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Murphy & Gunn BMW business at Milltown will cease trading

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    No doubt, that site is worth a solid fortune.

    Locations like that are no longer suitable for main dealers anyway. There is no free on- street parking in the vicinity and the road is quite narrow for deliveries. Not alone that traffic in the area is increasing all the time. Winfield which was only a few hundred yards away closed years ago and the Opel Dealership on the Harolds Cross road has also closed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    Wow. I just had my Toyota avensis 07 fully serviced for the NCT 4 weeks ago in there and there wasn't a mention of any closure. That's a real shame as they were the closest authorized Toyota service centre.

    4kwp South East facing PV System. 5.3kwh Weco battery. South Dublin City.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    Wow. I just had my Toyota avensis 07 fully serviced for the NCT 4 weeks ago in there and there wasn't a mention of any closure. That's a real shame as they were the closest authorized Toyota service centre.

    Why have a 13 year old car serviced in a main deaers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    Why have a 13 year old car serviced in a main deaers?

    authorized Toyota service centre

    4kwp South East facing PV System. 5.3kwh Weco battery. South Dublin City.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    authorized Toyota service centre

    Why have a 13 year old car serviced at an authorized Toyota service centre????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    Sure why do anything, ever? Why question people on the internet about stuff that doesn't affect you in the slightest?

    4kwp South East facing PV System. 5.3kwh Weco battery. South Dublin City.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    Sure why do anything, ever? Why question people on the internet about stuff that doesn't affect you in the slightest?

    I can see no rational reason for doing it. Maybe there is something I am missing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    It also happens to be the closest mechanics to my house. Does that help at all?

    4kwp South East facing PV System. 5.3kwh Weco battery. South Dublin City.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    I can see no rational reason for doing it. Maybe there is something I am missing?

    Toyota fixed price servicing is very reasonable. An oil service is less than €160 on most petrol models. Sure why wouldn't you. How much would you save going independent.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    It also happens to be the closest mechanics to my house. Does that help at all?

    Changing your story now. First they were the closest authorised Toyota service centre now they are the closest mechanics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭IrishZeus


    Spanish Inquisition for posting about getting a car serviced.

    Jesus wept.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    Sure why do anything, ever? Why question people on the internet about stuff that doesn't affect you in the slightest?

    Touchy bar steward


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    Changing your story now. First they were the closest authorised Toyota service centre now they are the closest mechanics.

    Oh you caught me your honor! But wait! Turns out the two things are not mutually exclusive! Who would have thought! While I am touched by your interest in my life might I suggest we return to the thread topic?

    4kwp South East facing PV System. 5.3kwh Weco battery. South Dublin City.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    Touchy bar steward

    Good lad

    4kwp South East facing PV System. 5.3kwh Weco battery. South Dublin City.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    Oh you caught me your honor! But wait! Turns out the two things are not mutually exclusive! Who would have thought! While I am touched by your interest in my life might I suggest we return to the thread topic?

    Rubbish.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭have2flushtwice


    Toyota fixed price servicing is very reasonable. An oil service is less than €160 on most petrol models. Sure why wouldn't you. How much would you save going independent.

    160 for an oil change is very reasonable?! Vacuum it out and pump it in from a barrell, 5 mins for a filter they bought for a fiver. I wouldn't go to the main dealer for that.

    Each to their own, my Audi had an oil and fuel change for less and I had barely eaten my breakfast roll!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    160 for an oil change is very reasonable?! Vacuum it out and pump it in from a barrell, 5 mins for a filter they bought for a fiver. I wouldn't go to the main dealer for that.

    Each to their own, my Audi had an oil and fuel change for less and I had barely eaten my breakfast roll!

    €160 is hardly robbery. You wouldn't get it done in a reputable independent workshop with a receipt for much less.

    No Toyota dealer is using a vacuum pump to extract oil.

    You wouldnt go to a main dealer for it, but it's acceptable for €20 less at an indy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭have2flushtwice


    €160 is hardly robbery. You wouldn't get it done in a reputable independent workshop with a receipt for much less.

    No Toyota dealer is using a vacuum pump to extract oil.

    You wouldnt go to a main dealer for it, but it's acceptable for €20 less at an indy.

    An oil change is an oil change whatever way you dess it up.
    Any dealer will take the easiest and quickest method to complete the task. Don't be fooled that they drop the oil, they don't.
    A car is a machine. It doesn't have feelings, you can polish and wax it all you want, and love it till it's last day, but the mechanic doesn't really care that you care, he just has to change the oil. And the supervisor wants to get through the days work, so whatever way is the quickest - do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 433 ✭✭Dia_Anseo


    My Nissan Leaf cost 180 euro for an oil and filter change at main Nissan dealer. Thought that was reasonable. The lads in there are always smiling when I'm paying, very pleasant customer service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    Rubbish.

    Hang on let me check........

    Yes, you are indeed still the most pointless man on the Internet today. Hold your head high.

    4kwp South East facing PV System. 5.3kwh Weco battery. South Dublin City.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Any dealer will take the easiest and quickest method to complete the task. Don't be fooled that they drop the oil, they don't.
    .

