Housing crisis solution

ygolometsipe

How about all us renters move to a cheap to live country like thailand for about 1-2 years.

Nobody pays anyone elses mortgage. Unless their rich, they default, we all come back and get morgages for ourselves.

I call it reverse exploitation.

begbysback

So what you saying is, you can't afford a mortgage so you rent, you are then going to move to Thailand to spend all of your savings, then miraculously return with enough money to get a mortgage

Can't see any flaws there....

zl1whqvjs75cdy

Defaulting doesn't lead to repossession here so you're ****ed.

Noveight

Plan is fairly flawed, apart from the savings you'd make on hookers.

Great value for money in Thailand... Or so I'm told.

ToddyDoody

I'd propose caravans. Get em cheap (used) over the net and let the homeless be on their way.

Your Face

I've a solution to the housing crisis - build more houses.

victor8600

ToddyDoody wrote: »

I'd propose caravans.

Or renters can build shacks for themselves and live there until rents come down!

Seth Brundle

Your Face wrote: »

I've a solution to the housing crisis - build more houses.

Yaay more urban sprawl with poor transport and facilities.

Your Face

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Yaay more urban sprawl with poor transport and facilities.

You assume too much.

Feisar

Your Face wrote: »

I've a solution to the housing crisis - build more houses.

That won't happen in a bubble though. The people that build them, the actual trades will be on high wages due to the cost of their rent/mortgage, therefore meaning they will be building expensive houses. The matierials used wont pop out of the sky, similar situation there.

dxhound2005

Your Face wrote: »

I've a solution to the housing crisis - build more houses.

There are plenty of houses. So many in fact that 176,000 people have more than one. Property Tax statistics for 2017.

https://www.revenue.ie/en/corporate/documents/statistics/lpt/local-property-tax-2017.pdf

Multiple Property Owners

There are around 176,000 individuals and other entities that are designated liable persons for two or more properties (this covers 551,000 properties). Properties owned by LocalAuthorities and approved housing bodies are excluded from the analysis.

Ray Palmer

dxhound2005 wrote: »

There are plenty of houses. So many in fact that 176,000 people have more than one. Property Tax statistics for 2017.

https://www.revenue.ie/en/corporate/documents/statistics/lpt/local-property-tax-2017.pdf

Multiple Property Owners

There are around 176,000 individuals and other entities that are designated liable persons for two or more properties (this covers 551,000 properties). Properties owned by LocalAuthorities and approved housing bodies are excluded from the analysis.

I own more than one property but as I rent them out they have a higher occupancy rate than privately owned property in the area. Rented property always has a higher occupancy because people rent the space they need while people who buy do so for what they may need and then keep it longer than the need they have.

Bubbaclaus

dxhound2005 wrote: »

There are plenty of houses. So many in fact that 176,000 people have more than one. Property Tax statistics for 2017.

https://www.revenue.ie/en/corporate/documents/statistics/lpt/local-property-tax-2017.pdf

Multiple Property Owners

There are around 176,000 individuals and other entities that are designated liable persons for two or more properties (this covers 551,000 properties). Properties owned by LocalAuthorities and approved housing bodies are excluded from the analysis.

You do realise the vast vast majority of those extra houses are being rented to people that , you know, rent?

Landlords have to live somewhere.

dxhound2005

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

You do realise the vast vast majority of those extra houses are being rented to people that , you know, rent?

Landlords have to live somewhere.

I have no way of knowing that. But as 121,000 of the 176,000 multiple owners have only 2 houses, I am making the assumption that a lot of them are holiday homes. Which could be used to house the homeless.

Bubbaclaus

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I have no way of knowing that. But as 121,000 of the 176,000 multiple owners have only 2 houses, I am making the assumption that a lot of them are holiday homes. Which could be used to house the homeless.

Why are you assuming that over them being a landlord with 1 rental property?

dxhound2005

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Why are you assuming that over them being a landlord with 1 rental property?

There is bound to be some of both. I said a lot of them. The holiday homes could be used to house the homeless.

Ray Palmer

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I have no way of knowing that. But as 121,000 of the 176,000 multiple owners have only 2 houses, I am making the assumption that a lot of them are holiday homes. Which could be used to house the homeless.

It's a ridiculous assumption

dxhound2005

It is a quicker solution to use existing empty properties than to wait for new ones to be built.

gctest50

dxhound2005 wrote: »

There are plenty of houses..........

There'll be a lot more soon :

Plug n play housing


http://www.thejournal.ie/modular-homes-dublin-city-council-housing-4220629-Sep2018

Dublin City Council issues €1bn tender for factory-built homes in effort to reduce social housing list

The council has plans to construct around 1,000 rapid-build homes at different locations throughout the city

dxhound2005

There are 200,000 empty houses in the country.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/theres-200000-empty-homes-ireland-11915348

colm_mcm

dxhound2005 wrote: »

It is a quicker solution to use existing empty properties than to wait for new ones to be built.

