Female and male umpires in tennis

Sassygirl1999 · 10-09-2018 2:57pm #1

Should make umpires rule on male games only and females rule on female games omky from now on? I think it's a good idea

Peatys · 10-09-2018 2:59pm

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

Should make umpires rule on male games only and females rule on female games omky from now on? I think it's a good idea

Why?

Fighting Tao · 10-09-2018 2:59pm

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

Should make umpires rule on male games only and females rule on female games omky from now on? I think it's a good idea

Great for equality!

Relikk · 10-09-2018 3:00pm

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

Should make umpires rule on male games only and females rule on female games omky from now on? I think it's a good idea

Sexist!

:pac:

granturismo · 10-09-2018 3:03pm

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

Should make umpires rule on male games only and females rule on female games omky from now on? I think it's a good idea

Are you trying to say that tennis matches with male players should have umpires and female matches can have any female refereeing? Mky.

What about mixed doubles or where players identify off the binary gender scale.

muckwarrior · 10-09-2018 3:03pm

Why stop at tennis? If you're to do this then surely it should be done for all sports. I'd say all the female officials in various sports would love to be told they can't officiate male games. :rolleyes:

per aspera ad astra · 10-09-2018 3:04pm

How about we all just stay away from each other from now on – and die out. It'll only take 100 years – then we'll all be gone. Is that what you want?

granturismo · 10-09-2018 3:06pm

Tennis wont need umpires if players are required to be parents, cos parents dont cheat.

Kintarō Hattori · 10-09-2018 3:07pm

Gender neutral umpires and referees all the way.

Feisar · 10-09-2018 3:08pm

granturismo wrote: »

Tennis wont need umpires if players are required to be parents, cos parents dont cheat.

As a parent Joe

PlaneSpeeking · 10-09-2018 3:10pm

How about Serena just stops whining like hell and tries sportsmanship ?

Sexism in tennis alright - against men, same money for more work.

PlaneSpeeking · 10-09-2018 3:11pm

granturismo wrote: »

Tennis wont need umpires if players are required to be parents, cos parents dont cheat.

God I hope this was a joke am too knackered to get.

Sassygirl1999 · 10-09-2018 3:13pm

Clearly our emotional frameworks are different so if ruled upon by someone with the same emotional framework it would make the outcome fairer

per aspera ad astra · 10-09-2018 3:15pm

I identify as an Aardvark OP. What about me? Who's going to umpire me? You're so narrow-minded and bigoted! It's all about males and females with people like you – do you realise how bigoted and hateful that is? I am an Aardvark – and you are deliberately excluding me because i am Orycteropodidae. IT IS WRONG!!

Fighting Tao · 10-09-2018 3:16pm

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

Clearly our emotional frameworks are differently so if ruled upon by someone with the same emotional framework it would make the outcome fairer

Abiding by the rules and accepting the penalty when they are broken would be fairer. That doesn’t need the same gender as referee.

PlaneSpeeking · 10-09-2018 3:17pm

per aspera ad astra wrote: »

I identify as an Aardvark OP. What about me? Who's going to umpire me? You're so narrow-minded and bigoted! It's all about males and females with people like you – do you realise how bigoted and hateful that is? I am an Aardvark – and you are deliberately excluding me because i am Orycteropodidae. IT IS WRONG!!

Game, Aardvark.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 10-09-2018 3:20pm

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

Clearly our emotional frameworks are different so if ruled upon by someone with the same emotional framework it would make the outcome fairer

But emotion shouldn't enter the equation, the umpire is impartial and ensures that the rules of the game are adhered to, it's black and white, written a book rules.

PlaneSpeeking · 10-09-2018 3:21pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

But emotion shouldn't enter the equation, the umpire is impartial and ensures that the rules of the game are adhered to, it's black and white, written a book rules.

Yes but according to the feminists men would never be treated like that.

Which is bollocks.

irelandrover · 10-09-2018 3:23pm

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

Clearly our emotional frameworks are different so if ruled upon by someone with the same emotional framework it would make the outcome fairer

Are you saying that when the women get a bit emotional that the rules would then be ignored?

