The Frederick St protest and reaction

Hurrache

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Of course not. I

Of course as we are now well aware, or ought to be, AGS actions can have consequences well beyond their ranks. If somehow this has escaped your attention, you might want to ask the last two Justice Ministers for their opinion on this.

And again I'll ask, what actions?

weldoninhio

Sheeps wrote: »

What planet are you on?

Earth, it has a union of countries called U.K. & NI where tax and insurance aren’t displayed on the windscreen.

Sheeps

weldoninhio wrote: »

Earth, it has a union of countries called U.K. & NI where tax and insurance aren’t displayed on the windscreen.

Did you know that Dublin is in the Republic of Ireland.

steves2

steves2 wrote: »

Can't say I support the protesters as I don't see what good it'll do, but how can the group of "heavies" turn up in a van with no tax or insurance and no reg plate on the front? And all the guards around them? If that's all true then how come that wasn't highlighted more?

They aren't the ones who broke the Law. They were executing a court order, supported by the Gardai. As already pointed out our neighbours up North don't need tax or insurance disks on their vehicles.
The occupants of the house left quietly. It was the rabble outside that caused trouble and some were arrested.

end of the road

blackwhite wrote: »

Back to targetting the actual workers again - might as well take their frustrations out on the people who fund their lifestyles

Scumbags always gonna be scum I guess - and their like-minded supporters will defend them to the hilt no matter what

i'd imagine a lot of those protesters are themselves workers. i know it's hard for some to think that people don't work shifts other then 9 to 5 but funnily enough, they do.

weldoninhio

Sheeps wrote: »

Did you know that Dublin is in the Republic of Ireland.

I do. I also have friends who are from Dublin but live in NI who visit home to see their friends and family. Their windscreen doesnt magically gain a tax disc or insurance disc when they cross the border into ROI. Once they have the relevant documents when requested by AGS they’ve never had any issues.

In much the same way your steering wheel doesn’t leap sides if you drive to the continent.

blackwhite

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Quite so. In fact I remember Paul Murphy, RBB and Joe Higgins telling us all to chillax back in 2007, that the property market was headed for a soft landing.

Both RBB and Higgins were whinging that public sector spending was too low at the time.

Thankfully all three let their masks slip every now and again - supporting the scum blocking who are blocking commuters in Dublin this evening just shows contempt for the workers of Ireland.

Utter scumbags on O’Connell Bridge this evening - and anyone who cheerleads for them is every bit as bad.

Amirani

steves2 wrote: »

Can't say I support the protesters as I don't see what good it'll do, but how can the group of "heavies" turn up in a van with no tax or insurance and no reg plate on the front? And all the guards around them? If that's all true then how come that wasn't highlighted more?

Gardai confirmed tax and insurance was fine, was in Irish Times. Didn't answer question about front registration plate.

Ginger83

Deleted User wrote: »

They aren't the ones who broke the Law. They were executing a court order, supported by the Gardai. As already pointed out our neighbours up North don't need tax or insurance disks on their vehicles.
The occupants of the house left quietly. It was the rabble outside that caused trouble and some were arrested.

But they need VALID tax, insurance, mot, plates!!!

Ginger83

Ginger83 wrote: »

But they need VALID tax, insurance, mot, plates!!!

Do you KNOW that they weren't valid?

weldoninhio

Ginger83 wrote: »

But they need VALID tax, insurance, mot, plates!!!

The type of tax, insurance, MOT that the Gardaí have confirmed was all ship shape and above board in the IT??

It did have a back plate. The front one may have fallen off on the way down the motorway.

White_hills

Super-Rush wrote: »

Yeah I'm sure people on their way home after a hard days work will want to support these dicks who would rather do this than get an actual job.

I have a job, a good professional one at that and I was there. What's one evenings inconvenience as opposed to the inconvenience of no disposable income due to high rents? Or when your friends can't move home to Ireland as they can't find anywhere to live? Or you wonder how people from the county can afford to send their children to college with the high rents? Or when a guy lives in a tent at the top of your road? (In before the why don't you take him in comment) or families are sleeping in cars?

And I'm the dick...

