The Frederick St protest and reaction

Mongfinder General

Pete Moss wrote: »

Protesters now having a sit down at the junction of O'Connell Street, Parnell Street and Parnell Square.

No buses or Luas trams can get by, or any other traffic.

Commissioner should be all over this. Don’t back down from these bastards. He’s probably sitting there thinking about what a PR disaster it will be if men and women are beaten off the street. It ‘ll Be a bigger disaster if these parasites get their way

jobbridge4life

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Only to certain types.

Types who already have their opinions anyway and are only interested in the parts of stories that further their agendas .


And frankly, who gives a **** about those whinger types anyway.......

Do those 'certain types' include members of the judiciary? Who had Garda testimony in the Jobstown trial discounted because it was demonstrably false.

Trasna1

jobbridge4life wrote: »

And yet we've been being told by our masters that this problem can't be solved overnight since the death of Jonathan Corrie literally years ago.

Something being in the public consciousness is not nearly the same as the Government actually taking the necessary actions to resolve the problem. IF the problem were resolved there wouldn't be a national emergency in housing (by the Government's own account), there wouldn't be countless buildings being left unoccupied and to rot, while children grow up in hotels. I get that plenty of people don't want to care or give a sh!t, in fact so do the protesters. That is the point of protesting.

The point of protesting is to highlight an Injustice and get the public onside.

I can't see how delaying thousands of workers from getting home furthers this cause.

Those freeloaders will never ever get my vote

jobbridge4life

Edgware wrote: »

Well you can't blame People getting aroused at the thought of a truncheon bouncing off Rich Boy Barrett head.

Amused by those liking the above comment who screech hysterically about violations of abandoned private properties.

Ya'll terribly obvious.

cursai

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Only to certain types.

Types who already have their opinions anyway and are only interested in the parts of stories that further their agendas .


And frankly, who gives a **** about those whinger types anyway.......

Think you got it in one there. Let them feed on tabloid new sources and there fabricated emotive 'crises'. Some people are born to whinge and be offended.

hots

Pete Moss wrote: »

Protesters now having a sit down at the junction of O'Connell Street, Parnell Street and Parnell Square.

No buses or Luas trams can get by, or any other traffic.

Dlckheads, how do you get people on your side? Piss them off on their way home. Cheers lads.

Ush1

Mongfinder General wrote: »

Commissioner should be all over this. Don’t back down from these bastards. He’s probably sitting there thinking about what a PR disaster it will be if men and women are beaten off the street. It ‘ll Be a bigger disaster if these parasites get their way

Do they even know what their way is though? What is it exactly that they are looking for?

jobbridge4life

Pete Moss wrote: »

Protesters now having a sit down at the junction of O'Connell Street, Parnell Street and Parnell Square.

No buses or Luas trams can get by, or any other traffic.

Delighted. I'm confident that the many public transport users who face the brutal increases in rents and witness the incredible explosion of homelessness in our country will recognise the importance of this action and support it.

Of course there will also be people who feel like they've been murdered because there journey home took a while longer.

hots

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Delighted. I'm confident that the many public transport users who face the brutal increases in rents and witness the incredible explosion of homelessness in our country will recognise the importance of this action and support it.

Of course there will also be people who feel like they've been murdered because there journey home took a while longer.

Wouldn't be a pain in the arse for the people who are causing the problem no? Go sit on the doorstep of the Dail or something and get your headlines that way. I doubt anyone's opinion of the cause is any better because they now can't get home.

jobbridge4life

Trasna1 wrote: »

The point of protesting is to highlight an Injustice and get the public onside.

I can't see how delaying thousands of workers from getting home furthers this cause.

If you privilge not having your commute inconvienced for one day over the thousands of families being reduced to hotel accommodation then frankly the protesters are better off without your support. Be honest, you don't give a ****, at least not if it is going to in anyway impact you.

Trasna1 wrote: »

Those freeloaders will never ever get my vote

This will come as a shock to your obviously self important existence but literally no one cares about your vote.

You are 100

Guy:Incognito

jobbridge4life wrote: »

And yet we've been being told by our masters that this problem can't be solved overnight since the death of Jonathan Corrie literally years ago.

.

The guy who owned a house (or houses) and sold it (them) of his own free will?

