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Vuelta 2018 stage 14:Cistierna - Les Praeres de Nava 171km

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    #32
    Inquitus
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    All splitting to bits on the lower slopes.


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    #33
    retalivity
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    All that work from bahrain and izaguirre is nowhere immediately


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    #34
    joujoujou
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    Most of GC contenders still up front.


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    #35
    joujoujou
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    Yates takes stage and red jersey.


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    #36
    Inquitus
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    joujoujou wrote: »
    Yates takes stage and red jersey.

    He made back around the 5 seconds, maybe a couple of more, that he lost to Quintana yesterday there. Quintana just seems to lack the faith in himself to keep it going when he attacks and gets a gap.


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    ..Is Quintana the worst GC contender of his generation?

    Awful tactician.


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    TheBlaaMan wrote: »
    ..Is Quintana the worst GC contender of his generation?

    Awful tactician.

    Agreed, very hard to fathom what on earth he was trying to do there!


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    dastardly00
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    I can't believe that neither Quintana or Superman Lopez didn't win that stage... they had the legs. Chapeau to Yates, he grabbed the opportunity when the others were too busy looking at each other


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    #40
    retalivity
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    I reckon the narrative is already set, Quintana was blamed before about not attacking and sitting on wheels. This time, he attacked and brought lopez with him, but he wouldnt help. That's fair enough.

    The fact Kirby wouldnt shut up about it either for the last 15 mins...


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    #41
    Inquitus
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    dastardly00 wrote: »
    I can't believe that neither Quintana or Superman Lopez didn't win that stage... they had the legs. Chapeau to Yates, he grabbed the opportunity when the others were too busy looking at each other

    Agreed, MAL seems to have the best climbing legs in the race, Quintana seems to have no tactical nouse whatsoever, and Yates was able to capitalise when he didn't seem to be the strongest man on that mountain, just used his Purito like last km skills having been allowed back on each time riders went up the road and started looking at each other!


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    dastardly00 wrote: »
    [...] Chapeau to Yates, he grabbed the opportunity when the others were too busy looking at each other

    Like yesterday's stage winner, I'd say. :)


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    #43
    Inquitus
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    Rough TT Estimates on the 32km flattish TT

    Valverde 0.00
    Yates +30secs
    Quintana +1 minutes
    Miguel Angel Lopez + 1.30 secs

    There's some other decent TTers who could still be in contention I guess, but these 4 seem to be the emerging favourites.

    Tomorrow's final climb is a brute as well, perhaps more suited to Quintana

    2e367


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    #44
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    Stage Results

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    GC Standings

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    TheBlaaMan wrote: »
    ..Is Quintana the worst GC contender of his generation?

    Awful tactician.

    I can only imagine what his DS is like in the car hearing what is going on.

    He could have had the stage & red jersey today with a decent gap.


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    TheBlaaMan
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    dahat wrote: »
    I can only imagine what his DS is like in the car hearing what is going on.

    He could have had the stage & red jersey today with a decent gap.

    Who knows whats going on with Quintana. He clearly has enormous natural ability which allows him to climb in conditions that are optimum for his talent (as we saw in the Tour), but beyond that, it seems, most of the time, that he is either overcome with doubt/fear or just plans badly. I dont think it is the 'you have to be prepared to lose in order to try to win' strategy that you see with some of the other contenders. He sure is frustrating to watch,


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    TheBlaaMan wrote: »
    Who knows whats going on with Quintana. He clearly has enormous natural ability which allows him to climb in conditions that are optimum for his talent (as we saw in the Tour), but beyond that, it seems, most of the time, that he is either overcome with doubt/fear or just plans badly. I dont think it is the 'you have to be prepared to lose in order to try to win' strategy that you see with some of the other contenders. He sure is frustrating to watch,

    Absolute lack of confidence in his own ability to drive on.


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    Even Kirby got it right on commentary re: Quintana having to invest sometimes. Even if he'd taken lopez with him and finished second he'd have likely taken the jersey. Infuriating to watch as he's looked very good so far here.


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    dastardly00
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    Update on Louis Meintjes

    https://twitter.com/TeamDiData/status/1038516084591259648

    Dr Jarrad van Zuydam – Team Doctor
    Louis had a nasty crash on a descent today while trying to chase back to the front group. He crashed on a corner and rolled down an embankment. He has suffered some injuries, he has a big laceration to the left elbow which required stitches. He has various other lacerations and abrasions which are relatively minor and wont need much more then cleaning and dressing.

    There was obviously some concern when we saw the footage of the crash, because of the way Louis stumbled and there were concerns of a potential head injury and concussion in particular. Louis has been assessed thoroughly and he currently does not show any symptoms of a concussion.

    He will be reassessed in the morning and if he passes that test he will undergo an exercise stress test to see if that induces any symptoms before we give any go-ahead for him to race.


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