The J Stands for Jay

Lux23 wrote: »

So you're happy that public funding is going into private landlord's pockets rather than fund social or affordable housing? And Paul Murphy pays as much tax as you do, probably more.

Paul Murphy does not raise any funds for the Exchequer by way of paying tax on his salary. If he were made redundant, the State would have more funds to spend.

steves2

weldoninhio wrote: »

In the U.K. and NI tax and insurance aren’t displayed on the windscreen. The reg plate could have fallen off/been ripped off.

Ah ok. The optics of it still are not great, most of us wouldn't get away with driving around with a reg plate missing. The whole thing looked like the Guards were protecting a group of heavies, sure they were there to ensure the peace or wherever but it could've been handled better maybe.

Ginger83

weldoninhio wrote: »

The type of tax, insurance, MOT that the Gardaí have confirmed was all ship shape and above board in the IT??

It did have a back plate. The front one may have fallen off on the way down the motorway.

Well i suppose if they said it then it must be true

NIMAN

Why are people arguing about a missing reg plate?

Such a small issue and if thats ammo for the protestors, they have little to complain about.

NasserShammaz

Sheeps wrote: »

Not entirely sure why that would matter? They're probably most affected. I was there and I'm in my 30's and a senior tech worker who's trapped renting. There's also a contingent of about 500,000 adults who are trapped at home still with the parents because the situation is ridiculous, im sure some of them were there, not to mention the homeless.

Agreed There are people referring to these people as scum etc....water cannon the bastids why there are plenty of people in this city workin hard for their poverty/ 2 jobs trapped paying Saint Tropeis rents but living in a **** hole . There is also ar*eholes like Murphy/RBB et al posing as socialists feeding this bu****e.

There are homeless junkies/drunks /bums who have more chance of gettin a house in this country than most workers and it may well be a f*ckin inconvenience for a short while but not all those protesting are free loading PBP twats.

ArchXStanton

White_hills wrote: »

I have a job, a good professional one at that and I was there. What's one evenings inconvenience as opposed to the inconvenience of no disposable income due to high rents? Or when your friends can't move home to Ireland as they can't find anywhere to live? Or you wonder how people from the county can afford to send their children to college with the high rents? Or when a guy lives in a tent at the top of your road? (In before the why don't you take him in comment) or families are sleeping in cars?

And I'm the dick...

You want to see change? Start affecting profits and you'll get it from the government, sad to say

Trasna1

White_hills wrote: »

I have a job, a good professional one at that and I was there. What's one evenings inconvenience as opposed to the inconvenience of no disposable income due to high rents? Or when your friends can't move home to Ireland as they can't find anywhere to live? Or you wonder how people from the county can afford to send their children to college with the high rents? Or when a guy lives in a tent at the top of your road? (In before the why don't you take him in comment) or families are sleeping in cars?

And I'm the dick...

Yeah you are, since stopping people getting home from work is not going to magically make thousands of construction workers appear to build social and affordable housing.

Gringo180

That was like something you would see in Saudi Arabia yesterday. Surely an impartial media would be up in arms over this carry on from the establishment? Although RTE are anything but impartial.

NasserShammaz

Trasna1 wrote: »

Yeah you are, since stopping people getting home from work is not going to magically make thousands of construction workers appear to build social and affordable housing.

Are you on a bus sweetheart

weldoninhio

NasserShammaz wrote: »

Agreed There are people referring to these people as scum etc....water cannon the bastids why there are plenty of people in this city workin hard for their poverty/ 2 jobs trapped paying Saint Tropeis rents but living in a **** hole . There is also ar*eholes like Murphy/RBB et al posing as socialists feeding this bu****e.

There are homeless junkies/drunks /bums who have more chance of gettin a house in this country than most workers and it may well be a f*ckin inconvenience for a short while but not all those protesting are free loading PBP twats.

You want rent to come down?? Let politicians who call to your house know that you are fed up with parasites who never worked a day in their life getting prime real estate in the capital city. Move them to Leitrim, Longford etc. There’s no need for them to be in the capital. Me ma lives there is no excuse. Get them out and it will release huge tracts of housing for the crushed middle income workers.

