Rachel Allen’s son arrested for €30,000 drugs seizure

washman3

Deusexmachina wrote: »

Good man. Are you proud of yourself? Rachel Allen married a man whose father was subsequently caught with child pornography. That must have been terrible (and scary) for her.
And you feel all morally superior to her.
You are obviously a nasty piece of work.

Has she ever come out publicly and condemned what Tim Allen did.?
Have any of the family done so? They are more than happy to court the media when it suits them,ie to make money, but when the ****e hits the fan are very quick to circle the wagons with the help of their buddies in the Golden Circle.
Yet you refer to me as 'a nasty piece of work' for telling the truth.:mad:
The material that Tim Allen (and his buddy the judge from Tralee) were caught with, was stomach churning in the extreme, and many many little innocent kids had their lives destroyed by it, yet either one of them didn't spend a minute in prison.
Would you consider the two of them 'nasty pieces of work'...??

Deusexmachina

washman3 wrote: »

Has she ever come out publicly and condemned what Tim Allen did.?
Have any of the family done so? They are more than happy to court the media when it suits them,ie to make money, but when the ****e hits the fan are very quick to circle the wagons with the help of their buddies in the Golden Circle.
Yet you refer to me as 'a nasty piece of work' for telling the truth.:mad:
The material that Tim Allen (and his buddy the judge from Tralee) were caught with, was stomach churning in the extreme, and many many little innocent kids had their lives destroyed by it, yet either one of them didn't spend a minute in prison.
Would you consider the two of them 'nasty pieces of work'...??

Kicking someone who is completely innocent when she is down and vulnerable. I have your character sussed alright.

Arghus

Good to see Boards being a big bunch of judgemental bastards again.

Gloating over it, about a family of complete strangers. A lot of you people need to get a life.

sligojoek

Richmond Ultra wrote: »

The same lad wanted to be a formula 1 driver. You wouldn't be thinking of achieving that if you have a learning disability.

Different guy altogether.
https://luccaallen.com/

He lives on the second floor.

Vologda69

And Rachel had just got over the shock that he had made the family nanny pregnant...kid apparently has ADHD too. So a lot on their plate to deal with at the minute

sligojoek

I take it hash browns are off the menu for the time being.

tricky D

washman3 wrote: »

Any concern for the numerous families his drug dealing business would destroy.??

Hiutch's or Kinahan's?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Temptamperu wrote: »

Its weed, how serious could it really be?

John Gilligan did 20 years for weed.

It is serious. Being involved at that level is not a joke. Kid has been caught with 30 grand worth on him.

cameramonkey

I say he was grassed up.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Strazdas wrote: »

From what I recall, Tim Allen's offences (while very unpleasant) were considered at the low end of the scale. The trial judge was extremely angry with reporting of the case and accused the media of sensationally reporting it, lying to their readers and creating the narrative that Allen had gotten off scott free.

He insisted Allen got the exact same sentence any ordinary Joe Bloggs would have gotten for the same offence but said media hysteria in Ireland created the idea that he had bought his way out of a tougher sentence.

No, the opposite, there were images at the more extreme end of the scale. Anyone who accesses this material contributes towards the abuse of children. Even the “milder” images. For his family to close ranks and publicly brush it off like it was nothing is despicable. If the trial judge was “angry”, he can feck off. Tim Allen got off easy.

ebbsy

I would certainly like to go over and comfort her with my organic cucumber.

snotboogie

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Strazdas wrote: »

From what I recall, Tim Allen's offences (while very unpleasant) were considered at the low end of the scale. The trial judge was extremely angry with reporting of the case and accused the media of sensationally reporting it, lying to their readers and creating the narrative that Allen had gotten off scott free.

He insisted Allen got the exact same sentence any ordinary Joe Bloggs would have gotten for the same offence but said media hysteria in Ireland created the idea that he had bought his way out of a tougher sentence.

No, the opposite, there were images at the more extreme end of the scale. Anyone who accesses this material contributes towards the abuse of children. Even the “milder” images. For his family to close ranks and publicly brush it off like it was nothing is despicable. If the trial judge was “angry”, he can feck off. Tim Allen got off easy.

Can you link to a quote where they “publicly brushed it off like it was nothing”?

Chewbacca

Chewbacca wrote: »

Stop buying Ballymaloe stuff!

I like their products so no I won’t stop buying them. The relish is the best you can get.

corks finest

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What a muppet.

Hopefully no special treatment is doled out here. This is very serious.

