Rachel Allen’s son arrested for €30,000 drugs seizure

Bannasidhe

skooterblue2 wrote: »

So why did Darina stand by Tim then? If I had a sniff of a record my missus would be gone like a hot shot. Maybe certain women like a bit of rough? I know if I was close to that sort of stuff at that age my parents would have thrown me out.

skooterblue2 wrote: »

The rot is deeper than we think?

You can't help yourself can you?

Even if I knew why Darina decided to stand by her man I wouldn't tell some anonymous gossip determined to dish unsubstantiated anonymous dirt on an internet forum. Particularly one who spent days trying to claim they were in the know - which we both know is B.S.

Did the Allens refuse to employ you or something?

You obviously know absolutely nothing about them as a family, as individuals, or how the Quaker faith of the Allens influences their personal philosophy.
Don't judge other families by your own - who sound delightful by the way.

It's always lovely to hear people talking about "Women liking a bit of rough" - such a telling phrase.

skooterblue2

Mrsmum wrote: »

I really have nothing further to add. You seem to think that you could straighten him out by kicking him out. I'm telling you you have no clue how that might end. A reformed young man is not a given. Not being able to afford drugs never stopped anyone. But hey it might work, might not. Either way you won't lose sleep at night. Therefore you shouldn't judge them imo.

I have absolutely no idea how it will end, it can only end one of two ways. That will ultimately be his decision. He will rock bottom and from there he will either seek help on his own or he will spiral downwards even faster. I wouldnt like to imagine what rock bottom looks like for a pretty boy like him. Imagine no sundried tomatoes!!

skooterblue2

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Did the Allens refuse to employ you or something?

You obviously know absolutely nothing about them as a family, as individuals, or how the Quaker faith of the Allens influences their personal philosophy.
Don't judge other families by your own - who sound delightful by the way.

It's always lovely to hear people talking about "Women liking a bit of rough" - such a telling phrase.

No I have never been employed, attended an interview at Ballymaloe (I did a real course) or met any of the Allens. I did attend my sisters wedding reception there. I have no idea of the Quaker faith except it is supposed to be about hard work and not turning cheap tricks like car racing and drugs.

My own family have never had a criminal record and do quiet well thank you.

What does the phrase tell you? please elaborate?

Bannasidhe

skooterblue2 wrote: »

No I have never been employed, attended an interview at Ballymaloe (I did a real course) or met any of the Allens. I did attend my sisters wedding reception there. I have no idea of the Quaker faith except it is supposed to be about hard work and not turning cheap tricks like car racing and drugs.

My own family have never had a criminal record and do quiet well thank you.

What does the phrase tell you? please elaborate?

You did the CERT course at CIT - a course that was perfect for the 1970s (parsley sauce, aspic, Pommes Anna, making a roux with marge) that was still being taught decades later so I wouldn't be getting too snobbish about it. The Ballymaloe grads worked hard and were good at more up to date cuisine than the CERT grads, but hadn't a notion how to do butchery/costings. TBH all the grads regardless of where they came from had to be trained before they were any use.
Best chefs I ever worked with had no formal training.

There must be a reason you have it in for the Allens. You are like a dog with a bone and insinuating some serious stuff - all based on 'what you were told'. Yet, you don't know them, never worked for them, set foot in Ballymaloe once in your life (strange admission - any serious Cork Chef would keep up to date with what the opposition in up to... ), and don't understand the importance of their religion (or know anything about that religion) but you do feel able to judge Darina.


It tells me you perhaps belonged on a 1970s cookery course.

ohnonotgmail

Bannasidhe wrote: »

You did the CERT course at CIT - a course that was perfect for the 1970s (parsley sauce, aspic, Pommes Anna, making a roux with marge) that was still being taught decades later so I wouldn't be getting too snobbish about it. The Ballymaloe grads worked hard and were good at more up to date cuisine than the CERT grads, but hadn't a notion how to do butchery/costings. TBH all the grads regardless of where they came from had to be trained before they were any use.
Best chefs I ever worked with had no formal training.

