UFC 228 SUN. SEP. 9, 2018 WOODLEY VS. TILL

jamesbondings

mangobob wrote: »

Good to see Camacho up and about after that. That was vicious.

Felt bad for him - for a second there I thought he was gone. Dropped on impact and didn't move for at least a minute or so. Vicious knock out.....

mailburner

mailburner wrote: »

look back at the thread and you'll see more have gone for till but in
the poll it's the opposite

Nothing more than that....correct me if I'm wrong

The way I am looking at this Till v Woodley match is Till has never beat anyone in the top 5 at 170 (I am not including thompson because Till missed weight and controversial decision). Till might be the best in the world but he hasn't shown that in any way yet imo therefore I logic dictates that Woodley will walk through him....... If Till does win though we will have the next big superstar on our hands.

mailburner

Deleted User wrote: »

Who have you seen Till beat

wonderboy is all, yep liverpool probably a big factor there also I agree

I like his confidence though and up Till a couple of days ago I was backing woodley but have chickened out
flat out want to see him lose so bad that I've not bet on him apart from him to win in round five at 33/1

mailburner

mailburner wrote: »

wonderboy is all, yep liverpool probably a big factor there also I agree

I like his confidence though and up Till a couple of days ago I was backing woodley but have chickened out
flat out want to see him lose so bad that I've not bet on him apart from him to win in round five at 33/1

I am a Woodley fan I just thing Woodley is far to well rounded for him. In saying that Till could catch him in the first exchange and KO woodley

mailburner

mailburner wrote: »

They've been joint favs for nearly a week now with hills, money came for till after they first faced off due to the size difference no doubt

I'd have been posting those exact same words as you (when Woodley hit evens) and whilst I do think Woodley might win
I'm not over confident but I'm still taking that price about Woodley all day long

Edit didn't realise they were joint favs with nearly all the Bookies now
We'll surely get evens now
Woodley pts might be alright at 10/3 also

Saying that I'd still have a Saver on till pts at 6s, doubt he'll win any other way

Deleted User wrote: »

The way I am looking at this Till v Woodley match is Till has never beat anyone in the top 5 at 170 (I am not including thompson because Till missed weight and controversial decision). Till might be the best in the world but he hasn't shown that in any way yet imo therefore I logic dictates that Woodley will walk through him....... If Till does win though we will have the next big superstar on our hands.

posted this over a week ago which was betting with my head in fairness as we know what woodley brings to the table

till shouldnt be favourite for this though

jesus I'd back against anyone or any team to make a few quid but I want till to win so bad I just cant back woodley

mailburner

Deleted User wrote: »

I am a Woodley fan I just thing Woodley is far to well rounded for him. In saying that Till could catch him in the first exchange and KO woodley

he'll need to outwork him from the outset

cant wait to see if he can take that right hand though

mrkiscool2

Saw the replay from the Sterling fight...knee popped right out. Better than a cruciate ligament tear but ouch

mangobob

Call me crazy, but there is something about Till that reminds me of McGregor at the start of his UFC run. Both young, both have a certain raw intensity, honesty and charisma, although DT lacks McGregors mic skills. The speed of his ascent to a title fight resembles Conors. Even his stance in the cage is reminiscent to me.

To extend the analogy further, Woodley is Till's Aldo (albeit not nearly as dominant). Most people expected Aldo to have too much for McGregor, and I think the same is true here. I wonder if history will repeat itself.

Amazingfun

It's not crazy at all, have been hearing comments on the two for a while now, and I agree!

martyos121

mangobob wrote: »

Call me crazy, but there is something about Till that reminds me of McGregor at the start of his UFC run. Both young, both have a certain raw intensity, honesty and charisma, although DT lacks McGregors mic skills. The speed of his ascent to a title fight resembles Conors. Even his stance in the cage is reminiscent to me.

To extend the analogy further, Woodley is Till's Aldo (albeit not nearly as dominant). Most people expected Aldo to have too much for McGregor, and I think the same is true here. I wonder if history will repeat itself.

I’d say Woodley is much more akin to Till’s Mendes than his Aldo, if you’re making that analogy. There’s a lot more parallels between those two.

mrkiscool2

mangobob wrote: »

Call me crazy, but there is something about Till that reminds me of McGregor at the start of his UFC run. Both young, both have a certain raw intensity, honesty and charisma, although DT lacks McGregors mic skills. The speed of his ascent to a title fight resembles Conors. Even his stance in the cage is reminiscent to me.