    You've never stepped foot in a workshop of a main dealer have you.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,028 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Why would you use a vacuum pump when theres an oil drainer and the car would be on a lift anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭have2flushtwice


    aaakev wrote: »
    You've never stepped foot in a workshop of a main dealer have you.....
    I have, and have you ever had the pressure to get as much through the door each day?
    It's a business not a workshop full of keyboard warriors!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭have2flushtwice


    PsychoPete wrote: »
    Why would you use a vacuum pump when theres an oil drainer and the car would be on a lift anyway

    It doesn't have to be on the lift, wait for a lift to become free or get the oil changed with a pump? Foreman says pump so that's what you do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 433 ✭✭Dia_Anseo


    Hang on let me check........

    Yes, you are indeed still the most pointless man on the Internet today. Hold your head high.
    Phew, I was getting worried it was me !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    I have, and have you ever had the pressure to get as much through the door each day?
    It's a business not a workshop full of keyboard warriors!

    I see it daily, but if never seen corners cut the way you describe. In fact iv seen hours uncharged because the technician spent too much time which is the polar opposite to what you describe. Bit hey, your the man who does it....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭sumo12


    The perception of what goes on in main dealers (or doesn't go on if that's your opinion!) is mind boggling. Main dealer servicing is - generally - very well priced and everything is done as it should be for the most part. Yes standards are better in some dealers than others, I'll agree. I've never seen oil sucked out that's beyond amateur. Little things that are only known to the mechanic working on the same brand day in day out are checked, tightened, cleaned whatever. You never know about it, but it's done, and included in the price. Brand training has improved immeasurably in the last few years - no one knows your car like a main dealer.

    Each to their own, and everyone is entitled to their opinion and to do whatever they want to do with their own cars. Just my 2p worth so please don't troll me, main dealer haters.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    I'd have to agree. Working with a big German manufacturer, our workshop is mystery shopped by the manufacturer a minimum of every 12 weeks, where a real customers car is intercepted pre booking and faults are put into the car for us to find, to ensure every point of the 120 point service check is carried out and there are high consequences for repeat failures.

    Staff training is excellent and our team are for the most part very very good.

    Going to a main dealer, you know you're getting the correct oil and good quality parts, generally a good customer experience and aftercare if there are issues with the car after the service or during the year. Obviously brands and workshops differ but you can usually be confident of what gets done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    main dealers are great for servicing and inspections , they know what to look for and have the full parts library on hand.

    A good mechanic or specialist however is good for tricky faults, they don't have to play by the book and can make tools to do things faster, use 3rd party tools to do things like valve stem seals, don't believe gearbox fluid lasts a lifetime and can make little changes as needed.

    both are pretty essential to the industry , but I have to say that VAG and mercedes do such good main dealer service offers that people would be mad not to use the dealer. a mate had his 2010 e200 serviced for 179 quid by MSL, genuine oil and filters and an inspection, told him about a tie rod end going ropey (which an nct tester had alerted to) and swapped it there for under 60 quid inc genuine part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    I've had VAG cars for the last 20 years and always forked out for main dealer servicing. I'm fairly picky about my cars & servicing and I have to say I've not had anything but very good care and attention - and I have no affiliation to any of them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭sk8board


    The owners of the lot, who previously owned rathdown motors I think, applied at the start of the year to build 55 apartments on the site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    sk8board wrote: »
    The owners of the lot, who previously owned rathdown motors I think, applied at the start of the year to build 55 apartments on the site.

    That was refused....
    It was probably a cynical attempt to add value to that site as bus connects was likely going to butcher it....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,854 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    My brother left a car In with Murphy and Gunn Rathgar for oil service, turned out a few weeks later that the regular mechanic we use , said there was no way the oil was changed. Has been servicing it himself for years now and my car. No way I’m letting them near my car for what they charge and for some apprentice mechanic to do the work. The person that left their newish x5 into bmw Milltown , turns out staff used it for a trip down to Kerry to scuba dive, they left equipment in the back of this car. Some of you here will recall the thread about it ..,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,854 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    main dealers are great for servicing and inspections , they know what to look for and have the full parts library on hand.

    A good mechanic or specialist however is good for tricky faults, they don't have to play by the book and can make tools to do things faster, use 3rd party tools to do things like valve stem seals, don't believe gearbox fluid lasts a lifetime and can make little changes as needed.

    both are pretty essential to the industry , but I have to say that VAG and mercedes do such good main dealer service offers that people would be mad not to use the dealer. a mate had his 2010 e200 serviced for 179 quid by MSL, genuine oil and filters and an inspection, told him about a tie rod end going ropey (which an nct tester had alerted to) and swapped it there for under 60 quid inc genuine part.

    I’d say the services are reasonable, so that they can get people In to try tempt them into newer car and for repairs needed to current car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,448 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    That was refused....
    It was probably a cynical attempt to add value to that site as bus connects was likely going to butcher it....

    THere are no bus routes on RAthgar Avenue and BusConnects is not going to change that! I think you have the wrong location in mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    Marcusm wrote: »
    THere are no bus routes on RAthgar Avenue and BusConnects is not going to change that! I think you have the wrong location in mind.

