Rachel Allen’s son arrested for €30,000 drugs seizure

CeilingFly

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Where did he get the money to buy, down the back of the sofa

€30k inflated Street value based on maximum possible value so that the sensationalist hysterical media can have their sensationalist headline.

My guess, less than 3k cost.

Edit, about 1k cost.


Gardai claim value is €20/gram!!!

That's an extortionate price.

Fr_Dougal

chicorytip wrote: »

"Ah sure, it's only a bit of weed". Guff! Cannabis is a seriously dangerous drug proven to cause many physical and psychological disorders in regular users as well as being the most common "gateway" leading to Heroin addiction.

How do we know that Ballymaloe relish isn’t a gateway drug?

McCrack

S15a 30k, no previous, guilty plea, 18, weed, remorse, good family, bright future etc etc

Suspended sentence

Nothing to see here at all really

tayto lover

I wouldn't have a lot of time for the Allen family because of the previous incident. However this lad is only 18 years old and has made a big mistake. He is young and hopefully he learns from this and has a good life ahead of him.

lazygal

tayto lover wrote: »

I wouldn't have a lot of time for the Allen family because of the previous incident. However this lad is only 18 years old and has made a big mistake. He is young and hopefully he learns from this and has a good life ahead of him.

A mistake is having a few joints in the wrong place and getting caught by the Gardaí. This man, not lad, decided to import drugs. That's not a mistake. No sympathy for him.

Turnipman

Irish Kings wrote: »

I'm asking a question

Your question appears to have been removed. But I heard that story too - from a very reliable source.

CeilingFly

A 26 year old woman has been arrested with 500k (Garda value) of cannabis.

What are the chances of her name being front page headlines?

Zilch

tonycascarino

tayto lover wrote: »

I wouldn't have a lot of time for the Allen family because of the previous incident. However this lad is only 18 years old and has made a big mistake. He is young and hopefully he learns from this and has a good life ahead of him.

Don't understand the sympathy myself. There are not too many 18 year olds out there getting involved with 30000 euros worth of drugs. If I did what this lad did at 18 (or at any age) my family would have completely disowned me.

vicwatson

KevRossi wrote: »

For those who say that the family should not be associated with the actions of Tim Allen, just remember, they backed him up, funded his legal fees and accepted him back into the family.

One of the most disgusting verdicts ever handed down in this country and we all know he would have sat for his conviction if he was from a less well known family.

The son had €30,000 of drugs on him. That is mid size drug dealing territory. You can expect the Golden Circle members to start circling the wagons now.

Tearful colour spreads in the Sindo, comments from 'family friends' and the usual cohorts on Marian Finucane and Miriam O'Callaghan spouting out whatever guff Terry Prone has coached them to say.

Strazdas wrote: »

From what I recall, Tim Allen's offences (while very unpleasant) were considered at the low end of the scale. The trial judge was extremely angry with reporting of the case and accused the media of sensationally reporting it, lying to their readers and creating the narrative that Allen had gotten off scott free.

He insisted Allen got the exact same sentence any ordinary Joe Bloggs would have gotten for the same offence but said media hysteria in Ireland created the idea that he had bought his way out of a tougher sentence.

paw patrol wrote: »

judge is a fool - regardless of the nature of the image he should have done time .

Anyway the indo "can reveal" (at the time) the images were extreme and obtained from peado chat rooms.



https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/allens-childporn-images-extreme-26228355.html


Allen did no time at all and his fine while stiff wasn't that severe given the family wealth and didn't exactly make him destitute.


he got off scot-free save for the abuse people ranted on the internet about him.

Iirc it was 977 images and the fine he got was 40k payable to an INDIAN charity, not even an Irish one

I boycott their goods because of that court case and because Darina “stood by her man”

Nothing on Rte as they love the Allen family, won’t hear a bad word about them

sweetie

Another ballyhoo in ballymaloe!

lazygal

vicwatson wrote: »

Iirc it was 977 images and the fine he got was 40k payable to an INDIAN charity, not even an Irish one

I boycott their goods because of that court case and because Darina “stood by her man”

Nothing on Rte as they love the Allen family, won’t hear a bad word about them

I'm sure there is a slot with a teary Rachel being lined up for the day after the court case already.

Irish Kings

tonycascarino wrote: »

Don't understand the sympathy myself. There are not too many 18 year olds out there getting involved with 30000 euros worth of drugs. If I did what this lad did at 18 (or at any age) my family would have completely disowned me.

Sure, but any 18 year lad, even if he is an Allen, and any person, including you, is to be considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of Irish law.
If we don't have that we have nothing in Ireland.

bilbot79

That's a 10 year mandatory sentence. Boy's up **** Creek.
Feel sorry for him as the street value is probably 2k

prinzeugen

CeilingFly wrote: »

€30k inflated Street value based on maximum possible value so that the sensationalist hysterical media can have their sensationalist headline.

