Rachel Allen’s son arrested for €30,000 drugs seizure

skooterblue2

Seamai wrote: »

Like a pig, boy!

Neep!!!

BattleCorp

T'wud be no harm if he did his fuppin Junior Cert while he is inside.

He could do with some sort of education behind him, he has fcukall as it stands.

tillyfilly

BattleCorp wrote: »

T'wud be no harm if he did his fuppin Junior Cert while he is inside.

He could do with some sort of education behind him, he has fcukall as it stands.

he will probably be a celebrity chef when he gets out anyway

skooterblue2

BattleCorp wrote: »

T'wud be no harm if he did his fuppin Junior Cert while he is inside.

You try reading a colouring book with half a dozen lads looking at you, the same way I look at my mothers roast chicken.

Muahahaha

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

And what’s with his father talking about his “look” and “brand”?

That gave me a laugh too, the dad Issac saying "Japan has 120 million affluent consumers and we feel that Lucca's look and brand could be a really good fit for endorsements"

He is in for some shock if he thinks thats going to work out, Japan is one of the most insular countries in the world and they've a healthy distrust of foreigners. Many foreigners report blatant racism from locals in the streets and even those who have lived decades there and become fluent in the language and customs are never truly accepted into Japanese society. Foreigners are often used as a source of ridicule on Japanese tv.

Super Formula in Japan has lots of of local up and coming racing car drivers within it and thats where the endorsement money will end up. Japanese companies want Japanese racing car drivers associated with their brand, not some Johnny Foreigner from Ireland whose family flogs the paedo relish.

SEPT 23 1989

Big stretch for a kid

Wouldn't wish that on anyone

Isn’t it odd that it’s the women the Allens marry who are the grafters? Myrtle, Darina, Rachel. Any of the Allen men do anything with their lives?

Die Hard 2019

Muahahaha wrote: »

I think the sentence was reasonable enough given the quantity (22k of weed) and that it was his first offence. Justice has to be seen to be done so the judge couldnt just let him walk, there had to be some message sent out to others or else then everyone can just import weed in the post and point at the precedent that has been set. The 15 months will be a wake up call to him without him being inside for ever either so its a happy medium IMO.

Agree that weed should be legalised though thats another argument entirely. Until such time as it is what he did was illegal, end of. The law does need to be reformed but thats no defence right now.

The mandatory minimum should have applied at 10 years. I mean I think drugs are a personal choice and shouldn't be illegal but the law states he gets 19 years.

skooterblue2

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Big stretch for a kid

Wouldn't wish that on anyone

He had his warnings, he had his interventions, the best money could buy.
He knew what he was doing. He knew how much profit he would make.
If he is old enough to formulate a plan he is old enough to take responsibility for his actions.

skooterblue2

Deleted User wrote: »

Isn’t it odd that it’s the women the Allens marry who are the grafters? Myrtle, Darina, Rachel. Any of the Allen men do anything with their lives?

Tim Allen had his own TV show and book that was due for world wide release, prior to that incident.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Muahahaha wrote: »

That gave me a laugh too, the dad Issac saying "Japan has 120 million affluent consumers and we feel that Lucca's look and brand could be a really good fit for endorsements"

He is in for some shock if he thinks thats going to work out, Japan is one of the most insular countries in the world and they've a healthy distrust of foreigners. Many foreigners report blatant racism from locals in the streets and even those who have lived decades there and become fluent in the language and customs are never truly accepted into Japanese society. Foreigners are often used as a source of ridicule on Japanese tv.

Super Formula in Japan has lots of of local up and coming racing car drivers within it and thats where the endorsement money will end up. Japanese companies want Japanese racing car drivers associated with their brand, not some Johnny Foreigner from Ireland whose family flogs the paedo relish.

Yeah, apparently the entire population of Japan is affluent. Talk about living in their own little world. There’s a niche market for white models in Japan (any white person who has an big-eyed animé look can do well) but it’s just that, a niche.

Seamai

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Tim Allen had his own TV show and book that was due for world wide release, prior to that incident.

I remember that series, Rachel was his glamorous assistant.

I suppose Rory O'Connell (Darina's brother) kind of married into the family, how he landed several television series I do not know, he's got zero charisma and is way too precious for his own good.

Muahahaha

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Yeah, apparently the entire population of Japan is affluent. Talk about living in their own little world. There’s a niche market for white models in Japan (any white person who has an big-eyed animé look can do well) but it’s just that, a niche.

haha the niche thing with the Japanese is true. Your comment reminds me of years back in Australia when I worked on a yacht with a London girl who had been a stripper back in the UK. In Australia she was a waitess though as she said Aussie strip clubs are all really low brow with drunken lads offering them $5 to stick beer bottles and bananas up you know where.

She quit Australia soon after as she got recruited by a strip cliub in Toyko whose managers had specifically come to Sydney to recruit girls with pink nipples. Apparently pink nipples are a fetish among many Japanese men, the local women all have brown nipples but the men go crazy for pink ones. She told me that in the job interview the first question was asking her to take off her top and prove that she had pink nipples, without that she was out the door. Once she proved that and a bit of dancing she got the job and made a fortune thereafter. I still see her pop up on Facebook from time to time, she's a solicitor back in the UK now!

