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Clerical Officer 2018 in Revenue - Customs Trade Facilitation

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    #482
    Dubted
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭Dubted


    Mike Foxtrot wrote: »
    Well its likely they need to recruiting a certain number regardless and train them up due to the lack of experience in customs.

    1992/1993 was the last time VAT at the point of entry was applied to import from countries in the (now) EU. The knowledge, skills and experience are now limited to a small number of staff dealing with non-EU countries and given the Britain is Irelands largest trading partners i highly doubt they're going to wait until the 11th hour to start hiring staff.

    Even with the speed of this campaign, revenue have said they will only have 1/3 of the required staff hired and trained by march 29th in the event of a no deal brexit.

    Yeah..that makes sense...I know it could go either way...but from some earlier posts they are probably short anyway...and the talk of a deal at the moment is a 'bare bones' customs are arrangement which would likely mean some regulatory checks albeit minimal east/west between GB and Irl during any transition...just hope it wasn't a waster of time..I'm in first batch top 20 btw.


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    #483
    November Golf
    Registered Users Posts: 973 ✭✭✭November Golf


    Dubted wrote: »
    Mike Foxtrot wrote: »
    Well its likely they need to recruiting a certain number regardless and train them up due to the lack of experience in customs.

    1992/1993 was the last time VAT at the point of entry was applied to import from countries in the (now) EU. The knowledge, skills and experience are now limited to a small number of staff dealing with non-EU countries and given the Britain is Irelands largest trading partners i highly doubt they're going to wait until the 11th hour to start hiring staff.

    Even with the speed of this campaign, revenue have said they will only have 1/3 of the required staff hired and trained by march 29th in the event of a no deal brexit.

    Yeah..that makes sense...I know it could go either way...but from some earlier posts they are probably short anyway...and the talk of a deal at the moment is a 'bare bones' customs are arrangement which would likely mean some regulatory checks albeit minimal east/west between GB and Irl during any transition...just hope it wasn't a waster of time..I'm in first batch top 20 btw.

    Well revenue are on about hiring 700 staff in customs so top 20 in batch 1... id say you've a safe bet as long as you get through the clearance and reference checks


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    #484
    weadick
    Registered Users Posts: 709 ✭✭✭weadick


    Mike Foxtrot wrote: »
    Well revenue are on about hiring 700 staff in customs so top 20 in batch 1... id say you've a safe bet as long as you get through the clearance and reference checks

    I hope you're right. I'm top 50 batch one for Cork...


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    #485
    Diarmaid38
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭Diarmaid38


    weadick wrote: »
    I hope you're right. I'm top 50 batch one for Cork...

    Hey, I number 26 in Rosslare, just wondering where you heard that they were taking on 700?


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    #486
    fly_agaric
    Registered Users Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Diarmaid38 wrote: »
    Hey, I number 26 in Rosslare, just wondering where you heard that they were taking on 700?

    (Probably shouldn't be speaking for someone else!) but figure has been in the media. From July 2018
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/brexit-1-000-new-customs-and-veterinary-inspectors-to-be-hired-1.3569403

    "Speaking after a special Cabinet meeting in Derrynane House, Co Kerry, the Taoiseach said the British government will be expected to honour its “cast iron guarantee” of the so-called backstop arrangement.

    At the meeting, Ministers agreed to hire 700 additional customs officials to be deployed at ports and airports, and 300 extra staff to carry out checks on agricultural produce and animals travelling between Ireland and the UK after Brexit.

    A Government statement said “significant” investment will also be needed to upgrade existing infrastructure at ports and airports, in particular Rosslare and Dublin Ports"

    So assumption would be that 700 is the most they can recruit (could be fewer though? don't know anything about this competition).


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    #487
    November Golf
    Registered Users Posts: 973 ✭✭✭November Golf


    Ah said above. However i don't know how many of the "hire 700 additional customs officials" will be at CO grade as they are running internal competitions for EO's, AO's and HEO grades also.

    If they go by the 50/50 rule (internal/external), you would expect about 300/350 to be external candidates from this competition.


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    #488
    weadick
    Registered Users Posts: 709 ✭✭✭weadick


    Anyone who applied for Cork hear anything?


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    #489
    Vologda69
    Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Vologda69


    weadick wrote: »
    Anyone who applied for Cork hear anything?

    Sister is oom 2 for Cork. Had Dublin as second preference. They rang last week offering Dublin and said they were not recruiting for Cork yet. Told her they would be in touch in a few weeks.


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    #490
    November Golf
    Registered Users Posts: 973 ✭✭✭November Golf


    Hi All,

    FYI....

    https://m.independent.ie/business/brexit/over-3000-apply-for-200-jobs-in-customs-37439657.html


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    #491
    CZ 453
    Registered Users Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    Mike Foxtrot wrote: »
    Hi All,

    FYI....

    https://m.independent.ie/business/brexit/over-3000-apply-for-200-jobs-in-customs-37439657.html

    This is not really good for anyone in Batch 2.


