Rachel Allen’s son arrested for €30,000 drugs seizure

ohnonotgmail

skooterblue2 wrote: »

So what are you going to do about it?

mock you.

skooterblue2

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

mock you.

I thought you were going to lead a crack legal team on a moral crusade to drag me to Shanagarry to prostrate before the Allens. For a moment there I was really worried. Thought I might see the inside of the prison. I am heading back to watching "Ronin". 10/10 for effort, no biscuit.

skooterblue2

Effects wrote: »

Fair enough, it hasn't turned out as she hoped, but you can't say he hasn't tried anything legit.

Joshua life up to this .....

freshpopcorn

LiquidZeb wrote: »

No clearly we're all jealous of the perfect Allen family. Grandad was caught with pictures of child pornography, granny forgave him instantly and feels he was hard done by to this day, mammy spends too much time swanning in front of the camera to realize what's going on and one son has been caught with class a drugs and the other is trying to convince people he's Michael Schumacher.

I suppose if Rachel sat on her bottom eating mars bars all day. It would be her fault as well for not going out to work and not caring about her children.

skooterblue2

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I suppose if Rachel sat on her bottom eating mars bars all day. It would be her fault as well for not going out to work and not caring about her children.

If she took the advice of the Gardai and nipped it in the bud (so to speak), we might not have arrived here today. If Josh put some effort into rehab he might not have been caught the second time.
Who knows he might have even have found the cure for cancer but I doubt it.

LiquidZeb

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Swanning in front of the camera? That’s her job Ya feckin eegit

Putting across an image of perfection despite the fact her son's a druggie and her father in law is a pedophile and she let him live in the same place as her children. But you keep insulting anyone who tarnishes your little crush

Ash.J.Williams

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Putting across an image of perfection despite the fact her son's a druggie and her father in law is a pedophile and she let him live in the same place as her children. But you keep insulting anyone who tarnishes your little crush

I’ve never noticed any image of perfection

skooterblue2

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I’ve never noticed any image of perfection

I think we need to focus on the phrase "projects an image of perfection".
Something a kin to Sir Jimmy Saville being the crusader of charities in the UK. I will have to say I was quite smitten with him as an 8 year old watching "Jim 'll fix it!", while my father would grumble in the corner "he gives me the shivers".

Effects

skooterblue2 wrote: »

If she took the advice of the Gardai and nipped it in the bud, we might not have arrived here today.

Maybe she tried, and it just didn't work. Parents can't always fix their kids, even if their parenting has a part to play in how they turn out.

I remember a lad in my area, whose father was a Garda Sergeant. He got involved with the wrong crowd, and got into dealing drugs.
This lad came from a good area, and a good family, and he still managed to go wrong.
Luckily for the father, he had passed away by the time his son was shot dead in 2008.

Water John

Yes, their is always a risk, no matter how well they are reared that a child will go astray. The problem is the whole branding of their product is tied to high 'family values'.
Same as an advertiser ties in with a personality. If something goes awry in that person's life it reflects on the product, tied to them.

The lads misdemeanours are small fry compared to Granda.

Ash.J.Williams

This thread is getting weirder

skooterblue2

Effects wrote: »

Maybe she tried, and it just didn't work. Parents can't always fix their kids, even if their parenting has a part to play in how they turn out.

I remember a lad in my area, whose father was a Garda Sergeant. He got involved with the wrong crowd, and got into dealing drugs.
This lad came from a good area, and a good family, and he still managed to go wrong.
Luckily for the father, he had passed away by the time his son was shot dead in 2008.

Maybe she didnt try hard enough. You know who wants to sell you weed when you dont have a shilling? No one. You know how to run a fast car without money for petrol and insurance, tax and servicing? I dont. You know how many girls want to know you if you are broke? None.

Maybe he was one of those dopes you cannot save from themselves?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I think we need to focus on the phrase "projects an image of perfection".
Something a kin to Sir Jimmy Saville being the crusader of charities in the UK. I will have to say I was quite smitten with him as an 8 year old watching "Jim 'll fix it!", while my father would grumble in the corner "he gives me the shivers".