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Tim Allen had his own TV show and book that was due for world wide release, prior to that incident.

Off his own bat or on the strength of Darinas popularity?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Muahahaha wrote: »

haha the niche thing with the Japanese is true. Your comment reminds me of years back in Australia when I worked on a yacht with a London girl who had been a stripper back in the UK. In Australia she was a waitess though as she said Aussie strip clubs are all really low brow with drunken lads offering them $5 to stick beer bottles and bananas up you know where.

She quit Australia soon after as she got recruited by a strip cliub in Toyko whose managers had specifically come to Sydney to recruit girls with pink nipples. Apparently pink nipples are a fetish among many Japanese men, the local women all have brown nipples but the men go crazy for pink ones. She told me that in the job interview the first question was asking her to take off her top and prove that she had pink nipples, without that she was out the door. Once she proved that and a bit of dancing she got the job and made a fortune thereafter. I still see her pop up on Facebook from time to time, she's a solicitor back in the UK now!

Japan is such a mad place. I’d like to visit it but I’m not sure I’d enjoy the culture shock.

skooterblue2

Deleted User wrote: »

Off his own bat or on the strength of Darinas popularity?

No, He is a pastry chef in his own right, The TV show was aired. In Ballymaloe fashion it was both information, practical and reproducible. There was supposed to be an American push and it was a great series and book. I was a trainee chef at the time.
I know people who have studied there since the 1980's. You will never get an ex-student to say a bad word about Tim. Look how the company structure changed immediately after that incident and that will tell you all you need to know.

Muahahaha

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Japan is such a mad place. I’d like to visit it but I’m not sure I’d enjoy the culture shock.

Its a crazy place but its not that much of a culture shock. Everything is spotlessly clean and all transport runs on time. Very different food but it is also excellent. Ive been round much of Asia and the only true culture shock I had was in India. Like imagine walking down somewhere like Grafton Street and there are literally stray and un-owned cows strolling the street alongside you. No on dares to touch them because they are holy and the locals feed them to give alms to a Hindu god. Now thats a culture shock!

skooterblue2 wrote: »

He had his warnings, he had his interventions, the best money could buy.
He knew what he was doing. He knew how much profit he would make.
If he is old enough to formulate a plan he is old enough to take responsibility for his actions.

In the lead up to the sentencing trial yesterday he missed some appointments with his probation officer. Seems he thought it was a bit of a laugh. Then he showed up to the drug detox unit Cluain Mhuire in Kildare where upon entry to a very expensive 10 week residential detox course (12k+) he tested positive for cannabis. He is clean now but if he wants weed while he is in prison Im sure he will find it.

cloudatlas

Well I don't believe the sins of the husband and son should be visited on Rachel, not her fault that they are **** wits.

skooterblue2

Muahahaha wrote: »

In the lead up to the sentencing trial yesterday he missed some appointments with his probation officer. Seems he thought it was a bit of a laugh. Then he showed up to the drug detox unit Cluain Mhuire in Kildare where upon entry to a very expensive 10 week residential detox course (12k+) he tested positive for cannabis. He is clean now but if he wants weed while he is in prison Im sure he will find it.

I mean he was doing it for a couple of years in County Cork playing Cat and Mouse games with the drugs squads. I am sure they had a chat with Rachael to see if they could sort it discretely. This offer wasnt availed of and now the costs have to be paid for. Its not something that happened over night and neither will it be fixed overnight with a visit to prison.

smelly sock

At least it wasnt child porn like Tim Allen I suppose.

suicide_circus

smelly sock wrote: »

At least it wasnt child porn like Tim Allen I suppose.

skooterblue2

cloudatlas wrote: »

Well I don't believe the sins of the husband and son should be visited on Rachel, not her fault that they are **** wits.

She married the husband, that was something she chose. She cant complain about her son. She enabled him to have a fast car and loose cash. Which is strange because they are a very thrifty family. If I said I was dropping out of school at the same age I would have been beaten black and blue. You know why? Because there was no Plan B for me. There was no farm, business, trade, civil service or trade union job. It was just get an education and get out.

This dope has squandered every chance and privilege that has been put before him. He has never worked in a kitchen for minimum wage, never shopped in Pennys or never had a summer job. Whos fault is that?

If I give an alcoholic a bottle of whiskey, whos fault is it if he get drunk goes home and beats the crap out of his wife? Am I responsible for enabling him?

Mysterypunter

Rich kid gone wrong. Had loads of chances and didn't take any of them. Real world living might be an eye opener for the little bollix, but I'd say he is just a waster. What is the fascination with this family anyway? Let's cook a dinner and charge people 300 quid.