    I was referring to Rathdown Motors and their recent application for permission for 55 apartments.... that was the comment that I quoted.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    Dia_Anseo wrote: »
    My Nissan Leaf cost 180 euro for an oil and filter change at main Nissan dealer. Thought that was reasonable. The lads in there are always smiling when I'm paying, very pleasant customer service.
    Haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭rev2.0




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭California Dreamer


    Nice ‘87 BMW 6 series sitting in the showroom.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭HappyAsLarE


    Delighted they are closed. Told me I needed €1,200 of repairs for an oil leak. Basically listed out every seal in the engine even though only one seal was bust.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭California Dreamer


    Delighted they are closed. Told me I needed €1,200 of repairs for an oil leak. Basically listed out every seal in the engine even though only one seal was bust.

    You're delighted so many people lost their jobs all because you had 1 issue?

    I see that special place is hell has one more place booked!
    :mad::mad::mad:


  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Delighted they are closed. Told me I needed €1,200 of repairs for an oil leak. Basically listed out every seal in the engine even though only one seal was bust.

    Yeah, that’s not what they told you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭HappyAsLarE


    You're delighted so many people lost their jobs all because you had 1 issue?

    I see that special place is hell has one more place booked!
    :mad::mad::mad:

    Yes, place is better off closed for the common good. The staff are better off than working for a dishonest dealership.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭HappyAsLarE


    JayZeus wrote: »
    Yeah, that’s not what they told you.

    Why would I make it up? I have the quotation still somewhere.

    Edit: here you go. I actually got the figure wrong, it was €1,318.

    I Have attached a copy of the work required on your vehicle the is several oil leaks from the engine.
    Oil is leaking from the following places :
    - Oil filter housing (seals required for this)
    - Dipstick Housing ( one seal required for this)
    - Oil Level sensor ( sensor seal required oil will have to be removed and seal replaced and oil put back into vehicle.
    - Charge air pressure Pipe (Charge air pressure pipe unit needs to be replaced as pipe not available separately)
    - Intercooler pipes leaking ( Seals Required)

    - Front turbo seal sweating this is the smallest leak from the engine

    Send me PM if you want screenshot of the quote.


  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Delighted they are closed. Told me I needed €1,200 of repairs for an oil leak. Basically listed out every seal in the engine even though only one seal was bust.
    Why would I make it up? I have the quotation still somewhere.

    Edit: here you go. I actually got the figure wrong, it was €1,318.

    I Have attached a copy of the work required on your vehicle the is several oil leaks from the engine.
    Oil is leaking from the following places :
    - Oil filter housing (seals required for this)
    - Dipstick Housing ( one seal required for this)
    - Oil Level sensor ( sensor seal required oil will have to be removed and seal replaced and oil put back into vehicle.
    - Charge air pressure Pipe (Charge air pressure pipe unit needs to be replaced as pipe not available separately)
    - Intercooler pipes leaking ( Seals Required)

    - Front turbo seal sweating this is the smallest leak from the engine

    Send me PM if you want screenshot of the quote.

    That's not every seal in the engine, for starters. FAR FROM IT.

    In any case, you need a few seals replaced along with oil and filter, charge air pressure hose and in all honestly, probably other work also. Multiple oil seal leaks don't just happen on their own - so suspect other issues are being masked by leaks and replacing seals is going to be the starting point. If your main source of external leak is from a turbo seal, you might want to ask yourself why the seal has gone there in the first place. Suspect a turbo rebuild may be required also.

    In any case, you weren't quoted all the seals 'even though only one seal was bust'. That's the point.

    You're also talking about an estimate from a main dealer for work on a BMW, right? Champagne taste for a Cider buyer from the looks of things.

    And as for being delighted an employer is gone out of business just before Christmas, well, that's just rotten of you. Good luck with your oil burner.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭HappyAsLarE


    JayZeus wrote: »
    That's not every seal in the engine, for starters. FAR FROM IT.

    In any case, you need a few seals replaced along with oil and filter, charge air pressure hose and in all honestly, probably other work also. Multiple oil seal leaks don't just happen on their own - so suspect other issues are being masked by leaks and replacing seals is going to be the starting point. If your main source of external leak is from a turbo seal, you might want to ask yourself why the seal has gone there in the first place. Suspect a turbo rebuild may be required also.

    In any case, you weren't quoted all the seals 'even though only one seal was bust'. That's the point.

    You're also talking about an estimate from a main dealer for work on a BMW, right? Champagne taste for a Cider buyer from the looks of things.

    And as for being delighted an employer is gone out of business just before Christmas, well, that's just rotten of you. Good luck with your oil burner.

    You are just full of assumptions. That quotation was from 2 years ago. M&G had just replaced the turbo under good will warranty, not the cause of further issues.

    There was only one leak!!!

    The exact cause of the leak was the dipstick tube seal. I replaced this seal myself and 100k Km later all is well. No leaks, no burning.

    Good man with your spray gun of faux insights though.

    Edit: and I stand over my philosophy that dishonest companies can close with collateral damage.


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