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Rachel Allen’s son arrested for €30,000 drugs seizure

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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,495 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Well he didnt get that flash car emptying grease traps and making short bread cookies. Rachael could have knocked some sense into him and taken the car away and make it more difficult to get drugs.

    So the answer then, is, "no Princess, no I can't prove anything, and I'm bull****ting my hole off about any connection between hard parenting and juvenile delinquency because I have no idea if there is or not, but it sounds like there should be, so I've gone with that and tried to sound like I know what I'm talking about by preaching and sounding morally superior in e hope that no one notices. If they claim it hasn't worked, I'll just get even more condescending and dish out insults."

    Hasn't worked.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    So the answer then, is, "no Princess, no I can't prove anything, and I'm bull****ting my hole off about any connection between hard parenting and juvenile delinquency because I have no idea if there is or not, but it sounds like there should be, so I've gone with that and tried to sound like I know what I'm talking about by preaching and sounding morally superior in e hope that no one notices. If they claim it hasn't worked, I'll just get even more condescending and dish out insults."

    Hasn't worked.

    The proof is in the pudding princess because sugar dumpling is doing porridge.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,495 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    The proof is in the pudding princess because sugar dumpling is doing porridge.

    Ooh, food metaphors! Perhaps an aspiring creative writer?! Did not see that one coming!

    Also, correlation =/= causation. Strike 2.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    and dish out insults."

    Where have I insulted another poster? i am very careful about that now. Where have I directly insulted another poster?


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,495 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Where have I insulted another poster? i am very careful about that now. Where have I directly insulted another poster?

    That is usually where these things go (and you have been insulting to the Allen family) when I highlight claims based on severely flawed logic.

    You may be different, granted; but that would mean backing up.r claims using informed and impartial arguments.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    That is usually where these things go (and you have been insulting to the Allen family) when I highlight claims based on severely flawed logic.

    No, the Allen family are fair game. They are out in the public eye. You want to put your 2 cents on the public pedestal, I have no problem with that but be prepared to take the consequences and repercussions.
    If you point out what I have said that is untrue then I will prostrate myself before you and apologise. The little fupper was caught dealing drugs, Rachael knew about it and didnt take appropriate action.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    That is usually where these things go (and you have been insulting to the Allen family) when I highlight claims based on severely flawed logic.

    You may be different, granted; but that would mean backing up.r claims using informed and impartial arguments.

    Cheffing is different industry to most. Its not all about certification and metrics. Its about who and where you worked and what they said about you. Granted that chefs gossip and what not but it part of the industry. I had heard those stories about young Josh before they came to light. I chose to give the family benefit of the doubt. This F1 nonsense is just an extortion scam.


  • Registered Users Posts: 940 ✭✭✭GHOST MGG


    Cheffing is different industry to most. Its not all about certification and metrics.
    Unfortunately this day and age every decent restaurant wants you to have at least a B.A in culinary arts before they will look at you,regardless of where you have worked..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    GHOST MGG wrote: »
    Unfortunately this day and age every decent restaurant wants you to have at least a B.A in culinary arts before they will look at you,regardless of where you have worked..

    Many of the old timers still using the Cert in Pro cookery and before that it was the city and guilds. Its still about where you worked and what they said about you.

    This gom wouldnt be able to hold a position on a course outside of Cork, like that for three years and complete 2/3 placements.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,495 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    No, the Allen family are fair game. They are out in the public eye. You want to put your 2 cents on the public pedestal, I have no problem with that but be prepared to take the consequences and repercussions.
    If you point out what I have said that is untrue then I will prostrate myself before you and apologise. The little fupper was caught dealing drugs, Rachael knew about it and didnt take appropriate action.

    So you admit to being insulting. The possiblity that the target might be deserving is irrelevant.

    Also, I never said it was untrue. I said it was based on assimptuon, flawed logic and ignorance. You haven't countered that in several posts and I'm guessing you're not going to do so any time soon.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    So you admit to being insulting. The possiblity that the target might be deserving is irrelevant.
    .

    Isn't the reason we are here is because little josh was dishonest and trying to hide his drugs (both cocaine and weed). Isnt the truth what we all want?


  • Registered Users Posts: 470 ✭✭Mrs cockett


    So you admit to being insulting. The possiblity that the target might be deserving is irrelevant.

    Also, I never said it was untrue. I said it was based on assimptuon, flawed logic and ignorance. You haven't countered that in several posts and I'm guessing you're not going to do so any time soon.

    Give it a rest for God's sake


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,495 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Give it a rest for God's sake

    Just responding to the posts.

    I prefer debate and logic to assumption and ingorance and I give people plenty of chances to explain themselves. If they choose to go off topic it takes longer. If you don't like it, tough **** - there are plenty of other threads. Failing that, there's always the ignore button. Use it.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭candycock


    Isn't the reason we are here is because little josh was dishonest and trying to hide his drugs (both cocaine and weed). Isnt the truth what we all want?

    Cocaine and weed and upper and a downer interesting choice for our Josh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    candycock wrote: »
    Cocaine and weed and upper and a downer interesting choice for our Josh.

    Maybe he finds the weed takes the edge off the cocaine for a more plesant high.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,663 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    markodaly wrote: »
    So I suppose he should give up, because you said so. Jaysus, I hope you dont pass on that negative attitude to your own kids if you have any.

