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Rachel Allen’s son arrested for €30,000 drugs seizure

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    #992
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    I was convinced that the Allen name and money would have got him off the hook, I'm glad to see it didn't.


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    #993
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    He is going inside and he will be a model prisoner as it is in his interest. When he gets out and hooks up with his old crew he will be wheeling and dealing. Its poor permissive parenting that he is a product of.


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    #994
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Seamai wrote: »
    I was convinced that the Allen name and money would have got him off the hook, I'm glad to see it didn't.

    Maybe there were failed strategies before and maybe the supports and enabilng have been taken away. There is nothing like doing a bit of porridge to waken a lad up.


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    #995
    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,543 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    emeldc wrote: »
    And probably a lot less than 15 months if he does.

    Backdated to November as he served 3 weeks detention. The judge must be bad at Maths. As there 4 weeks in February, 4.5 in January and 4.5 in December.

    So that’s 13 weeks. And depending on what time in November he was held he is getting between.
    10 weeks to 14.5 weeks knocked off before he starts.


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    #996
    ted1
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    Seamai wrote: »
    I was convinced that the Allen name and money would have got him off the hook, I'm glad to see it didn't.

    Surprised his Grandad didn’t take the blame !!


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    #997
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 18,145 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    emeldc wrote: »
    I always thought there was mandatory sentencing of much longer than he got for having drugs for sale and supply. He was as guilty as fcuk and admitted he had received other 'deliveries'. Fcuk him.

    Ya it what you can prove that counts, he can say he killed 10 people, they still have to be able to prove it.

    Anyway he obviously a little **** and deserved a bit of a punishment. Still I don't take much enjoyment out of a kid been jailed for buying some weed online, whoever he is.


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    #998
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    ted1 wrote: »
    Surprised his Grandad didn’t take the blame !!

    I agree but maybe they have learned third time around.
    The first generation builds the wealth
    The second generation enjoys the wealth
    The third generation squanders it...


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    #999
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Harsh enough for dealing grass if you ask me. The law on cannabis needs to be discussed.

    It was illegal to be gay when I was born. Laws change.

    I am sure there will be alot of high fives amongst the haters.... have a nice day. For me it is just a pointless sentence handed down to a middle class kid who probably should have known better. In fairness 10 years ago he could have got ten years as it is over 10k worth of drugs.

    His parents will fork out for the posh prison where all the tax cheats go.

    He will regret all this when he is older.

    People will still be smoking joints nationwide as we speak, nothing has or will change.


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    #1000
    Rockbeast2
    Registered Users Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Rockbeast2


    LOL

    Who is the loser now that got years for plants here?

    Importing/Smuggling drugs and he gets that?

    Did the judge commend him for his entrepenurial spirit?

    Joke sentence.


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    #1001
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 18,145 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    It's grass lads, he not exactly dealing death and destroying society. He's stupid as he knows the law but as with any court cases I see to do with Cannabis, the law is an ass.


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    #1002
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Rockbeast2 wrote: »
    LOL

    Who is the loser now that got years for plants here?

    Importing/Smuggling drugs and he gets that?

    Did the judge commend him for his entrepenurial spirit?

    Joke sentence.

    I thought it was 10 year mandatory for 10k worth of drugs?
    He is getting off soft if it was any other citizen.
    I dont think he is smart enough to learn.


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    #1003
    Rockbeast2
    Registered Users Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Rockbeast2


    rob316 wrote: »
    It's grass lads, he not exactly dealing death and destroying society. He's stupid as he knows the law but as with any court cases I see to do with Cannabis, the law is an ass.

    At least it's not garlic! :)

    Still a joke sentence because of the whole "importing" bit.


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    #1004
    snotboogie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Leia Big Month wrote: »
    So would I be right in assuming that this lads father is no longer involved in the family business?

    As far as I understand, that side of the family have nothing to do with the relish, at least in terms of the day to day, it's another sister and her family (who have a different second name) who manage that.


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    #1005
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Seamai wrote: »
    I was convinced that the Allen name and money would have got him off the hook, I'm glad to see it didn't.

    There is only so much that money will buy. When you have been warned and persist beyond that then then are caught properly then you are properly caught


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    #1006
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 18,145 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    I thought it was 10 year mandatory for 10k worth of drugs?
    He is getting off soft if it was any other citizen.
    I dont think he is smart enough to learn.

    You want to see someone locked up for 10 years for spending 2k on grass that is worth 22k here?

    "Just one person was handed the minimum 10-year sentence for possessing €13k of drugs last year
    That’s out of a total of 142 convicted."

    The mandatory 10 is rarely handed down, even for first time heroin dealers.


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    #1007
    Rockbeast2
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    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    I thought it was 10 year mandatory for 10k worth of drugs?
    He is getting off soft if it was any other citizen.
    I dont think he is smart enough to learn.

    He's well connected as my Cork friends will tell you.

    Another example that sentencing is bizarre in this country unless you are related to someone on RTE...

    * Should be a good few that know the car he was driving around Waterford/Cork in when he was 15. Rachel apparently gives great pocket money.