Muahahaha

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I mean he was doing it for a couple of years in County Cork playing Cat and Mouse games with the drugs squads. I am sure they had a chat with Rachael to see if they could sort it discretely. This offer wasnt availed of and now the costs have to be paid for. Its not something that happened over night and neither will it be fixed overnight with a visit to prison.

ah yeah theres no doubt that Rachel wasnt blind to what was going on. Shanagarry is a small rural community and everyone talks, Ive no doubt she and the family were told by Gardai what he was doing.

Like he 22k of weed he got caught with in the post wasnt his first rodeo and he admitted as much when he said in a Garda interview that he took maybe "3 or 4" other deliveries of weed through the post. Id say the real figure was closer to at least 10 and maybe 12.

He was dealing from the age of about 15 to kids just a couple of years younger than him or a couple of years older than him. At that level he was probably selling 20 euro bags of weed. With 22ks worth thats around 1,200 bags of weed he had to sell to lots and lots of teenagers who get spooked if caught by parents or the Gardai and soon begin talking about where it came from. Its pretty inconceivable that the family didnt know what he was up to given the sheer extent of it.

PowerToWait

Cannabis will be a legitimately traded commodity in this country within 5 years.

The opprobrium meted out in this thread will look even more puritanical then than it does now, to the majority of right thinking people.

Mysterypunter

PowerToWait wrote: »

Cannabis will be a legitimately traded commodity in this country within 5 years.

The opprobrium meted out in this thread will look even more puritanical then than it does now, to the majority of right thinking people.

He is not a veteran stoner with a few joints for himself, he was looking for an easy way out, workshy waster. I'll make a handy few quid and if I get done, the family name will bail me out. The case is far from the worst thing ever done, but its just the stink of entitlement off this family and this kid that is a bigger issue in my mind. He actually sets back the case for legalisation because of his opportunistic attitude as far as I'm concerned, so I don't see how the kid is wronged in this case. Its a light enough sentence

PowerToWait

PowerToWait wrote: »

Cannabis will be a legitimately traded commodity in this country within 5 years.

The opprobrium meted out in this thread will look even more puritanical then than it does now, to the majority of right thinking people.

I think that the majority of right thinking people are appalled that a well to do family would allow a 15 year old child drop out of school with no qualifications and behave as he did.

It would be good if cannabis was legalised. The taxes raised could be ringfenced for drug treatment clinics.

Seamai

I've zero issues with someone smoking the odd spliff or having a space cookie, I'd had the later on several occasions myself but there are dangers involved in long term usage.
That aside the Allen's sell a lifestyle that they think the masses should aspire to. I don't live too far from Shanagarry and have two close friends living there who have little good to say about several members of the family. Personally I've has business dealings in the past with them, they live in a rarefied cocoon and think they are sacred cows and untouchable.

markodaly

Muahahaha wrote: »

Yeah the project will peter out with everyone losing money and getting no returns on Luka's 'potential' $10m a year Formula 1 earnings. The only way he is getting into F1 is if he is somehow the second coming of Ayrton Senna or Michael Schmacher. They used to dominate the field when they were karting and going up the ranks in Formula Ford and Formula 3000, they were just head and shoulders above all the other drivers because of their world class talent. Luka's career to date has not showed that kind of quality, it would normally be evident at a young age.Lewis Hamilton did the same, he was always beating kids 2 or 3 years older than him so his talent was obvious even from when he was 13/14 years of age.

If you dont have the talent the only other way to get into Formula 1 is by becoming a 'pay driver' but that costs mega bucks, eg Canadian billionaire Lawerance Stroll (who part owns brands like Ralph Lauren, Tommy Hilfiger and Michael Kors) paid $80m to buy his son Lance a seat racing with the Williams team. The son was next to useless so his dad then spent over $100m buying the Force India team and he raced for them. That didnt work out so now the father has spent £182m for a 20% stake in Aston Martin and his son Lance will drive for them next year.

Rachel is going to have to do an awful lot of 750 euro dinner parties to pay the millions required just for Luka to become a pay driver. Its just not going to happen and a lot of investors are going to get burnt if they ever think there will be an actual return on their investment.

The begrudgery is dripping of this post like honey off a stick. Christ, we Irish love to stick the knife in.

I have no idea who this guy Luca is, but if he has a dream then fair play going for it. Yet, I suppose unless he wins 5 F1 world championships he must be a failure.

corks finest

Muahahaha wrote: »

ah yeah theres no doubt that Rachel wasnt blind to what was going on. Shanagarry is a small rural community and everyone talks, Ive no doubt she and the family were told by Gardai what he was doing.

Like he 22k of weed he got caught with in the post wasnt his first rodeo and he admitted as much when he said in a Garda interview that he took maybe "3 or 4" other deliveries of weed through the post. Id say the real figure was closer to at least 10 and maybe 12.

He was dealing from the age of about 15 to kids just a couple of years younger than him or a couple of years older than him. At that level he was probably selling 20 euro bags of weed. With 22ks worth thats around 1,200 bags of weed he had to sell to lots and lots of teenagers who get spooked if caught by parents or the Gardai and soon begin talking about where it came from. Its pretty inconceivable that the family didnt know what he was up to given the sheer extent of it.

He was dealing for years