My guess, less than 3k cost.

Edit, about 1k cost.


Gardai claim value is €20/gram!!!

That's an extortionate price.

From what I understand, there was more than one package detected in Portlaoise. The Garda did a controlled delivery on only one.

So the €30,000 comes from what they got in Cork after it was delivered + the other packages held in Portlaoise mail centre addressed to him.

lazygal

Irish Kings wrote: »

Sure, but any 18 year lad, even if he is an Allen, and any person, including you, is to be considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of Irish law.
If we don't have that we have nothing in Ireland.

Hadn't he admitted his guilt?

RabbleRouser2k

According to VM1 today, she's 'devastated'. The Allen jr will be pleading guilty, and they are condemning his actions.

Personally, 30 grand worth of drugs is too large to be a 'first time' drug offence. And according to the statement, the amount he had they are claiming was for sale, not personal use. (Personal use tends to carry a lesser sentence, distribution carries a far heavier sentence/ fine).

It's strange seeing Virgin Media reporting on this-they've had more dealings with Rachel Allen (The Restaurant) in the last few years than RTE has. RTE has only had dealings with Rory, and he's not 'an Allen', really.

Irish Kings

lazygal wrote: »

Hadn't he admitted his guilt?

according to what proper court ? since when were the media in Ireland accurate or reliable ?

chicorytip

Melendez wrote:

This post has been deleted.

My point is Cannabis is an illegal drug in this country and for very good reasons. This Allen fellah should get ten years in jail.

Amalgam

So, basically, in the future, the likelyhood of not being able to fly anywhere without extra scrutiny, work in US/Canada/Australia/Japan..

Does this kind of conviction limit you to Europe, more or less?

Mountainsandh

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

According to VM1 today, she's 'devastated'. The Allen jr will be pleading guilty, and they are condemning his actions.

Personally, 30 grand worth of drugs is too large to be a 'first time' drug offence. And according to the statement, the amount he had they are claiming was for sale, not personal use. (Personal use tends to carry a lesser sentence, distribution carries a far heavier sentence/ fine).

It's strange seeing Virgin Media reporting on this-they've had more dealings with Rachel Allen (The Restaurant) in the last few years than RTE has. RTE has only had dealings with Rory, and he's not 'an Allen', really.

I saw her official statement somewhere else, not VM, and I thought it was simple, dignified, and honest.

It's nice to take people at face value sometimes, rather than extrapolate on what the rest of the family may have done.
She seems like an angry and concerned parent, and I hope the media will get off their back. It's enough worry for a parent as it is.

Irish Kings

Amalgam wrote: »

So, basically, in the future, the likelyhood of not being able to fly anywhere without extra scrutiny, work in US/Canada/Australia/Japan..

Does this kind of conviction limit you to Europe, more or less?

Who need's that with future RTE cookery shows, books etc.

Ganja Pie anyone ?

Kevin Finnerty

chicorytip wrote: »

My point is Cannabis is an illegal drug in this country and for very good reasons. This Allen fellah should get ten years in jail.

YEAH, MINIMUM.




Tsk,is my pitchfork big enough?

PARlance

How exactly does ordering €10-30k of drugs online work?

Assuming you can't just stick it on the credit card.

Irish Kings

Mountainsandh wrote: »

I saw her official statement somewhere else, not VM, and I thought it was simple, dignified, and honest.

It's nice to take people at face value sometimes, rather than extrapolate on what the rest of the family may have done.
She seems like an angry and concerned parent, and I hope the media will get off their back. It's enough worry for a parent as it is.

She's is genuinely a really nice person, an absolute lady.
That lad is unbelievably lucky to have her as a ma.
I feel really sorry for her getting mixed up with the Allen's.
They would have been unknown has beens today without her.
They don't deserve her.

PARlance

chicorytip wrote: »

My point is Cannabis is an illegal drug in this country and for very good reasons. This Allen fellah should get ten years in jail.

At what temperature?

Are Am Eye

PARlance wrote: »

How exactly does ordering €10-30k of drugs online work?

Always read the reviews. But be aware some may be fake.
If the seller has less than 95% feedback rating - avoid.

chicorytip

PARlance wrote:

At what temperature?

220 degrees farenheit.

prinzeugen

PARlance wrote: »

How exactly does ordering €10-30k of drugs online work?

Assuming you can't just stick it on the credit card.

I would guess that he was in the states on a J1 or whatever during the summer and made some "contacts" . The packages came from the USA marked as clothes.

fourmations

Chewbacca wrote: »

A family of fake posh accents, kiddy fiddling and now drugs.

Stop buying Ballymaloe stuff!

haven't gone near anything from them since darinas sons episode,
im far from a militant but that left a sour taste in my mouth
not darinas fault but im not funding his allowance either!

Hector Bellend

How does your average 18 year old get their hand on 30k worth of dope.