To extend the analogy further, Woodley is Till's Aldo (albeit not nearly as dominant). Most people expected Aldo to have too much for McGregor, and I think the same is true here. I wonder if history will repeat itself.

I see that too but I also see 2 key differences
1. Till has the charisma of a paper bag. He is so boring outside the octagon. He tries to be more charismatic but he is the Gerard of the UFC. All the talent and excitement in competition, as dull as a bread knife outside it.

2. Till is like "This is for Liverpool" vs McGregor's "this is for my country". It frustrates me. Bisping was always proud of being English. Till couldn't care less, it's never about England, it's all about Liverpool (which is a sh1te city when it's not a proper night out or game day). I don't know why that annoys me, but it does. He's one of the rare fighters to have a sense of pride of where he is from but not his country. Slightly frustrating.

Again, 1 is far bigger than 2. At least Woodley is actually good at trash talk. Also, Till said he'd beat McGregor cause "He is smaller than me" and then said he'd tire Lesnar out. Bish, exact same principles apply.

martyos121

This is going the way of Shevchenko’s last fight, thank god Yamasaki isn’t in there!

Tatiana is a beast.

mangobob

Thats a 10-8 if ever I saw one lol

Axwell

Such dominance, Suarez throwing her around the cage.

mangobob

martyos121 wrote: »

I’d say Woodley is much more akin to Till’s Mendes than his Aldo, if you’re making that analogy. There’s a lot more parallels between those two.

Oh for sure, its just that Woodley is the champ and a dominant one at that, a la Aldo. Mendes never was. But I get where you are coming from.

martyos121

I remember seeing Suarez coast through TUF thinking “that’s a future champ 100%”. Her grappling seems so far ahead of anyone in the division that she could negate the top strikers and just beat the grapplers. Esparza is a top class grappler in her division, it just shows how dominant Suarez is.

Eircom_Sucks

Tatiana is a ride

Mount me anyday

mangobob

"Dont stay long in these wrestling exchanges". Easier said than done DC...

Subcomandante Marcos

That was a Khabib-esque beat down. Super impressive.

CatFromHue

mangobob wrote: »

Call me crazy, but there is something about Till that reminds me of McGregor at the start of his UFC run. Both young, both have a certain raw intensity, honesty and charisma, although DT lacks McGregors mic skills. The speed of his ascent to a title fight resembles Conors. Even his stance in the cage is reminiscent to me.

To extend the analogy further, Woodley is Till's Aldo (albeit not nearly as dominant). Most people expected Aldo to have too much for McGregor, and I think the same is true here. I wonder if history will repeat itself.

Not for me.

I don't mean this in a bad way, but I think people underestimate how good McGregor's path to the Aldo fight was.

4 TKOs and a decision when he had bogey knee and then add in the TKO of Mendes.

Till has had a draw, 1 TKO of Cerrone who probably shouldn't have taken the fight in the first place, and 3 decision wins. One of which was very close.

Axwell

Crazy dominant performance. Future champ there for sure.

mailburner

who wants to fight suarez next? :pac:

it's gonna be like khabib here all over again with nobody wanting to fight her
wins two more and she's champ

who can stop those takedowns?

martyos121

81-0 in significant strikes.

Jesus H. Christ, that is frightening.

Axwell

martyos121 wrote: »

81-0 in significant strikes.

Jesus H. Christ, that is frightening.

11.46 in top position as well..crazy

Amazingfun

This woman lived through Thyroid cancer--- incredible drive and yes indeed, very inspiring. Instant fan I am.

mailburner

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

1. Till has the charisma of a paper bag. He is so boring outside the octagon. He tries to be more charismatic but he is the Gerard of the UFC. All the talent and excitement in competition, as dull as a bread knife outside it.

2. Till is like "This is for Liverpool" vs McGregor's "this is for my country". It frustrates me. Bisping was always proud of being English. Till couldn't care less, it's never about England, it's all about Liverpool (which is a sh1te city when it's not a proper night out or game day). I don't know why that annoys me, but it does. He's one of the rare fighters to have a sense of pride of where he is from but not his country. Slightly frustrating.

