him but with no NRNB I just cant yet

Same with Apples Jade, currently 6/5 or 5/4 with diff firms for the Mares. If I could be 100% certain she was gonna run in it then a double with Altior is buying money, but until it goes NRNB I cant, and you know the second it goes NRNB the odds will disappear

I wonder, if UDS runs well this weekend, and given the ryanair looks like one of the strongest races at the festival this year, might the O'Connell's be tempted to get WPM to run UDS in the Champion Chase, and if that happens, might FP go Ryanair and let UDS have a clean crack at Altior on soft ground in March.

Johner

WicklowBrave wrote: »

Ah gutted for ye. He broke down back in the summer. Showed a lot of promise in his bumper. Just out of curiosity, what's his brother like?

Not half as nice as Passageway unfortunately, his half brother by Califet(just turned 4) we have looks a lovely horse. He is down with Colin Bowe and will probably run in a P2P in the second half of this year.

He bred some lovely horses in 2013, Passageway, Court Liability, Benny's Bridge and The Gunner Murphy. Court Liabilities dam got colic a few years ago and died but CL looks a nice prospect. Benny's Bridge will be a good horse when he learns to settle.

I know Joseph loves The Gunner Murphy, he looks talented but a bit ungenuine so far.

Angliru

Samcro more than less confirmed going to take the rest of the season off. At least O Leary said he's going chasing next year regardless what happens. About bloody time and might get a decent price for the JLT or RSA for 2020 now.

BumperD

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Have a look back, when you quoted it went from Liam Vautour to Liam Vault Tour.....!

Ah I see it now that is weird , “wasn’t me” your honor, a glitch on the board