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    #1008
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    rob316 wrote: »
    You want to see someone locked up for 10 years for spending 2k on grass that is worth 22k here?

    Yes it sends a strong message, Zero Tolerance. One sentence could show how breaking screws your life. possibly saving 1000s of youngsters the same fate.


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    #1009
    Rockbeast2
    Registered Users Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Rockbeast2


    HEY, nobody get me wrong, I don't agree that his life should be ruined because of that, but I do think he should have got a comparable sentence for international drug smuggling as a young lad from Hartstown might...


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    #1010
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 18,145 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Yes it sends a strong message, Zero Tolerance. One sentence could show how breaking screws your life. possibly saving 1000s of youngsters the same fate.

    I'm not sure if you are annoyed because he comes from money or your an idiot and you genuinely believe someone should be jailed for 10 years for cannabis.


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    #1011
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Rockbeast2 wrote: »
    HEY, nobody get me wrong, I don't agree that his life should be ruined because of that, but I do think he should have got a comparable sentence for international drug smuggling as a young lad from Hartstown might...

    My not so smart brother in law got in trouble with the guards (not related to drugs) at an older age and then complains why he cant get an Esta last year to go to my wedding in the Caribbean. Sugar you do in your youth has consequences and repercussion. I am all for this guy being made an example of, he has had so many chances. You made your bed go and lie in it.


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    #1012
    IAMAMORON
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    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Yes it sends a strong message, Zero Tolerance. One sentence could show how breaking screws your life. possibly saving 1000s of youngsters the same fate.

    Yes, like jailing middle class lushes for 15 months is really going to stop the 100,000s of Irish cannabis users having a smoke later?

    Open your eyes and stop being smug about what has happened here. Thinking this is some sort of victory for the war on drugs brigade is really cheap. Sorry.

    I would have more respect for your posts if you just came out and said that it is great to see a middle class kid getting banged up for a change, be at least real with your posts.


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    #1013
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 18,145 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Yes, like jailing middle class lushes for 15 months is really going to stop the 100,000s of Irish cannabis users having a smoke later?

    Open your eyes and stop being smug about what has happened here. Thinking this is some sort of victory for the war on drugs brigade is really cheap. Sorry.

    I would have more respect for your posts if you just came out and said that it is great to see a middle class kid getting banged up for a change, be at least real with your posts.

    Exactly he's bitter a rich kid got a light sentence. When in reality it wasn't light at all


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    #1014
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    rob316 wrote: »
    It's grass lads, he not exactly dealing death and destroying society. He's stupid as he knows the law but as with any court cases I see to do with Cannabis, the law is an ass.

    Do you really think this is the first time he's been caught?


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    #1015
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    Do you really think this is the first time he's been caught?

    How many times was he caught?


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    #1016
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 18,145 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    Do you really think this is the first time he's been caught?

    do you know how many times he has been?


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    #1017
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    rob316 wrote: »
    I'm not sure if you are annoyed because he comes from money or your an idiot and you genuinely believe someone should be jailed for 10 years for cannabis.

    Bit of both, I certainly dont come from the same or close to the same background where everything was handed to me on a plate. Its hard to stay on the straight and narrow all your life but I have managed it. This guy has had every privilege and pandered to his every need and he still cant get anything right.

    Yeah I believe the rich kid who imports €10k of drugs should be treated the same way as the kid from Mulhuddart who imports €10k of the same drugs. I believe in equality in the application of the law. Much the same as Sun Tzu in the art of war, when he had to apply the equality of the law and he sentenced his friend to death he cried. Else law and order would break down.


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    #1018
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    Do you really think this is the first time he's been caught?

    He has had warnings, interventions and he has messed them all up. Time for the hard medicine.


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    #1019
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Bit of both, I certainly dont come from the same or close to the same background where everything was handed to me on a plate. Its hard to stay on the straight and narrow all your life but I have managed it. This guy has had every privilege and pandered to his every need and he still cant get anything right.

    Yeah I believe the rich kid who imports €10k of drugs should be treated the same way as the kid from Mulhuddart who imports €10k of the same drugs. I believe in equality in the application of the law. Much the same as Sun Tzu in the art of war, when he had to apply the equality of the law and he sentenced his friend to death he cried. Else law and order would break down.

    When a kid from Mulhuddart gets busted I think it is a shame. In particular for Cannabis. It is not a serious drug and is not a danger to our society.

    Drugs is not a class issue. Drug abuse does not discriminate, can you say that you do not discriminate?


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    #1020
    jimgoose
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    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    When a kid from Mulhuddart gets busted I think it is a shame. In particular for Cannabis. It is not a serious drug and is not a danger to our society.

    Drugs is not a class issue. Drug abuse does not discriminate, can you say that you do not discriminate?

    I don't think a youngfella from Dublin 15 would've got ten years for this either.


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    #1021
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    rob316 wrote: »
    Exactly he's bitter a rich kid got a light sentence. When in reality it wasn't light at all

    Nope, I believe in equal application of the law. I believe in equal opportunity (not necessarily equal outcome).


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