Having a brother od and died here in Cork,a dealer is a dealer,hope the yummy mummys boy gets a sentence ( but of course he won't)

gctest50

corks finest wrote: »

Having a brother od and died here in Cork,a dealer is a dealer,hope the yummy mummys boy gets a sentence ( but of course he won't)

The pitchforks are out

If he didn't buy drugs he wouldn't have od'd and died

It's like blaming the guy working in the off-licence for failing a breathalizer test the next morning

P_1

Its crap like this that shows the law on weed is an ass. It should be legal like alcohol. Then people won't be doing stupid stuff like trying to import 30 grand worth of the stuff through the post

RabbleRouser2k

P_1 wrote: »

Its crap like this that shows the law on weed is an ass. It should be legal like alcohol. Then people won't be doing stupid stuff like trying to import 30 grand worth of the stuff through the post

Oh come on now-that argument doesn't hold water. Cigarettes are legal too, but it doesn't stop large amounts of illegal cigarettes being imported every year.
And 30 grand worth of weed is hardly nothing. It's the strong stuff too, not pre-mixed or anything.

Amalgam wrote: »

So, basically, in the future, the likelyhood of not being able to fly anywhere without extra scrutiny, work in US/Canada/Australia/Japan..

Does this kind of conviction limit you to Europe, more or less?

Pretty much. I know guys who are qualified electricians/ plumbers/ etc but have a conviction on their record. They get blocked from going to America, Australia-you name it. Because once you have a conviction, you're screwed for life. They're pretty much stuck in Ireland and a select few other countries.

Mountainsandh wrote: »

I saw her official statement somewhere else, not VM, and I thought it was simple, dignified, and honest.

It's nice to take people at face value sometimes, rather than extrapolate on what the rest of the family may have done.
She seems like an angry and concerned parent, and I hope the media will get off their back. It's enough worry for a parent as it is.

It's hard not to say 'the chickens came home to roost' tbh. One person paying a lot of money to ruin other people's lives...which is kind of the mantra of the Allen's.
(Folks forget his grandpa was caught when they traced his credit card purchases-as in he paid to violate children).

One could say 'I'd love it if people would get off her back'...but he's not a kid anymore, not in the eyes of the law.
He's essentially messed up his future-and knowingly so. And she was blinkered if she didn't see he was involved in this stuff.

P_1

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Oh come on now-that argument doesn't hold water. Cigarettes are legal too, but it doesn't stop large amounts of illegal cigarettes being imported every year.
And 30 grand worth of weed is hardly nothing. It's the strong stuff too, not pre-mixed or anything.



Pretty much. I know guys who are qualified electricians/ plumbers/ etc but have a conviction on their record. They get blocked from going to America, Australia-you name it. Because once you have a conviction, you're screwed for life. They're pretty much stuck in Ireland and a select few other countries.



It's hard not to say 'the chickens came home to roost' tbh. One person paying a lot of money to ruin other people's lives...which is kind of the mantra of the Allen's.
(Folks forget his grandpa was caught when they traced his credit card purchases-as in he paid to violate children).

One could say 'I'd love it if people would get off her back'...but he's not a kid anymore, not in the eyes of the law.
He's essentially messed up his future-and knowingly so. And she was blinkered if she didn't see he was involved in this stuff.

Interesting point. Not defending his actions by any way but surely there is an argument there

spurious

questionmark? wrote:

Always read the tripadviser reviews first, take away the extremely good and extremely bad to rule out the idiots then pay via PayPal to avoid credit card fraud. Send to parcel motel. Collect, make a mega joint and use Ballymaloe house as a massive smoke box, order 1000 chicken nuggets. Simple really.

Goujons, you peasant.

Ordering marijuana to be delivered through the post doesn't sound like the master plan of someone with 'normal' intellectual development, to be fair.

Uncharted

The 18year old will be a public whipping boy in the eyes of many,due to the 'softly softly' legal handling of his grandad a few years ago.

I think the public feel like ol gramps got an easy (40k cash) way out and perhaps the teenager will feel the sting if it.

Stupid stupid move on his behalf but there ya go. Besides,he won't get a custodial sentence. Slap on the wrists and a slight media shaming.

Money talks.

padd b1975

snotboogie wrote: »

Can you link to a quote where they “publicly brushed it off like it was nothing”?

Darina's interview with Pat Kenny on the LLS.

Although to be fair, she was hardly pressed on it Paxman style.

force eleven

This story looks cooked up by the sensationalist media. Some half baked story about drug possession. My blood is par-boiling over this.

s8n

Did they get a 2 for 1 offer on advanced Darknet surfing for dummies ?

James 007

force eleven wrote: »

This story looks cooked up by the sensationalist media. Some half baked story about drug possession. My blood is par-boiling over this.

If thats the case turn it down from 220 to 180 for the last 20mins & stir constantly......thats gas mark 6 in case you dont know.

Deusexmachina

ebbsy wrote: »

I would certainly like to go over and comfort her with my organic cucumber.

Pathetic.

Wildsurfer

Well now we know what makes their relish so damn tasty...

Emmersonn

JMNolan wrote: »

I feel for her to be honest. I've a child that age and even though they are adults in the eyes of the law you don't seem them that way, you see them as kids. It's tough then when you can't do much to help your child in that situation.

I hope that you also feel for the kids and their parents whose lives are ruined by scum like this who supply drugs.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Erik Faint Software wrote: »

I like their products so no I won’t stop buying them. The relish is the best you can get.