Again, 1 is far bigger than 2. At least Woodley is actually good at trash talk. Also, Till said he'd beat McGregor cause "He is smaller than me" and then said he'd tire Lesnar out. Bish, exact same principles apply.

you could listen to bisping all day and his trash talk was better than everybodys straight off the cuff and well ahead of conor there

I really like till as a fighter and I like his confidence but after about a minute listening to him I always think about hitting the mute button...just painful!
The gerard comparison is spot on though, even caragher for me.

mailburner

fight of the night coming right up folks

martyos121

mailburner wrote: »

fight of the night coming right up folks

My pick for FOTN too, Price by TKO late in the third I reckon.

Axwell

Yeah potential here for an absolute war and KO finish

mailburner

martyos121 wrote: »

My pick for FOTN too, Price by TKO late in the third I reckon.

have price backed and on pts
but also have what I think are cover bets on both to win in round three (11s+14s)

big price fan, think he has a big future

Axwell

Elton John as a walkout song, never thought id see that

mailburner

fcuk

Subcomandante Marcos

that was fun.

KingJamsie

What a start

Axwell

Damnnn

martyos121

Jesus. He was out after the first hook, two more on the way down for good measure. ARA is a killer!

mangobob

CatFromHue wrote: »

Not for me.

I don't mean this in a bad way, but I think people underestimate how good McGregor's path to the Aldo fight was.

4 TKOs and a decision when he had bogey knee and then add in the TKO of Mendes.

Till has had a draw, 1 TKO of Cerrone who probably shouldn't have taken the fight in the first place, and 3 decision wins. One of which was very close.

Well I dont mean that the parallels are exact, nor am I saying that they or their respective runs are identical. Merely that there are a few things about Till that reminds of me of McGregor. Aspects of their character, their speed of ascent to the titleshot and headlining a PPV, and even in the cage, that upright stance and his blatant size advantage are all reminiscent for me of Conor.

But fundamentally I agree with you, CM's run was the more impressive of the two, all things considered. Although the likes of Brimage, Brandao and Siver are not exactly the cream of the crop, you can only beat whats in front of you, and he demolished almost everyone they put in front of him, with the exception of the current champion who he still convincingly beat on one leg. You also have to factor in how he disposed of such a dominant champion in spectacular fashion, having absolutely mind f*cked him beforehand.

Till certainly doesn't have that mental warefare game, and I dont see him replicating that kind of performance in the octagon tonight either. But lets see.

martyos121

If Dodson meets a similar fate to Price here, I will be delighted.

The White Feather

mangobob wrote: »

Thats a 10-8 if ever I saw one lol

It's unbelievable but one judge gave a 10 8 round to Carla in the Suarez fight earlier

Had to have got them mixed up. Shows how clueless some of them are

https://twitter.com/shaunalshatti/status/1038615309689733120?s=19

mangobob

The White Feather wrote: »

It's unbelievable but one judge gave a 10 8 round to Carla in the Suarez fight earlier

Had to have got them mixed up. Shows how clueless some of them are

https://twitter.com/shaunalshatti/status/1038615309689733120?s=19

:eek::eek::eek:

There really needs to be mandatory breathalyzing for judges in mma...thats just shocking.

mangobob

Hate when crowds boo fighters like this. Sometimes its justified when fighters are refusing to engage. This is clearly not one of those fights.

CatFromHue

The White Feather wrote: »

It's unbelievable but one judge gave a 10 8 round to Carla in the Suarez fight earlier

Had to have got them mixed up. Shows how clueless some of them are

https://twitter.com/shaunalshatti/status/1038615309689733120?s=19

This happened to ryan Burnett in boxing

He won a split decision 119-107, 119-107, 108-118

It turned out the third judge had the fighters wrong

martyos121

Good performance from Rivera, clearly the better fighter. Probably won’t cause huge problems for the likes of TJ, Cruz and Cody though.

Still Ill

Can they both lose?

KingJamsie

KingJamsie wrote: »

Gonna go with Jimmie by decision

Jimmie gets it done. Hopefully he takes the Sterling fight next

martyos121

Time for Zabeast, been looking forward to this since the moment his last fight ended.

Axwell

Zabit is a great addition to the division, exciting fighter and another potential future champ. Finish by sub here.

KingJamsie

Be great if Woodley Till starts 5am

Subcomandante Marcos

Zabit is a freak.

martyos121

Holy shît, two in one night!