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    #492
    fungijay
    Registered Users Posts: 35 ✭fungijay


    CZ 453 wrote: »
    This is not really good for anyone in Batch 2.

    All really depends on what if any withdrawal agreement is made, rumours had the UK in a full customs agreement until the transition is over this weekend, that would put an end to all hiring I think. But today its all back up in the air.


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    #493
    justin_lucas
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭justin_lucas


    Whats the chances on them informing people that they have reached capacity? In other words will be find out either way? 
    I'm within the seventies from batch one and have my fingers and toes crossed to get a call.


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    #494
    Dalio
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Dalio


    justin_lucas wrote: »
    Whats the chances on them informing people that they have reached capacity? In other words will be find out either way? 
    I'm within the seventies from batch one and have my fingers and toes crossed to get a call.

    I'm not sure exactly they normally open a panel for 2 years from the first people to be appointed until the end. So you won't be told as an individual but at some point, you'll get an idea when the panel ends.


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    #495
    JobHunter2000
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭JobHunter2000


    fungijay wrote: »
    All really depends on what if any withdrawal agreement is made, rumours had the UK in a full customs agreement until the transition is over this weekend, that would put an end to all hiring I think. But today its all back up in the air.
    We're probably the only people in the country cheering on a hard Brexit.


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    #496
    gizmo23
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭gizmo23


    JobHunter2000 wrote: »
    We're probably the only people in the country cheering on a hard Brexit.

    I am glad I am not the only one haha....Genuinely can't see UK staying in our CU as that was one of the two big selling points on brexit .

    It's the not knowing that would annoy you


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    #497
    November Golf
    Registered Users Posts: 973 ✭✭✭November Golf


    Has anyone from batch 2 received results.


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    #498
    CZ 453
    Registered Users Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    Mike Foxtrot wrote: »
    Has anyone from batch 2 received results.

    No. You?


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    #499
    November Golf
    Registered Users Posts: 973 ✭✭✭November Golf


    CZ 453 wrote: »
    Mike Foxtrot wrote: »
    Has anyone from batch 2 received results.

    No. You?

    No. The woman in our room said it could be up to 4 weeks but i don't think she actually knew.

    Did they give any indication to anyone else??


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    #500
    weadick
    Registered Users Posts: 709 ✭✭✭weadick


    Suppose the stuff about us all being training by Jan was a bit off the mark so! :)


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    #501
    gizmo23
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭gizmo23


    weadick wrote: »
    Suppose the stuff about us all being training by Jan was a bit off the mark so! :)

    I am pretty sure that is batch one.

    Batch 2 results would be out near end of November according to a friend.

    If they get called straight to an interview I would be under the assumption that the batch one list will be all used.


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    #502
    MarkElsewhere
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭MarkElsewhere


    Yes, at our test last Wednesday, the woman said it would be late November or early December... I'm still hoping it's a little sooner than that.


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    #503
    revenent
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭revenent


    Everything is purely speculation at this point, hopefully we will hear some info from the person starting with the first 10.


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    #504
    greenb
    Registered Users Posts: 135 ✭✭greenb


    If someone in scores higher in batch 2 interviews than someone who has already passed in batch 1, do they skip the queue?


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    #505
    Heisenberg79
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭Heisenberg79


    greenb wrote: »
    If someone in scores higher in batch 2 interviews than someone who has already passed in batch 1, do they skip the queue?

    I don't think so. They will go first with all people on batch 1.


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    #506
    gizmo23
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭gizmo23


    greenb wrote: »
    If someone in scores higher in batch 2 interviews than someone who has already passed in batch 1, do they skip the queue?

    Nope batch 1 is done and your order of merit is what it is unless of course people drop put so basically can only go up.

    Batch 2 is completely separate


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    #507
    Kenny2079
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Kenny2079


    The first 10 or so have been issued contracts and training start on Monday. (I’m in that group)

    The next group to be taken in will be in Jan.


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    #508
    Kenny2079
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Kenny2079


    greenb wrote: »
    If someone in scores higher in batch 2 interviews than someone who has already passed in batch 1, do they skip the queue?

    No.
    Batch 1 will be offered positions before batch 2.


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    #509
    weadick
    Registered Users Posts: 709 ✭✭✭weadick


    Kenny2079 wrote: »
    The first 10 or so have been issued contracts and training start on Monday. (I’m in that group)

    The next group to be taken in will be in Jan.

    Probably Dublin only I'd imagine?


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    #510
    Dalio
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Dalio


    MarkElsewhere wrote: »
    Yes, at our test last Wednesday, the woman said it would be late November or early December... I'm still hoping it's a little sooner than that.

    Yeah same with us on last Tuesday


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    #511
    Paddy2018
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭Paddy2018


    A friend who has a OOM 19 for Dublin was contacted this morning by Revenue and offered an immediate role in Dublin. She turned it down in the hope that she will be offered her first choice (Wexford) at some later stage. Either they are making offers to an additional amount of candidates or some of the top ten have backed out.


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