There must be a reason you have it in for the Allens. You are like a dog with a bone and insinuating some serious stuff - all based on 'what you were told'. Yet, you don't know them, never worked for them, set foot in Ballymaloe once in your life (strange admission - any serious Cork Chef would keep up to date with what the opposition in up to... ), and don't understand the importance of their religion (or know anything about that religion) but you do feel able to judge Darina.


It tells me you perhaps belonged on a 1970s cookery course.

somebody call the burns unit quick

Ash.J.Williams

skooterblue2 wrote: »

No I have never been employed, attended an interview at Ballymaloe (I did a real course) or met any of the Allens. I did attend my sisters wedding reception there. I have no idea of the Quaker faith except it is supposed to be about hard work and not turning cheap tricks like car racing and drugs.

My own family have never had a criminal record and do quiet well thank you.

What does the phrase tell you? please elaborate?

What’s your issue with motor racing?

Muahahaha

skooterblue2 wrote: »

It was probably when they cracked a ring, the Ballymaloe IP, Mac address and credit card came up and they rounded up the whole ring. Once they have you with all three its a slam dunk conviction.

It was an investigation by the US Postal service and the FBI then Interpol and the Gardai. It began with someone sending child porn images through the post, that being caught and then it grew from there into an investigation of a child porn website run from Texas which Tim Allen bought images of children off.

The 'Internet Relay Chat' areas where some of the worst images are concerned are now at the centre of the investigations by detectives from the National Bureau of Criminal Investigation who headed the operation which exposed Allen and other Irish paedophiles.

Most of the images retrieved by Garda computer forensic officers from his computers were of post-pubescent teenage girls. Midleton Court heard, however, that some of the images were of girls as young as four or five, several of them being raped or sexually abused. The images which led to Allen's exposure and arrest came from a pay site run by a man and his wife based in Fort Worth, Texas.

Thomas Reedy, the man who ran the site, was sentenced to life imprisonment on August 6, 2001. His wife received a 14-year sentence. The Reedys, whose internet site was run by a company called Landslide Productions, netted millions of dollars. Thomas Reedy made contact with organised criminals in Russia and Indonesia who abducted and raped children for the purpose of filming and photographing their rape and sexual exploitation.

The fate of all the children involved remains unknown. Most are believed to be sold into prostitution. Some US law officials have expressed concern that some of the child victims might also be killed and their bodies used for illegal trade in organ parts. Allen is believed to have paid only $29.95 via his credit card to access the site on one occasion and download images.

However, this transaction was traced by the US Post Service. The information on this and the other transactions by Irish credit-card holders was passed to the FBI then to Interpol and then on to the gardai who set up a major arrest and seizure operation last May 27.

Some 30,000 paedophiles worldwide were identified by the US Postal Service investigation.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/allens-child-porn-images-extreme-26228355.html

Odelay

Bannasidhe wrote: »

You did the CERT course at CIT - a course that was perfect for the 1970s (parsley sauce, aspic, Pommes Anna, making a roux with marge) that was still being taught decades later so I wouldn't be getting too snobbish about it. The Ballymaloe grads worked hard and were good at more up to date cuisine than the CERT grads, but hadn't a notion how to do butchery/costings. TBH all the grads regardless of where they came from had to be trained before they were any use.
Best chefs I ever worked with had no formal training.

There must be a reason you have it in for the Allens. You are like a dog with a bone and insinuating some serious stuff - all based on 'what you were told'. Yet, you don't know them, never worked for them, set foot in Ballymaloe once in your life (strange admission - any serious Cork Chef would keep up to date with what the opposition in up to... ), and don't understand the importance of their religion (or know anything about that religion) but you do feel able to judge Darina.


It tells me you perhaps belonged on a 1970s cookery course.

