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Why do Charlie Haughey's family still own an island?

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  • #102
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Bertie forced us all to queue for 3days so we could get our hands on phase 3 of the meadows!
    Big bad Bertie..sure he ruined the country.

    Ahern told people to go kill themselves if they questioned the (artificial) boom.

    He is a scumbag.


  • #103
    BENDYBINN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    Ahern told people to go kill themselves if they questioned the (artificial) boom.

    He is a scumbag.

    Cheap shot.....
    A country’s leader should always talk up the economy.


  • #104
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Cheap shot.....
    A country’s leader should always talk up the economy.

    A country's leader does not tell critics to go kill themselves.

    Particularly in a country with some of the highest suicide rates for young people in Europe.


  • #105
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    A country's leader does not tell critics to go kill themselves.

    Particularly in a country with some of the highest suicide rates for young people in Europe.

    Except he didn’t tell anyone to go kill themselves as you claim.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • #106
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Except he didn’t tell anyone to go kill themselves as you claim.

    'Sitting on the sidelines, cribbing and moaning is a lost opportunity. I don't know how people who engage in that don't commit suicide because frankly the only thing that motivates me is being able to actively change something,' - Ahern at the Irish Congress of Trade Unions conference back in 2007.

    Still want to engage in this revisionism for your "Dear Leader"?


  • #107
    Irish Kings
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭Irish Kings


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Cheap shot.....
    A country’s leader should always talk up the economy.

    tell lies you mean ?


  • #108
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    'Sitting on the sidelines, cribbing and moaning is a lost opportunity. I don't know how people who engage in that don't commit suicide because frankly the only thing that motivates me is being able to actively change something,'

    Still want to engage in this revisionism for your "Dear Leader"?

    Putting the words commit suicide in bold does not make your claim correct. Where does he tell people, as you claim to commit suicide?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • #109
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Give me dig out Bertie any day over “**** the peace process” John Bruton.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/3602603/A-noble-but-doomed-attempt-to-lift-the-debate-on-Northern-Ireland.html

    Have you ever considered the Fine Gael counter revolution and the links with the Society of Jesus (Jesuits) such as The Clongowes old boy network?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • #110
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    A country's leader does not tell critics to go kill themselves.

    Particularly in a country with some of the highest suicide rates for young people in Europe.
    Doublethink Orwell would be proud of from these folk who pretend Haughey and Ahern's corruption was a-ok just because they were in opposition to Fine Gael, and no other reason. Both sides could be criticised of course, but for some, it is simply unfeasible to admit to faults on the side they support.


  • #111
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Toby Round Violin wrote: »
    Doublethink Orwell would be proud of from these folk who pretend Haughey and Ahern's corruption was a-ok just because they were in opposition to Fine Gael, and no other reason. Both sides could be criticised of course, but for some, it is simply unfeasible to admit to faults on the side they support.


    There are skeletons in the closets of all Irish political parties. In some cases more literally than others. Arguably the greatest corruption in the history of the state was under the watch of Fine Gael minister Michael Lowery. Perhaps only the Greens, of Irish political parties are without major scandal such as murder, child abuse, treason and corruption.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • #112
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Lowry - bad; Haughey and Ahern - grand.

    You couldn't make it up.

    How about all three were bad?


  • #113
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Toby Round Violin wrote: »
    Lowry - bad; Haughey and Ahern - grand.

    You couldn't make it up.

    How about all three were bad?

    How about the white Nelson Mandela not being without sin either and some very dodgy, criminal elements in Labour and we could agree.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • #114
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    How about the white Nelson Mandela not being without sin either and some very dodgy, criminal elements in Labour and we could agree.
    I don't know who you mean by white Nelson Mandela but yeah obviously - where have I indicated otherwise? Should ticking all five boxes be necessary before you agree that the three previously mentioned were all crooked?


  • #115
    Irish Kings
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭Irish Kings


    Romour has it CJ is not dead at all, it was a tax dodge, and he's living it up in a chateau in the south of France.


  • #116
    Are Am Eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye


    Irish Kings wrote: »
    Romour has it CJ is not dead at all, it was a tax dodge, and he's living it up in a chateau in the south of France.

    Apparently he imports his shirts from Ireland.


  • #117
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,004 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Are Am Eye wrote: »
    Apparently he imports his shirts from Ireland.