That would be more a case of "recieving" than "putting across" an image of perfection.

skooterblue2 wrote: »

If she took the advice of the Gardai and nipped it in the bud (so to speak), we might not have arrived here today. If Josh put some effort into rehab he might not have been caught the second time.
Who knows he might have even have found the cure for cancer but I doubt it.

Teenage rebeliion. It's what they do. Nothing to do with class or money.

skooterblue2

Water John wrote: »

The lads misdemeanours are small fry compared to Granda.

He is 20 now? Imagine what he will be like in 5 years if he is importing unrestricted? Let him know what daily porridge tastes like. I view both crimes equally.

skooterblue2

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

That would be more a case of "recieving" than "putting across" an image of perfection.



Teenage rebeliion. It's what they do. Nothing to do with class or money.

There is a bit of a difference between shaving your head and listening to punk music and importing drugs for resale. We never had the police call around our house. Little Joshua is in the "Bingo book".

Water John

No they two are not equivalent.
Hash is being legitamised in many countries or certainly being treated as a misdemeanour. Don't see kiddee fiddling every being made legal and must be one of the worst crimes.

skooterblue2

Water John wrote: »

No they two are not equivalent.
Hash is being legitamised in many countries or certainly being treated as a misdemeanour. Don't see kiddee fiddling every being made legal and must be one of the worst crimes.

In some countries the legal ages for marriage is 14, in others its less. Do you think that is right? Does that diminish in the eyes of the law?

markodaly

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Nothing more pathetic than an addict.

Dear me, I see you have a lot of compassion in your heart. Sure you are a saint, never did anything wrong in your life.

To be honest, your comments in this thread and the disdain you have for people battling substance abuse is in of itself, pathetic.

Alcoholism and substance abuse is much more common than one thinks, and there is barely a family in Ireland who has not had someone close to them battle it. Now you can pretend its the 1920's where people had backward views on such things, but we do know that much of it, stems from mental health issues and traumatic events that occurred in their lives, oftentimes trauma, abuse both physically and mentally among others.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4861063/

We performed a cross-sectional analysis of data from 359 male and 111 female subjects recruited from an inpatient detoxification unit. The Inventory of Drug Use Consequences (InDUC), measured negative life consequences of substance use. Eighty-one percent of women and 69% of men report past PhySexAbuse, starting at a median age of 13 and 11, respectively

But I guess those 81% of women and 69% of men who are 'pathetic' addicts, who were molested since the median age of 13 or 11 sould just put on their big boy pants and live the saintly and pure life you your good self? If you can do it, sure anyone can :rolleyes:

To be honest, you come across as a terrible person, and I am being kind here.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

skooterblue2 wrote: »

There is a bit of a difference between shaving your head and listening to punk music and importing drugs for resale. We never had the police call around our house. Little Joshua is in the "Bingo book".

And if you don't a mansion, have a Spanish surname and dress in white all the time, then you can't be a drug dealer, correct?

Skooterblue is in the "red corner".

skooterblue2

markodaly wrote: »

Dear me, I see you have a lot of compassion in your heart. Sure you are a saint, never did anything wrong in your life.

To be honest, your comments in this thread and the disdain you have for people battling substance abuse is in of itself, pathetic.

Alcoholism and substance abuse is much more common than one thinks, and there is barely a family in Ireland who has not had someone close to them battle it. Now you can pretend its the 1920's where people had backward views on such things, but we do know that much of it, stems from mental health issues and traumatic events that occurred in their lives, oftentimes trauma, abuse both physically and mentally among others.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4861063/



But I guess those 81% of women and 69% of men who are 'pathetic' addicts, who were molested since the median age of 13 or 11 sould just put on their big boy pants and live the saintly and pure life you your good self? If you can do it, sure anyone can :rolleyes:

To be honest, you come across as a terrible person, and I am being kind here.

If I come across as cold you might wonder what made me this way. Junkies will sap your time and energy and bring down your quality of life. Made plenty of mistakes in my life but none involved the police or me doing jail time. I didnt molest them.