White_hills

Trasna1 wrote: »

Yeah you are, since stopping people getting home from work is not going to magically make thousands of construction workers appear to build social and affordable housing.

But your apathy isn't doing anything either. What do you suggest? And to add to that, people have as much right to protest as you do commute.

20Cent

Every protest ever:
1. They have been protesting for over an hour now and the issue hasn't been instantly solved.
2. They are protesting in the wrong place should be somewhere else.
3. They are blocking traffic or the pathway waaaa.

Ffs

yabadabado

Disgusting carry on and I mean those people who occupied the private property and now have caused chaos in the city centre today.

I heard some idiot on the radio earlier on and he wouldnt help any cause beyond putting people off helping.

Gringo180

Trasna1 wrote: »

Yeah you are, since stopping people getting home from work is not going to magically make thousands of construction workers appear to build social and affordable housing.

No but if we all downed tools for a day or even a week we would quickly see some changes.

weldoninhio

It got a 15 second mention on VM news. Raising great awareness lads.

weldoninhio

weldoninhio wrote: »

You want rent to come down?? Let politicians who call to your house know that you are fed up with parasites who never worked a day in their life getting prime real estate in the capital city. Move them to Leitrim, Longford etc. There’s no need for them to be in the capital. Me ma lives there is no excuse. Get them out and it will release huge tracts of housing for the crushed middle income workers.

*Wants to depopulate urban areas by sending enemies of the workers to the countryside, whilst complaining about socialism*

end of the road

weldoninhio wrote: »

The type of tax, insurance, MOT that the Gardaí have confirmed was all ship shape and above board in the IT??

It did have a back plate. The front one may have fallen off on the way down the motorway.

do the front plates of english van's which belong to shadowy figures and which are clapped out, regularly fall off or get ripped off going down that particular motor way?

NasserShammaz

weldoninhio wrote: »

You want rent to come down?? Let politicians who call to your house know that you are fed up with parasites who never worked a day in their life getting prime real estate in the capital city. Move them to Leitrim, Longford etc. There’s no need for them to be in the capital. Me ma lives there is no excuse. Get them out and it will release huge tracts of housing for the crushed middle income workers.

I think Leitrim might have something to say about that

100 peaceful protesters holding the city to ransom. Shame, Shame, Shame on them.

"HOUSING PROTESTERS HAVE blocked traffic in Dublin this evening after more than 100 people gathered to attend a demonstration in the city centre.

Dozens of people first gathered outside a property previously occupied by the Take Back the City campaign on North Fredrick Street, following the group’s eviction from the site last night.

The demonstration was organised after six people arrested were arrested when a private security firm and gardaí removed activists from the vacant building."

http://www.thejournal.ie/traffic-housing-protest-dublin-fredrick-street-4232688-Sep2018/

Wheeliebin30

20Cent wrote: »

Every protest ever:
1. They have been protesting for over an hour now and the issue hasn't been instantly solved.
2. They are protesting in the wrong place should be somewhere else.
3. They are blocking traffic or the pathway waaaa.

Ffs

What about people trying to get home to pick up kids from crèche and have no other alternative?

Juanito13

What great citizens! Hindering access to a major maternity hospital.

Sheeps

Sheeps wrote: »

Not entirely sure why that would matter? They're probably most affected. I was there and I'm in my 30's and a senior tech worker who's trapped renting. There's also a contingent of about 500,000 adults who are trapped at home still with the parents because the situation is ridiculous, im sure some of them were there, not to mention the homeless.

where did you get that figure

that is an absolutely preposterous claim tbh

_brendand_

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

And by occupying someone’s property illegal is the right way to go about it?

If it's a disused building that some rich prick is sitting on while it appreciates then yeah

steves2

Was driving through the city Sunday morning with the missus who's not Irish, went past those little 2 story houses just down from the IFSC and on the way to the Samuel Beckett bridge. I wouldn't call myself socialist or capitalist but the idea that they could still be there in that location in a modern city is ridiculous, we were in Madrid the week before and it's like night and day comparing. If Ireland wants to "solve" the housing crisis it would help by looking at how our European friends do things on the continent. And if you want a free house, you shouldn't get to pick where it is.

