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Rachel Allen’s son arrested for €30,000 drugs seizure

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    #122
    freshpopcorn
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    rob316 wrote: »
    Bad year for old Rachel, son busted for drugs and her restaurant venture in Cork City is a financial disaster.

    I thought she was just closed for a revamp despite only being opened for a few years.


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    #123
    Irish Kings
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭Irish Kings


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    His name is all over the media.

    If his parents were unknown there would be no mention of it in the hysterical sensationalist media.

    Hence, even if he got the probation act, his trial by hysterical media punishment is already substantially more than anyone else would get.

    I've no love of the Allen's, but I thought that people like this kid should be considered innocent until found properly guilty in a court of Irish law ?


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    #124
    Signore Fancy Pants
    Registered Users Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Strazdas wrote: »
    'Indecent images' could mean anything. Any form of nudity would be an indecent image under the law, including photos taken on a nudist beach.

    The judge insisted that Allen got the exact same sentence he would have given to an unemployed nobody. He said media coverage of the case was deliberately sensational, much was made of the fact that Allen donated €40k to a children's charity but this had no impact at all on the sentencing.

    Are you trying to downplay what happened?!

    He was a customer of a U.S based child porn distribution business.


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    #125
    Sheep breeder
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    Oops69 wrote: »
    18 years old and importing 30k of cannabis , pretty shocking really.

    Where did he get the money to buy, down the back of the sofa


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    #126
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
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    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    The people I know who did similar when it was first reported the media made the haul out to be a lot heavier than it actually was.

    Of course they did. Promotions are a big deal in AGS, not to mention the monetary increase for the jobs.


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    #127
    grindle
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    Irish Kings wrote: »
    I've no love of the Allen's, but I thought that people like this kid should be considered innocent until found properly guilty in a court of Irish law ?

    He's 18 and she's admitted he'd be pleading guilty immediately.


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    #128
    BorneTobyWilde
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    Could say it was for personal use. Would not be a surprise if it was ordered in his name, but parents are ones who ordered it. That would be a story, probably is.
    What 18 year old has connections for drugs in the states, the parents on the other hand, probably do.


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    #129
    BorneTobyWilde
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    grindle wrote: »
    He's 18 and she's admitted he'd be pleading guilty immediately.


    I bet she'd love him to take the fall for her drugs.


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    #130
    grindle
    Registered Users Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    I bet she'd love him to take the fall for her drugs.

    Chronic arthritis of the wrists. Gadzooks, you've solved it!


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    #131
    BorneTobyWilde
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    Sheep breeder wrote: »
    Where did he get the money to buy, down the back of the sofa


    Exactly, and to pay? What 18 year old has credit cards or sends international payments, something is not right. I suspect parents are behind it and were using his name.


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    #132
    Irish Kings
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭Irish Kings


    grindle wrote: »
    He's 18 and she's admitted he'd be pleading guilty immediately.

    What do you mean she admitted? what was she accused of ?


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    #133
    Water John
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    Wilde, head over to the Conspiracy Theory Forum.


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    #134
    Strazdas
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    Chewbacca wrote: »
    Are you trying to downplay what happened?!

    He was a customer of a U.S based child porn distribution business.

    Not at all, just pointing out that the trial judge was very angry with the idea that Allen had bought his way out of a jail sentence (which seems to be a common belief in Ireland). He insisted emphatically at the time that the case was judged in an identical way to other similar cases but said he found the press coverage hysterical and deliberately misleading because of the celebrity of the Allen family.


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    #135
    grindle
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    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Exactly, and to pay? What 18 year old has credit cards or sends international payments, something is not right. I suspect parents are behind it and were using his name.

    Could have been mining crypto for a while, who knows? Or somebody else's crypto was used, he was just receiving the package.
    Irish Kings wrote: »
    What do you mean she admitted? what was she accused of ?

    Eh - she was accused of nothing, but she has stated (prefer that word? Good, great, grand!) that he would be pleading guilty immediately.


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    #136
    BorneTobyWilde
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    Water John wrote: »
    Wilde, head over to the Conspiracy Theory Forum.


    The guy looks innocent, something is amiss. Maybe they have been shipping these before and using his name as he's a kid, but forgot he turned 18. Has to be an electronic trail to follow, where will that lead, to parents I bet.


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    #137
    Emme
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    Chewbacca wrote: »
    BOOM!....fcuking mouthful of relish like Satans semen.

    How do you know it tastes like Satan's semen?