You can rev up and **** off if you think those that worked for a holiday home should have to give it up so some randomer who’s probably never done a tap of work in their life.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Your Face wrote: »

I've a solution to the housing crisis - build more houses.

Too radical.

Franz Von Peppercorn

colm_mcm wrote: »

You can rev up and **** off if you think those that worked for a holiday home should have to give it up so some randomer who’s probably never done a tap of work in their life.

Well just give the houses to tax paying PAYE renters. For a nominal sum.

Wheeliebin30

gctest50 wrote: »

There'll be a lot more soon :

Plug n play housing


http://www.thejournal.ie/modular-homes-dublin-city-council-housing-4220629-Sep2018

The left want 100’000 social houses.

Does that mean the tax payer would have to fork out 100 billion for the sponger class brigade???

You have got to be kidding.

Ray Palmer

dxhound2005 wrote: »

There are 200,000 empty houses in the country.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/theres-200000-empty-homes-ireland-11915348

How many people are in nursing homes? They can't rent the property out in that case.

Are you suggesting the state just seize the properties from people?

PWEI

There are 12 rooms/properties to rent in Castleknock on Daft altogether.
There are 29 rooms/properties in Castleknockon Air BnB.
It's not the main reason why there is a housing crisis but it is one of the main reasons why there is a shortage of rental rooms in the capital.
In Berlin as soon as locals were having difficulty finding rental accomadaiton & rents started increasing, they banned Air BnB.
It wouldn't solve the housing crisis but it would certainly free up a lot of rooms to rent.
But I doubt this government will do anything about Air BnB as so many TD's are also landlords so its in their interest to keep properties prices & rents high.

Sleeper12

ygolometsipe wrote:

Nobody pays anyone elses mortgage. Unless their rich, they default, we all come back and get morgages for ourselves.

You've missed the most important part. There is a housing shortage. Unless by the time you come back (with no money) there is a massive increase in the amount of housing you'll return to the same situation.

Wheeliebin30

PWEI wrote: »

There are 12 rooms/properties to rent in Castleknock on Daft altogether.
There are 29 rooms/properties in Castleknockon Air BnB.
It's not the main reason why there is a housing crisis but it is one of the main reasons why there is a shortage of rental rooms in the capital.
In Berlin as soon as locals were having difficulty finding rental accomadaiton & rents started increasing, they banned Air BnB.
It wouldn't solve the housing crisis but it would certainly free up a lot of rooms to rent.
But I doubt this government will do anything about Air BnB as so many TD's are also landlords so its in their interest to keep properties prices & rents high.

1 in 5 are landlords,

It’s hardly a huge amount to put your tinfoil hat on.

Most landlords are selling because the government has made it impossible with tax, rent caps, no way of getting a tenant out who doesn’t pay etc.

Away to the conspiracy theory forum with you.

dxhound2005

Ray Palmer wrote: »

How many people are in nursing homes? They can't rent the property out in that case.

Are you suggesting the state just seize the properties from people?

I have detected a great groundswell of sympathy for the homeless. I think that 10,000 of those people with an empty house would be willing to give them over to such a good cause.

begbysback

I love the Germans - they don't mess about

Ray Palmer

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I have detected a great groundswell of sympathy for the homeless. I think that 10,000 of those people with an empty house would be willing to give them over to such a good cause.

You are daft as a brush. Not going to happen why should only some people hand over a valuable asset

dxhound2005

Ray Palmer wrote: »

You are daft as a brush. Not going to happen why should only some people hand over a valuable asset

In a national emergency, drastic measures.

gctest50

begbysback wrote: »

I love the Germans - they don't mess about

Like AGFA Gevaert, BASF, Bayer & Sanofi's product :

Zyklon B

For when you have to murder 6 million people

riclad

If a large building is empty after 10 years ,it,ll be given to council,
they pay a small rent to the owner and convert into temprary homeless accomodation,
without damaging the building.
Eg see abbey street old irish times office.
The owner can take it back after a year if they wish to sell the building .
Theres 100,s of empty buildings in dublin.
Also apartment blocks have large spaces on the ground floor for retail use.
Many of these are empty as they are not in a good location,
or there is loads of shops in the area already.

Give em to charity ,eg cluid for a small fee,
say 100 euro a week.
I think these buidings are empty because they are old,
companys like google prefer to rent or buy new office buildings.
Theres loads of new offices being built on the southside of dublin.
Give landlords in citys or large towns 100 per cent tax credit for renting to people
on rent allowance.