Wheeliebin30

_brendand_ wrote: »

If it's a disused building that some rich prick is sitting on while it appreciates then yeah

Rich prick?

Any link to the owner been a prick?

Are you jealous of people been successful?

Kermit.de.frog

Don't these people have jobs? It's a Wednesday evening...

Yer Da sells Avon

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Rich prick?

Any link to the owner been a prick?

Are you jealous of people been successful?

If your 'success' is based around buying properties and allowing them to appreciate during a housing crisis, while doing nothing with them, then you are neither a decent nor productive person - you're a leech.

White_hills

White_hills wrote: »

I have a job, a good professional one at that and I was there. What's one evenings inconvenience as opposed to the inconvenience of no disposable income due to high rents? Or when your friends can't move home to Ireland as they can't find anywhere to live? Or you wonder how people from the county can afford to send their children to college with the high rents? Or when a guy lives in a tent at the top of your road? (In before the why don't you take him in comment) or families are sleeping in cars?

And I'm the dick...

then put yourself to inconvenience by all means. thats your right and your choice.

leave me and everyone else out of it.

and thats a powerful list of people youve appointed yourself nuisance-in-chief for. i hope they all asked you to represent them by f*cking up the evening of several dozen thousand people.

and yes.

end of the road

weldoninhio wrote: »

You want rent to come down?? Let politicians who call to your house know that you are fed up with parasites who never worked a day in their life getting prime real estate in the capital city. Move them to Leitrim, Longford etc. There’s no need for them to be in the capital. Me ma lives there is no excuse. Get them out and it will release huge tracts of housing for the crushed middle income workers.

there is every need for them to be in the capital. that's where the vast amount of resources are. other counties have their own people needing help, it's not up to them to be a dumping ground for those wanting the social cleansing of those they deem the "wrong stock"
it's not as if those counties would get more resources, so if we are lucky, we are then going to have a ridiculously high cost regeneration program decades down the line, just like we had with the parts of dublin and other cities where we simply dumped people in the past.

P_1

Was at it after work but left when it started getting ineffective.

Really the elites should be targeted, not people trying to get home from work. Block the slum landlords into their homes and boycott their businesses.

Wheeliebin30

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

If your 'success' is based around buying properties and allowing them to appreciate during a housing crisis, while doing nothing with them, then you are neither a decent nor productive person - you're a leech.

How do you know this is the situation?

20Cent

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Rich prick?

Any link to the owner been a prick?

Are you jealous of people been successful?

If they are so wealthy they can leave building you own to rot while there is a housing crisis they're probably a prick yes.

Wheeliebin30

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Rich prick?

Any link to the owner been a prick?

Are you jealous of people been successful?

You set your standards for what would be defined as 'success' at an extraordinary low level.

yabadabado

_brendand_ wrote: »

If it's a disused building that some rich prick is sitting on while it appreciates then yeah

Its still breaking the law ,you may not agree with it but occupying it is a prick act as well.
court and garda resources wasted.

Wheeliebin30

20Cent wrote: »

If they are so wealthy they can leave building you own to rot while there is a housing crisis they're probably a prick yes.

It’s their PRIVATE property they can do as they please with it.

**** me whats next I don’t use my car for a few days should I give it to some homeless person??

White_hills

[Deleted User] wrote: »

then put yourself to inconvenience by all means. thats your right and your choice.

leave me and everyone else out of it.

and thats a powerful list of people youve appointed yourself nuisance-in-chief for. i hope they all asked you to represent them by f*cking up the evening of several dozen thousand people.

and yes.

Nuisance in chief! Brilliant. Home your home now!

20Cent

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

It’s their PRIVATE property they can do as they please with it.

**** me whats next I don’t use my car for a few days should I give it to some homeless person??

If it's empty just sitting there then it makes no difference to them if someone moves in.

Yer Da sells Avon

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

It’s their PRIVATE property they can do as they please with it.

Try adding an extra window to the front or your private property and you'll find that you can't do what you want with it.