Fighting Tao · 10-09-2018 3:24pm

So a male garda should only apprehend male criminals and female grads only apprehend females?

Sassygirl1999 · 10-09-2018 3:41pm

Fighting Tao wrote: »

So a male garda should only apprehend male criminals and female grads only apprehend females?

This is sometimes the case

Fighting Tao · 10-09-2018 3:45pm

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

This is sometimes the case

No it’s not. However, searching a suspect is usually carried out by someone of the same gender.

pickarooney · 10-09-2018 3:46pm

badbot

10-09-2018 3:46pm

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

Should make umpires rule on male games only and females rule on female games omky from now on? I think it's a good idea

Bring back partition while you're at it.

El_Duderino 09 · 10-09-2018 3:53pm

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

Should make umpires rule on male games only and females rule on female games omky from now on? I think it's a good idea

Why do you think it’s a good idea?

Are there problems caused by Male umpires that would be solved by female umpires and vice versa?

Tell me how · 10-09-2018 3:57pm

I'm not a parent so obviously I cannot take part in this discussion.

:(:(:(

(if I could, I'd say the OP's suggestion was nonsense)

kneemos · 10-09-2018 4:03pm

She has a history of threatening umpires with violence.
She told one female umpire she was going to stuff a ****ing ball down her throat and another that if she saw them on the street she had better cross the road.

Don't think gender is the issue here.

Feisar · 10-09-2018 4:05pm

I have to say fair play to Serena Williams, she is inadvertently highlighting the level of bull**** that is becoming acceptable.

Sassygirl1999 · 10-09-2018 4:32pm

As a middle ground -when a female game- male umpires call the normal stuff but reprimanding or sanctioning can only be done by a second female umpire , in the same way only a male guard can search a male prisoner and a female guard a female prisoner hence they could expand the umpire team to even things out

El_Duderino 09 · 10-09-2018 4:35pm

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

As a middle ground -when a female game- male umpires call the normal stuff but reprimanding or sanctioning can only be done by a second female umpire , in the same way only a male guard can search a male prisoner and a female guard a female prisoner hence they could expand the umpire team to even things out

I can’t for the life of me figure out what problem that would solve.

muckwarrior · 10-09-2018 4:35pm

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

As a middle ground -when a female game- male umpires call the normal stuff but reprimanding or sanctioning can only be done by a second female umpire , in the same way only a male guard can search a male prisoner and a female guard a female prisoner hence they could expand the umpire team to even things out

At first I wasn't sure, but now I know you're just trolling.

Sassygirl1999 · 10-09-2018 4:37pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I can’t for the life of me figure out what problem that would solve.

It would mean that a person with the same emotional framework would be responsible for the grey areas of sanctioning and reprimanding but any gender could call the black and white stuff ie the rules of tennis

per aspera ad astra · 10-09-2018 4:42pm

Just tennis? Or will we apply this "emotional framework" to everything?

Fighting Tao · 10-09-2018 4:42pm

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

It would mean that a person with the same emotional framework would be responsible for the grey areas of sanctioning and reprimanding but any gender could call the black and white stuff ie the rules of tennis

Emotion shouldn’t come into applying a games rules.

El_Duderino 09 · 10-09-2018 4:45pm

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I can’t for the life of me figure out what problem that would solve.

It would mean that a person with the same emotional framework would be responsible for the grey areas of sanctioning and reprimanding but any gender could call the black and white stuff ie the rules of tennis

The umpire should definitely not work with the same emotional framework as the player. She was wound up and out of order emotionally - not because of her gender but because she was involved in a very high stakes match. The umpire should be emotionally detached and apply the rules. That’s a very different emotional state than a player. I don’t know what ‘emotional framework’ should have to do with it.

I

Sassygirl1999 · 10-09-2018 4:46pm

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Emotion shouldn’t come into applying a games rules.

The TWA clearly feel they should

Fighting Tao · 10-09-2018 4:51pm

Sassygirl1999 wrote: »

The TWA clearly feel they should

I think you should stick your hand in the fire. Does that mean you should?

Mr. CooL ICE · 10-09-2018 4:54pm

Mod: No need for another tennis/Williams thread

Female and male umpires in tennis

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