Buuuuuuurn. I’m going to frame this post.

skooterblue2

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

What’s your issue with motor racing?

I have no issue with the motor racing its how its going to be paid for on the backs of sponsors. Check other people opinion in the thread, not just mine. Its going to be financed on the backs of "prefered suppliers". The money needed to finance a car to F1 level isnt there (its millions not hundreds of thousands), its a way for the Allens to cream up management/Directors fees without getting anywhere.

Odelay

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

What’s your issue with motor racing?

If one of the Allens was trying to break the 100m Olympic record, he’d have an issue with that too.

skooterblue2

Bannasidhe wrote: »

You did the CERT course at CIT - a course that was perfect for the 1970s (parsley sauce, aspic, Pommes Anna, making a roux with marge) that was still being taught decades later so I wouldn't be getting too snobbish about it. The Ballymaloe grads worked hard and were good at more up to date cuisine than the CERT grads, but hadn't a notion how to do butchery/costings. TBH all the grads regardless of where they came from had to be trained before they were any use.
Best chefs I ever worked with had no formal training.

There must be a reason you have it in for the Allens. You are like a dog with a bone and insinuating some serious stuff - all based on 'what you were told'. Yet, you don't know them, never worked for them, set foot in Ballymaloe once in your life (strange admission - any serious Cork Chef would keep up to date with what the opposition in up to... ), and don't understand the importance of their religion (or know anything about that religion) but you do feel able to judge Darina.


It tells me you perhaps belonged on a 1970s cookery course.

Yes I did, we were also uptodate with Asian and Mediterranean cookery. Which was the fashion at the time (notice I refer to at time because I no long am a chef). Actually we had modules in costing and two in Butchery and with both advanced larder and pastry. If you are going to taunt me "why did you leave the industry?" Because it is a lose course aparts from learning to cook. There are much easier ways to make money like drugs makey up industries like motor racing.

College never full prepares you for industry. Every industry requires you do additional training to bring you to their standards.

I dislike the Allens because they think everything can be bought including the law and judges arms can be twisted by throwing money at charity or a detox center. I am no longer in Cork. I know a little about Quakers and have met a few, the law of the land doesnt seem to apply to the Allens. If the Allens are Quarkers, they are poor examples of it.

skooterblue2

Odelay wrote: »

If one of the Allens was trying to break the 100m Olympic record, he’d have an issue with that too.

If you can get the little hash head out of the bed in the morning, then go train him yourself.

ohnonotgmail

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I have no issue with the motor racing its how its going to be paid for on the backs of sponsors. Check other people opinion in the thread, not just mine. Its going to be financed on the backs of "prefered suppliers". The money needed to finance a car to F1 level isnt there (its millions not hundreds of thousands), its a way for the Allens to cream up management/Directors fees without getting anywhere.

he isn't looking to finance a car. he is not intending to create a team. he is trying to finance a seat in an existing teams car. I'm not really sure what your issue with it is. pretty standard for guys starting out in motor racing

skooterblue2

Muahahaha wrote: »

It was an investigation by the US Postal service and the FBI then Interpol and the Gardai. It began with someone sending child porn images through the post, that being caught and then it grew from there into an investigation of a child porn website run from Texas which Tim Allen bought images of children off.


https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/allens-child-porn-images-extreme-26228355.html

$30!??!?! Jeepers that was one expensive peddle!!! Cost them what? 40k + solicitors fees + loss of revenue. Jesus that is a lot of whoopsie daisies.

skooterblue2

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

he isn't looking to finance a car. he is not intending to create a team. he is trying to finance a seat in an existing teams car. I'm not really sure what your issue with it is. pretty standard for guys starting out in motor racing

Take it up with the other posters on here. They think it is a scam and its all pie in the sky.

ohnonotgmail

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Take it up with the other posters on here. They think it is a scam and its all pie in the sky.

sounds like you think they are pulling a scam as well

its a way for the Allens to cream up management/Directors fees without getting anywhere.

skooterblue2

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

sounds like you think they are pulling a scam as well

Yep I do. I think it would be silly investment with little chance of success. Now if it was Dermot Desmonds grandchild or one of Smurfits. I would say for it, if it was on their own back. Time will tell. One of the more expert posters in Motor sports on here will tell you it's a folly and will out line the reasons why better than I.