You are too kind with your compliments. Out in the real world if you cant swim you drown, and to quote a lecturer of mine "No one cares". If I had to give a euro with every junkie on the street with a story I would have nothing left for me.

ebbsy

He is probably in line to be the next minister for agriculture.

Ash.J.Williams

skooterblue2 wrote: »

If I come across as cold you might wonder what made me this way. Junkies will sap your time and energy and bring down your quality of life. Made plenty of mistakes in my life but none involved the police or me doing jail time. I didnt molest them.

You are too kind with your compliments. Out in the real world if you cant swim you drown, and to quote a lecturer of mine "No one cares". If I had to give a euro with every junkie on the street with a story I would have nothing left for me.

he's not a junkie

ohnonotgmail

ebbsy wrote: »

He is probably in line to be the next minister for agriculture.

at the rate we are going through them we will all have a turn

skooterblue2

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

And if you don't a mansion, have a Spanish surname and dress in white all the time, then you can't be a drug dealer, correct?

Its not for me to label a person a drug dealer that is the job of the justice system. Little Joshua had more than he could smoke and was deemed in court of law that he had intent to supply. take it up with the Judge.

skooterblue2

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

he's not a junkie

Sorry habitual user with no job prospects. just for you. Mark gets offended with the word Junkie.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Its not for me to label a person a drug dealer that is the job of the justice system. Little Joshua had more than he could smoke and was deemed in court of law that he had intent to supply. take it up with the Judge.

If it's not for you to label someone a drug dealer, then it's not for you to label someone a reble, so case closed on that little aspect of your facade.

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Sorry habitual user with no job prospects. just for you. Mark get offended with the word Junkie.

Jordan Belfort disagrees. As does Paul McCartney and all the other "habitual users with no job prospects" you were pulled up on some time ago. Another aspect of your facade closed.

skooterblue2

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

If it's not for you to label someone a drug dealer, then it's not for you to label someone a reble, so case closed on that little aspect of your facade.



Jordan Belfort disagrees. As does Paul McCartney and all the other "habitual users with no job prospects" you were pulled up on some time ago. Another aspect of your facade closed.

You pick the one in a millions for the rest of the planet we have to wade through their filth. How did Jordan Belfort end again? He lost everything, he lost other peoples money, ratted on his friends and ended up in jail where he belonged. Not a great example. Look you have faith in all these wastes of space, how about you dont buy Ryanair stocks and instead give an addict €1000 and see what the return on that will be.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

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Jordan Belfort disagrees. As does Paul McCartney and all the other "habitual users with no job prospects" you were pulled up on some time ago. Another aspect of your facade closed.

Paul McCartney's successes doesn't take away the fact that Joshua Allen has very little to no job prospects.

skooterblue2

Augeo wrote: »

Paul McCartney's successes doesn't take away the fact that Joshua Allen has very little to no job prospects.

I wouldnt say Joshua has no job prospects. I mean he isnt going to find the cure for cancer and to be male model you have to turn up sober and on time. Someone somewhere will have a use for him, it just might not be as glamorous as being a celebrity cook. It will probably be in the darker corners of Cork but sure if buys an ounce of hash its a living

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

skooterblue2 wrote: »

You pick the one in a millions for the rest of the planet we have to wade through their filth. How did Jordan Belfort end again? He lost everything, he lost other peoples money, ratted on his friends and ended up in jail where he belonged. Not a great example. Look you have faith in all these wastes of space, how about you dont buy Ryanair stocks and instead give an addict €1000 and see what the return on that will be.

So you can generalise but no one else can? Ok then. Glad that's sorted out.

Also, Jordan Belfort's downfall had nothing to do with drugs.

Augeo wrote: »

Paul McCartney's successes doesn't take away the fact that Joshua Allen has very little to no job prospects.

It wasn't supposed to. It was to prove that you can use cannabis and still be successful; which destroys Mr. Blue's stance. He seems to think the only options in life are star-studded celebrity (and apparently you can't get there on drugs... ) or dark corners of Cork.