The relish is gussied up ketchup.

mr_edge_to_you

Baking Bad

Great job by the headline writers in the Sun.

furiousox

Are we sure this isn't "fake news"?
There's not a mention of it on the RTE website. :rolleyes:

Alrigghtythen

It's a bit of weed :rolleyes: the outrage is hilarious

KungPao

Send him to the gallows!

P_1

Emmersonn wrote: »

I hope that you also feel for the kids and their parents whose lives are ruined by scum like this who supply drugs.

Weed is not the same as cocaine and heroin

KevinCavan

How does one berate their kids in such a household?

Dtp1979

KevinCavan wrote: »

How does one berate their kids in such a household?

I dunno, forbid him from driving the Range Rover for a month. Reduce him to nothing and make him go around in the 161 Audi A6. That’ll show him

Deusexmachina

KevinCavan wrote: »

How does one berate their kids in such a household?

What’s your point about ‘such a household’?

Deusexmachina

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I dunno, forbid him from driving the Range Rover for a month. Reduce him to nothing and make him go around in the 161 Audi A6. That’ll show him

You are not allowed be successful in begrudging Ireland.

Fr_Dougal

KevinCavan wrote: »

How does one berate their kids in such a household?

Judging by his FB, take away his fairly new Audi. Maybe remove the silver spoon from his mouth too, in case he decides to cook up with it.

furiousox

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

It's a bit of weed :rolleyes: the outrage is hilarious

So are the double standards.

Beechwoodspark

Vologda69 wrote: »

And Rachel had just got over the shock that he had made the family nanny pregnant...kid apparently has ADHD too. So a lot on their plate to deal with at the minute

source for any of that?

KevRossi

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I dunno, forbid him from driving the Range Rover for a month. Reduce him to nothing and make him go around in the 161 Audi A6. That’ll show him

He has an Audi A5.

At 18.

Not bad going

sbsquarepants

Deusexmachina wrote: »

You are obviously a nasty piece of work.

They're a nasty family. Any family that supports a paedo deserve everything they get. Rachel may be hot, but that doesn't mean she's not a cúnt!

sligojoek wrote: »

Different guy altogether.
https://luccaallen.com/

He lives on the second floor.

Yes, I think I've seen him before.

Erik Faint Software wrote: »

I like their products so no I won’t stop buying them. The relish is the best you can get.

I wouldn't give them twopence - that family give me the creeps!

KevinCavan

Deusexmachina wrote: »

What’s your point about ‘such a household’?

A household in which everybody is so well spoken, cultured and monied. I didn’t mention Tim, if that’s what you are alluding to.

ebbsy

I would certainly be open to eating her peanut butter and white chocolate brownie anytime.

Get Real

I think its fair to say, young people can make mistakes, and this lad certainly did.

But I think the anger is understandable. People saying its begrudgery etc, I don't think it is.

Begrudgery is jealousy of one's success for no real reason.

The fact is, if this was someone from a less priveleged background it wouldn't be creating as much controversy. But it is, because the circumstances are different. This young man had no need to be greedy. Has his own a5, a succssful instagram account, access to money which could have been used to beter himself.

And fair play to him for all that, and his comfortable position. But with that comes extra responsibility. And he blew it. So he'll take the responsibility for his actions this way.

Regardless, in 5 years time, this will all be in the past. He'll still be from a wealthy family, still have a lifestyle that was given to him. And with that, comes the downside that people are going to talk about it. Not a bad trade off.

KevinCavan

Deusexmachina wrote: »

You are not allowed be successful in begrudging Ireland.

Nobody is saying that, but others sell drugs because they have to. Here you have a rich kid, born with a silver spoon in his mouth and he doesn’t appreciate any of it.

Deusexmachina

sbsquarepants wrote: »

They're a nasty family. Any family that supports a paedo deserve everything they get. Rachel may be hot, but that doesn't mean she's not a cúnt!

Yes, I think I've seen him before.

I wouldn't give them twopence - that family give me the creeps!

How very smug and self righteous of you.
Her Father in Law was caught with child pornography.
How does that make her a ‘c*unt’?

The fact that you refer to her as ‘hot’ in the same sentence as calling her a c*unt says all we need to know about you.

Deusexmachina

KevinCavan wrote: »

Nobody is saying that, but others sell drugs because they have to. Here you have a rich kid, born with a silver spoon in his mouth and he doesn’t appreciate any of it.

Begrudgery

Odelay

iodd7 wrote: »

Her persona is fine and nice but she's either super naive or negligent (or something) to put up with the kid posting all the stuff on facebook he has - since 13 or 14 years of age he has posted pictures of himself drinking, smoking spliffs, porny shots of cannabis leaves etc. Maybe he thought he was above the law but it's just so dumb with his family in the public eye etc...he was clearly not a big time dealer but still.

If he's smoking it since that age, it's no wonder he has trouble reading and writing.

Deusexmachina

Odelay wrote: »

If he's smoking it since that age, it's no wonder he has trouble reading and writing.

Slagging him off for having adhd? Really?