Ray Palmer

dxhound2005 wrote: »

In a national emergency, drastic measures.

One minute you are saying people are going to willingly offer up them and then you are talking about state seizures

Idbatterim

PWEI wrote: »

There are 12 rooms/properties to rent in Castleknock on Daft altogether.
There are 29 rooms/properties in Castleknockon Air BnB.
It's not the main reason why there is a housing crisis but it is one of the main reasons why there is a shortage of rental rooms in the capital.
In Berlin as soon as locals were having difficulty finding rental accomadaiton & rents started increasing, they banned Air BnB.
It wouldn't solve the housing crisis but it would certainly free up a lot of rooms to rent.
But I doubt this government will do anything about Air BnB as so many TD's are also landlords so its in their interest to keep properties prices & rents high.

The reason is the councils, Councillors and politicians arent arsed doing anything about it! That saves the endless pages of filler here! I dont agree with the airbnb ban, the housing crisis is a disgrace, but that disgrace lies totally at government level, local and national! Why should that scum tell you who and who you cant rent YOUR property out too?

screamer

Trailer parks are the answer......

dxhound2005

Ray Palmer wrote: »

One minute you are saying people are going to willingly offer up them and then you are talking about state seizures

You convinced me that despite all the talk about the homeless, nobody is willing to help in a practical way.

screamer

Idbatterim wrote: »

PWEI wrote: »

There are 12 rooms/properties to rent in Castleknock on Daft altogether.
There are 29 rooms/properties in Castleknockon Air BnB.
It's not the main reason why there is a housing crisis but it is one of the main reasons why there is a shortage of rental rooms in the capital.
In Berlin as soon as locals were having difficulty finding rental accomadaiton & rents started increasing, they banned Air BnB.
It wouldn't solve the housing crisis but it would certainly free up a lot of rooms to rent.
But I doubt this government will do anything about Air BnB as so many TD's are also landlords so its in their interest to keep properties prices & rents high.

The reason is the councils, Councillors and politicians arent arsed doing anything about it! That saves the endless pages of filler here! I dont agree with the airbnb ban, the housing crisis is a disgrace, but that disgrace lies totally at government level, local and national! Why should that scum tell you who and who you cant rent YOUR property out too?

They're gonna tax air b n b out of existence, so rent to whoever if it's air b n b there'll be no point shortly as the tax will be punitive.

Apocalypse2018

id say government should force detached house owners to sell their house. demolish it and build 50 story apartment complex, if there are is no government owned land of course. ez solution right now government is not doing anything.....

Mailcoachinn

Cull all the scumbags. And when the “hug-a-thug” do-gooders start getting up in arms over what’s going on, cull them too. Plenty of empty houses after that. Housing crisis solved. Job done

dxhound2005

Mailcoachinn wrote: »

Cull all the scumbags. And when the “hug-a-thug” do-gooders start getting up in arms over what’s going on, cull them too. Plenty of empty houses after that. Housing crisis solved. Job done

I wish I had thought of that.

Ray Palmer

dxhound2005 wrote: »

You convinced me that despite all the talk about the homeless, nobody is willing to help in a practical way.

You expect only certain people contribute and sacrifice and most importantly you aren't the person who has to sacrifice

dxhound2005

Ray Palmer wrote: »

You expect only certain people contribute and sacrifice and most importantly you aren't the person who has to sacrifice

If I had two houses, they would both have people living in them.

Try_harder

Has anyone thought of workhouses?...

Idbatterim

the air bnb smokescreen is a convenient scapegoat for THEIR total and utter failure or mission accomplished, which ever side you are on....

ygolometsipe

Your Face wrote: »

I've a solution to the housing crisis - build more houses.

Lol, can ya smell that...

money....

News article in 3 months time.
"Goverment to demolish 10k houses due to fire safety...
The Government is also lowering landlord tax(vulture funds only) to help increase supply."

Big ad underneath article for Air B&B

ygolometsipe

begbysback wrote: »

to spend all of your savings, then miraculously return with enough money to get a mortgage

Can't see any flaws there....

Maybe ill get a job over there. I could walk elephants or something.

begbysback

Mailcoachinn wrote: »

Cull all the scumbags. And when the “hug-a-thug” do-gooders start getting up in arms over what’s going on, cull them too. Plenty of empty houses after that. Housing crisis solved. Job done

If we are going to start culling then can we start with low intelligence and work up?

Taytoland

The Ireland 2040 plan can only help..............

jim salter

victor8600 wrote: »

Or renters can build shacks for themselves and live there until rents come down!

This, is where we're heading.

Movies have been pre-programming us for years of this dystopia becoming reality in 'first-world' countries... "modular homes" yeah, right.... Shipping containers stacked and inhabited.