    Is he going to make it in F1? Unlikely. Will be make it perhaps as a professional driver elsewhere? More likely. If he gives it a go, falls a tad short but still drives race cars for a decade or so, so ****ing what. At least he can look back when he is older with no regrets saying he gave it a right go. Same as anyone with any dream, but then in Ireland someone with a dream outside of a civil service job or being on the dole, one must have notions about themselves. Tut tut, what will the negihbours think!

    What is it to you, anway. It wont cost you a penny, but I guess you will get the smug satisfaction that someone somewhere out there has 'failed' in life. I guess that makes you happy. Well done, says infantitlly more about you, than him, IMO.

    ah yeah marko proven clueless about the sport yet again you resort to the the lowest common denominator of throwing out personal abuse. Now that says a lot more about you than it does me.

    Fact of the matter is the Allen family are harbouring a paedo and they now have a convicted criminal drug dealer among their ranks and for their third trick they are going to relieve as many investors as they can of 250k each to spend on a dream that is not achievable. But dad Issac has no problems shilling the idea that investors will get a cut of his Formula 1 wages. This is despite him being involved in motor racing and knowing full well that it takes tens of millions to even get a drive in Formula 1. People are going to get relieved out of their money, you might be okay defending that but dont be surprised when others have a problem with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Computer Science Student


    So I didn't read the whole thing. Why are people being so harsh on a 16 year old?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    So I didn't read the whole thing. Why are people being so harsh on a 16 year old?

    He's from a wealthy family.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,524 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    If he's 16, he'd be a minor, wouldn't be named or sent to jail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Water John wrote: »
    If he's 16, he'd be a minor, wouldn't be named or sent to jail.

    He was 18 when caught with the drugs and is 19 now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    So I didn't read the whole thing. Why are people being so harsh on a 16 year old?

    He isnt 16 year old youth. He was an 18 year old man when he was caught and now he is 19. If he can do the crime he can do the time. I am not saying the man isnt entitled to a defence but he was caught red handed. The Allens are bringing in the best lawyers money can buy to prevent him facing up to the consequences.

    You want to see a repeat where a slick solicitor washed the floor with the state prosecutor? Society starts to break down when you have one law for one and another for rich.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    candycock wrote: »
    Cocaine and weed and upper and a downer interesting choice for our Josh.

    Only the best for our Josh, heaven forbid, he would be behind the bus station meeting unsavory characters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    I'd say there's a big leap between possession of a substance, consumption of it and then flying to London to pay for a large amount of drugs in order to traffic them that no parent could foresee that escalation...

    Its not the first time the Ballymaloe company/IT/company credit card has been used for questionable purposes. Once again after the second time, Darina and Tim should have been clamping down and questioning who had access to what resources.


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭aristotle25


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    ah yeah marko proven clueless about the sport yet again you resort to the the lowest common denominator of throwing out personal abuse. Now that says a lot more about you than it does me.

    Fact of the matter is the Allen family are harbouring a paedo and they now have a convicted criminal drug dealer among their ranks and for their third trick they are going to relieve as many investors as they can of 250k each to spend on a dream that is not achievable. But dad Issac has no problems shilling the idea that investors will get a cut of his Formula 1 wages. This is despite him being involved in motor racing and knowing full well that it takes tens of millions to even get a drive in Formula 1. People are going to get relieved out of their money, you might be okay defending that but dont be surprised when others have a problem with it.

    No one in their right mind would put money into something like that. Lets say he does make it, the terms are ridiculous.

    e.g. they want an investment of 250k with a max return of 1m over 10 years. You would take must less risk by investing in shares and you will probably more than double your money over 10 years.

    It needs to be uncapped, so you invest 50k for 1% of all future earnings for 10 years (should be more).

    Its a silly investment really. I would hope there are not too many half-smart people with moeny like that to throw away.
    If they are dumb enough to invest then its hard to defend them, they go into with open eyes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    No one in their right mind would put money into something like that. Lets say he does make it, the terms are ridiculous.

    e.g. they want an investment of 250k with a max return of 1m over 10 years. You would take must less risk by investing in shares and you will probably more than double your money over 10 years.

    It needs to be uncapped, so you invest 50k for 1% of all future earnings for 10 years (should be more).

    Its a silly investment really.

    Read the finer print, its extortion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,719 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    So I didn't read the whole thing. Why are people being so harsh on a 16 year old?

    Because the Irish are the Champions League winners in begrudgery.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,524 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Better off taking you money to Cheltenham.
    Invest in some new start ups as an Angel Investor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Water John wrote: »
    Better off taking you money to Cheltenham.
    Invest in some new start ups as an Angel Investor.

    This is the problem with leaving children up after the watershed watching television. A few episodes of Love/Hate and the kids think they are the next Nidge.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    Paedophile in the family home
    Mammy darina stood by her convicted paedophile husband
    RTE stood by their tv darlings -no prime time special on ballymaloe
    Bord fàilte continued to endorse their B&B with their teddybears on beds images & playground outside
    Son now caught importing large quantities of drugs ( allegedly)
    Ballymaloe still on the shelves of shops
    Many children raped and sexually exploited in the vile child pornography used by Darina Allens husband were mutilated and murdered - from dirt poor Indonesian families.Huge UK/Interpol investigation - barley a whisper on rte for their darling vile family of paedophiles and drug pushers.
    Do you want relish with that?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Son now caught importing large quantities of drugs ( allegedly)

    Why "allegedly" if he has been convicted?


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