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    #138
    Signore Fancy Pants
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    Strazdas wrote: »
    Not at all, just pointing out that the trial judge was very angry with the idea that Allen had bought his way out of a jail sentence (which seems to be a common belief in Ireland). He insisted emphatically at the time that the case was judged in an identical way to other similar cases but said he found the press coverage hysterical and deliberately misleading because of the celebrity of the Allen family.

    I see. I had not read your earlier posts...all is clear now.

    Was it the judge that suggested he pay the €40k? If so, surely he must have known how that would look.

    Anyway, I believe anyone who purchases or possesses child porn of any degree should get a custodial sentence....community service does not exactly provide a deterrent for others.


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    #139
    Signore Fancy Pants
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    Emme wrote: »
    How do you know it tastes like Satan's semen?

    Your da told us...all of us

    He loves it :pac:


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    Roger Hassenforder
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    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    The guy looks innocent, something is amiss. Maybe they have been shipping these before and using his name as he's a kid, but forgot he turned 18. Has to be an electronic trail to follow, where will that lead, to parents I bet.

    Rumpole of the Bailey. QC.


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    #141
    Motivator
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    JMNolan wrote: »
    I feel for her to be honest. I've a child that age and even though they are adults in the eyes of the law you don't seem them that way, you see them as kids. It's tough then when you can't do much to help your child in that situation.

    Get ****ed.


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    #142
    Strazdas
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    Chewbacca wrote: »
    I see. I had not read your earlier posts...all is clear now.

    Was it the judge that suggested he pay the €40k? If so, surely he must have known how that would look.

    Anyway, I believe anyone who purchases or possesses child porn of any degree should get a custodial sentence....community service does not exactly provide a deterrent for others.

    I'm guessing it must have been Allen's idea to offer to pay €40k to charity, it doesn't sound like the something the trial judge would suggest. If it was a PR move by Allen and his family, it backfired because the idea went out there that he had bought his way out of a prison sentence.

    The lack of a custodial sentence was the angle that the media went after at the time, but the judge said the case was in line with how most other cases were being judged back then.


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    #143
    Wegian
    Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭Wegian


    SexBobomb wrote: »
    I often wonder what street it is you're buying your cocaine on, because it's not the same street as I'm buying my cocaine on.


    Someone was bound to get in there before me :D


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    #144
    Irish Kings
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭Irish Kings


    Chewbacca wrote: »
    BOOM!....fcuking mouthful of relish like Satans semen.
    Chewbacca wrote: »
    Your da told us...all of us

    He loves it :pac:

    Think child sexual abuse is funny now ? . . . pretty sick. How low can you get. Fair play to the mods.


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    #145
    Visconti
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    I feel sorry for her, it's a private matter and having people know about it and gloat must be humiliating. I know there is a lot of negativity towards the Allen's after previous behaviour and a soft sentence but that's not anything to do with Rachel.

    She stood by her father that tells any decent person all they need to know.


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    #146
    Grab All Association
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    Visconti wrote: »
    She stood by her father that tells any decent person all they need to know.

    She's married to Tim Allens son i believe


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    #147
    10000maniacs
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    sligojoek wrote: »
    Not a word in the headlines.

    It was all over Virgin Media 1 (tv3) this evening.


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    #148
    chicorytip
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    Melendez wrote:
    This post has been deleted.


    "Ah sure, it's only a bit of weed". Guff! Cannabis is a seriously dangerous drug proven to cause many physical and psychological disorders in regular users as well as being the most common "gateway" leading to Heroin addiction.


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    #149
    freshpopcorn
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    Visconti wrote: »
    She stood by her father that tells any decent person all they need to know.

    You do know Rachael married into the Allen's!


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    #150
    Hotblack Desiato
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    grindle wrote: »
    For real? Boy brings into the country a drug with a low harm profile which is likely to be legalised here within the next few years.

    Don't hold your breath.

    Too many Mr. Mackey / Helen Lovejoy types hanging around the Dail.

    Then there's the publicans vested interest.

    © 1982 Sinclair Research Ltd



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    #151
    Signore Fancy Pants
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    Strazdas wrote: »
    I'm guessing it must have been Allen's idea to offer to pay €40k to charity, it doesn't sound like the something the trial judge would suggest. If it was a PR move by Allen and his family, it backfired because the idea went out there that he had bought his way out of a prison sentence.

    The lack of a custodial sentence was the angle that the media went after at the time, but the judge said the case was in line with how most other cases were being judged back then.

    Yeah I agree. I did read in a few different articles that he "agreed" to pay the €40k.

    Whose idea it was is uncertain but as you say, most likely not the judge.

    Anyway, im sure the Allen crew are not happy they are in the media for dodgy stuff again.


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