Are you putting money into it? as a matter of interests. What do you think his chances of success are?

Bannasidhe

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Yes I did, we were also uptodate with Asian and Mediterranean cookery. Which was the fashion at the time (notice I refer to at time because I no long am a chef). Actually we had modules in costing and two in Butchery and with both advanced larder and pastry. If you are going to taunt me "why did you leave the industry?" Because it is a lose course aparts from learning to cook. There are much easier ways to make money like drugs makey up industries like motor racing.

College never full prepares you for industry. Every industry requires you do additional training to bring you to their standards.

I dislike the Allens because they think everything can be bought including the law and judges arms can be twisted by throwing money at charity or a detox center. I am no longer in Cork. I know a little about Quakers and have met a few, the law of the land doesnt seem to apply to the Allens. If the Allens are Quarkers, they are poor examples of it.

I know exactly what the CERT courses 'taught' - I had to unteach a hell of a lot of it- and I specifically said the Ballymaloe grads didn't know butchery or costings. Not that I would ever have left someone just out of CIT anywhere near my menus, costings, or sides of beef. I would allow them to pluck me pheasants.

Why should I taunt you about leaving the industry? I left the industry. It's a crap industry.

I will point out that you came into this tread acting like you were some big mucky mucky in the Cork catering trade nearly 20 years ago with an inside scoop and it turns out that you were a grad of a CIT CERT course with a superiority complex when it came to Ballymaloe grads and a chip on your shoulder about the entire Allen family.
Mate, I was Exec Sous Chef in one of Corks most well known fine dining establishments and I wasn't a big mucky mucky with an inside scoop. I was a bloody exhausted Chef with sore feet and no bloody life.

Most of the Allens are hardworking and just get on with it. Yes, some of them 'use' the family connection (not all) in their own area of work - why the hell shouldn't they? It's their family. Some of them are muppets - find me an extended family that doesn't have the odd muppet in it's ranks.

The ONLY person who is guilty of accessing child porn is Tim Allen - not his wife and not his children, but they have had to suffer the judgement and sly inferences spouted by the brave internet warriors with a chip on their shoulders.

They might be poor examples of 'Quarkers' but from what I have seen they are fairly typical examples of East Cork Quakers.

For people who apparently 'the law of the land' doesn't apply too it's strange the only two members of it to have been charged with offences have been convicted.

I have no grá for the Allens, I did like Myrtle but the rest of them ...meh. Ballymaloe would not be in my top ten have to eat places in Cork (or even top 30).
You, however, seem to have a vendetta going against the Allen family and for all your nod nod wink wink 'knowing' innuendos are being less than forthcoming about your own agenda here.

skooterblue2

Bannasidhe wrote: »

any serious Cork Chef would keep up to date with what the opposition in up to... )
It tells me you perhaps belonged on a 1970s cookery course.

Are you still working the griddle? Dont go telling everyone else but there are easier ways to make money in life. You are what about 40+. Notice how almost everyone of your peers have dropped out? they worked it out before you and all the bad habits set in.
I got out early after I learned there is easier money to be made.

skooterblue2

Bannasidhe wrote: »

I will point out that you came into this tread acting like you were some big mucky mucky in the Cork catering trade nearly 20 years ago with an inside scoop and it turns out that you were a grad of a CIT CERT course with a superiority complex when it came to Ballymaloe grads and a chip on your shoulder about the entire Allen family.
Mate, I was Exec Sous Chef in one of Corks most well known fine dining establishments and I wasn't a big mucky mucky with an inside scoop. I was a bloody exhausted Chef with sore feet and no bloody life.