    Charleville Shirts. :p


  • #118
    BENDYBINN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Lovely Leo suggests setting up fake accounts online so he can brainwash the people.
    Imagine the outcry if Bertie had tried that.


  • #119
    Jim Bob Scratcher
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Lovely Leo suggests setting up fake accounts online so he can brainwash the people.
    Imagine the outcry if Bertie had tried that.

    Leo gets away it because he has nice socks.


  • #120
    GhostyMcGhost
    Registered Users Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭GhostyMcGhost


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Lovely Leo suggests setting up fake accounts online so he can brainwash the people.
    Imagine the outcry if Bertie had tried that.

    Bertie doesn't own a computer


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  • #121
    jjmcclure
    Registered Users Posts: 575 ✭✭✭jjmcclure


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Oh and he had a mistress too, upon whom he lavished many gifts also.

    Must have been humiliating for his dear wife and children to know this. But they (perhaps apart from the real wife RIP) didn't care.

    Shame on those in North Co. Dublin who voted for this neanderthal, and who elected one of his sons subsequently too.

    There is no saving this country from admiration of criminality and dodgy dealing. Is there?


    I'd take 10 Charlies over one Paul Murphy, Ruth Copperwhinger or Rich Boy Barrett any day


  • #122
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,973 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    jjmcclure wrote: »
    I'd take 10 Charlies over one Paul Murphy, Ruth Copperwhinger or Rich Boy Barrett any day

    You do realise there's other choices on the ballot aside from crooks and communists?


  • #123
    jjmcclure
    Registered Users Posts: 575 ✭✭✭jjmcclure


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    You do realise there's other choices on the ballot aside from crooks and communists?


    You really think so? Our entire political spectrum has swung to a strongly socialist agenda. A benefits and entitlement culture fostered by weak politicians!


  • #124
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    jjmcclure wrote: »
    You really think so? Our entire political spectrum has swung to a strongly socialist agenda. A benefits and entitlement culture fostered by weak politicians!

    Well as this thread highlighted Ireland can be socialist for rich and for poor. The poor get discounted rent and the rich get to keep an island!


  • #125
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Lovely Leo suggests setting up fake accounts online so he can brainwash the people.
    Imagine the outcry if Bertie had tried that.
    I disagree with both of their carry-on.
    jjmcclure wrote: »
    I'd take 10 Charlies over one Paul Murphy, Ruth Copperwhinger or Rich Boy Barrett any day
    I wouldn't take any of them.

    The acceptance of being screwed over is bizarre.


  • #126
    [Deleted User]
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    Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »
    Why? Shouldn't CAB have been able to seize it.

    Maybe the same way Denis O Brien accrued his wealth in Ireland?

    Are you jealous? They inherited it fair and square.


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  • #127
    Irish Kings
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭Irish Kings


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    You do realise there's other choices on the ballot aside from crooks and communists?

    Is there feck. Honest people don't go into Irish politics.


  • #128
    BENDYBINN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Toby Round Violin wrote: »
    I disagree with both of their carry-on.

    I wouldn't take any of them.

    The acceptance of being screwed over is bizarre.

    Lovely Leo would never do that.


  • #129
    Irish Kings
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭Irish Kings


    Toby Round Violin wrote: »
    I wouldn't take any of them.

    The acceptance of being screwed over is bizarre.

    Indeed, but the rest of the Irish public are quite happy to keep voting for liars and crooks, hence the mess, and hence there is and will be no alternatives.


  • #130
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,004 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    jjmcclure wrote: »
    I'd take 10 Charlies over one Paul Murphy, Ruth Copperwhinger or Rich Boy Barrett any day

    Oh I agree with you. But did you notice that CJH is deceased. :eek:

    Ni bheidh a leithead aris ann. Thankfully.


  • #131
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Lovely Leo would never do that.
    Dunno whether he would or not, but corruption is corruption, and it shouldn't be ok when by the "right" person. Certainly people who think Haughey and Bertie were brilliant are in absolutely no position to criticise corruption or exploitation by absolutely anyone else.
    Irish Kings wrote: »
    Indeed, but the rest of the Irish public are quite happy to keep voting for liars and crooks, hence the mess, and hence there is and will be no alternatives.
    The rest of the Irish public?


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