Most of the Allens are hardworking and just get on with it. Yes, some of them 'use' the family connection (not all) in their own area of work - why the hell shouldn't they? It's their family. Some of them are muppets - find me an extended family that doesn't have the odd muppet in it's ranks.

The ONLY person who is guilty of accessing child porn is Tim Allen - not his wife and not his children, but they have had to suffer the judgement and sly inferences spouted by the brave internet warriors with a chip on their shoulders.

They might be poor examples of 'Quarkers' but from what I have seen they are fairly typical examples of East Cork Quakers.

For people who apparently 'the law of the land' doesn't apply too it's strange the only two members of it to have been charged with offences have been convicted.

I have no grá for the Allens, I did like Myrtle but the rest of them ...meh. Ballymaloe would not be in my top ten have to eat places in Cork (or even top 30).
You, however, seem to have a vendetta going against the Allen family and for all your nod nod wink wink 'knowing' innuendos are being less than forthcoming about your own agenda here.

I never claimed to be a great chef or even a mediocre one, I just worked that was all. Its you (like all chefs) that has delusions of grandeur working in the most salubrious establishments, I only worked in places that had delusions of grandeur, big difference. It only took me a year after graduation to work out the industry was crap. how long did it take you to work that out? You must have been like a bag of cats when you quit all the time wasted perfecting food for people who didnt appreciate it and being paid crap.

Hell I dont even have one member in my bloodline with a criminal record. I have no vendetta or agenda with the Allens. I am just pointing out what they are. You cannot accuse me of muck racking and defending them at the same time.

Bannasidhe

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Are you still working the griddle? Dont go telling everyone else but there are easier ways to make money in life. You are what about 40+. Notice how almost everyone of your peers have dropped out? they worked it out before you and all the bad habits set in.
I got out early after I learned there is easier money to be made.

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I never claimed to be a great chef or even a mediocre one, I just worked that was all. Its you (like all chefs) that has delusions of grandeur working in the most salubrious establishments, I only worked in places that had delusions of grandeur, big difference. It only took me a year after graduation to work out the industry was crap. how long did it take you to work that out? You must have been like a bag of cats when you quit all the time wasted perfecting food for people who didnt appreciate it and being paid crap.

Hell I dont even have one member in my bloodline with a criminal record. I have no vendetta or agenda with the Allens. I am just pointing out what they are. You cannot accuse me of muck racking and defending them at the same time.

D'ja want salt and vinegar on those chips?

I think everyone can see clearly that all your earlier talk of being in the catering trade in Cork and having inside knowledge was just you bigging yourself up - pure empty B.S.

You were a wet behind the ears kid who did an outdated cookery course and lasted the grand total of a year in the industry - hardly the insider you tried to paint yourself.

Nowt wrong with knowing it's not for you, but don't act like you were some mover and shaker with your finger on the pulse and all knowledge at your disposal. You were one of hundreds.

Maybe you didn't expect that there was someone on boards who knows enough to call you out - but sadly for you there is.
Actually - there usually is when ever anyone tries to make exaggerated claims about the level of authority behind their pronouncements. Today it was your turn.

Your bloodline? Seriously? Checked every single ancestor and every single cousin even the thrice removed have you?


Everyone can see you are muckraking. That is all you are doing.

LillySV

Feel sorry for Rachel getting her name dragged down by a spoilt pup

skooterblue2

Bannasidhe wrote: »

D'ja want salt and vinegar on those chips?

I think everyone can see clearly that all your earlier talk of being in the catering trade in Cork and having inside knowledge was just you bigging yourself up - pure empty B.S.

You were a wet behind the ears kid who did an outdated cookery course and lasted the grand total of a year in the industry - hardly the insider you tried to paint yourself.

Nowt wrong with knowing it's not for you, but don't act like you were some mover and shaker with your finger on the pulse and all knowledge at your disposal. You were one of hundreds.

Maybe you didn't expect that there was someone on boards who knows enough to call you out - but sadly for you there is.
Actually - there usually is when ever anyone tries to make exaggerated claims about the level of authority behind their pronouncements. Today it was your turn.

Your bloodline? Seriously? Checked every single ancestor and every single cousin even the thrice removed have you?


Everyone can see you are muckraking. That is all you are doing.

I am not bitter about my time, I got what I wanted and move on, others didnt and are still living pay cheque to pay cheque. Its much more like someone who spent 10 years in the industry would be having the vinegar.
Yeah I worked in all those places that had notions about themselves because they made their own demi glace. The difference is I never fell for my own hype.
I had the smarts to get out early how long did it take you 10 years? With what? Who sounds smarter now?

Definitely none of the second cousins arent up to anything, except the one shovelling horse meat into the burger machine but he was never convicted.

skooterblue2

LillySV wrote: »

Feel sorry for Rachel getting her name dragged down by a spoilt pup

She is the one who spoilt him and didnt act appropriately when warned. you think a sports car buys and runs itself. You dont think the community guard didnt call in for "de cha'" and said we would rather you handled this than us?

LillySV

skooterblue2 wrote: »

She is the one who spoilt him and didnt act appropriately when warned. you think a sports car buys and runs itself. You dont think the community guard didnt call in for "de cha'" and said we would rather you handled this than us?

Unfortunately that’s the problem with all recent mums and dads... hence why we now have a country of ungrateful spoilt millennials .

LiquidZeb

skooterblue2 wrote: »

She is the one who spoilt him and didnt act appropriately when warned. you think a sports car buys and runs itself. You dont think the community guard didnt call in for "de cha'" and said we would rather you handled this than us?

You've really kicked the hornets nest here skooter. All the Allen family worshippers are out for blood because you told more than a few harsh realities about the little house on the prairie fantasy Rachel and darina try to project.

skooterblue2

LiquidZeb wrote: »

You've really kicked the hornets nest here skooter. All the Allen family worshippers are out for blood because you told more than a few harsh realities about the little house on the prairie fantasy Rachel and darina try to project.

I am a man who can do no right, a bit like a modern day Jesus. If it ain't the Roman, its the Pharisees, if it is not them its the High Priests. Wouldnt you give your two front teeth to hear the conversations in the house 20 years back? This Quaker pot house is comparable to Amish Meth dealers in America. Isnt commerce wonderful.

They all will be happy when the put me on Golgotha on a big ole cross.

skooterblue2

LillySV wrote: »

Feel sorry for Rachel getting her name dragged down by a spoilt pup

Did you notice from the court pictures that it was Issac and Lucca that were at the court house and not mum with a batch of homemade shortbread? Either she didnt want his image sullying the brand or they had some blow out argument. This stuff writes itself, its better than Dallas.

LiquidZeb

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I am a man who can do no right, a bit like a modern day Jesus. If it ain't the Roman, its the Pharisees, if it is not them its the High Priests. Wouldnt you give your two front teeth to hear the conversations in the house 20 years back? This Quaker pot house is comparable to Amish Meth dealers in America. Isnt commerce wonderful.

They all will be happy when the put me on Golgotha on a big ole cross.

I dunno, I guess some people need to believe in the fantasy of it all. Maybe some people are defending Rachel Allen because they fancy her. If she looked like the school lunch lady I doubt she'd have a boards.ie defense force fighting tooth and nail for her.

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I am a man who can do no right, a bit like a modern day Jesus. If it ain't the Roman, its the Pharisees, if it is not them its the High Priests. Wouldnt you give your two front teeth to hear the conversations in the house 20 years back? This Quaker pot house is comparable to Amish Meth dealers in America. Isnt commerce wonderful.

They all will be happy when the put me on Golgotha on a big ole cross.

Only thing missing is the movie like
"The people vs. Larry Flyntt"