What would be your solution for him?

jobbridge4life

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The guy who owned a house (or houses) and sold it (them) of his own free will?

A man with severe mental health and addiction problems indeed.

Does that change what I said about the Government who swore blind to solve the homelessness crisis all those years ago... and who today still tell us that it can't be solved overnight?

Super-Rush

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Delighted. I'm confident that the many public transport users who face the brutal increases in rents and witness the incredible explosion of homelessness in our country will recognise the importance of this action and support it.

Of course there will also be people who feel like they've been murdered because there journey home took a while longer.

Yeah I'm sure people on their way home after a hard days work will want to support these dicks who would rather do this than get an actual job.

jobbridge4life

Deleted User wrote: »

can u be both bitter and im all right?

use better clichés

Quite clearly we can. Use better reading glasses.

Super-Rush

Super-Rush wrote: »

Yeah I'm sure people on their way home after a hard days work will want to support these dicks who would rather do this than get an actual job.

Why would you assume these people don't have jobs?

Doesn't AH teach us to buy into the narrative that it's the unemployed who are living in the lap of luxury with their free houses? Why would they be protesting?

Pkiernan

If SW recipients had to sign on daily, there'd be less of this

Ronan|Raven

jobbridge4life wrote: »

If you privilge not having your commute inconvienced for one day over the thousands of families being reduced to hotel accommodation then frankly the protesters are better off without your support. Be honest, you don't give a ****, at least not if it is going to in anyway impact you.



This will come as a shock to your obviously self important existence but literally no one cares about your vote.

You are 100

And no one gives a continental **** about you.

jobbridge4life

Ronan|Raven wrote: »

And no one gives a continental **** about you.

Ah Ronan but you see I haven't claimed that they do.

jam_mac_jam

I am sure there are people with left wing opinions who work..the assumption that everyone suffering in the housing cris is is on the dole and there by choice .the language to describe protesters is strange....scum...parasites...freeloaders

jobbridge4life

Pkiernan wrote: »

If SW recipients had to sign on daily, there'd be less of this

Pensioners? Parents in receipt of children's allowance? Those with tax credits?

Can you be more specific?

hots

jobbridge4life wrote: »

If you privilge not having your commute inconvienced for one day over the thousands of families being reduced to hotel accommodation then frankly the protesters are better off without your support. Be honest, you don't give a ****, at least not if it is going to in anyway impact you.



This will come as a shock to your obviously self important existence but literally no one cares about your vote.

You are 100

Why be a pain in the arse for normal people though and not the dickhead politicians causing the problem?

Trasna1

jobbridge4life wrote: »

If you privilge not having your commute inconvienced for one day over the thousands of families being reduced to hotel accommodation then frankly the protesters are better off without your support. Be honest, you don't give a ****, at least not if it is going to in anyway impact you.



This will come as a shock to your obviously self important existence but literally no one cares about your vote.

You are 100

Then why to I still get pbp AAA alphabet soup fliers and canvassers at my door.

Edgware

Obviously not enough heads were cracked open last night.
If these Scrotes think they will get public support by blocking people on the way home it just shows how stupid they are

Pkiernan

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

I am sure there are people with left wing opinions who work...the language to describe protesters is strange....scum...parasites...freeloaders

It's harsh alright.

The only solution is to build more houses.

Noveight

hots wrote: »

Why be a pain in the arse for normal people though and not the dickhead politicians causing the problem?

More melodramatic to clog up the whole gaff. Better photo opportunities don’t you know!

Pkiernan

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Pensioners? Parents in receipt of children's allowance? Those with tax credits?

Can you be more specific?

Sorry..able bodied men and baby ploppers who do nothing all day and get to live for free in the city centre.

TheValeyard

This kind of nonsense serves no purpose other than pissing off tired, hunger workers wanting to get home and spend some time with their families.

end of the road

Gatling wrote: »

But evictions like these or from houses has always been done by private officers,and not the Garda ,
When the Gardai are asked to attend they are used to keep the peace and deter trouble makers .

I certainly don't want to see the Gardai been used for standard everyday evictions ,how many would be taken off normal duties for evictions which would invoke more more protests about breaching civil rights ,

agreed, the gardai doing the evictions perhapse wouldn't be the best use of their resources. however these shadowy private security firms need to go and quick.
what we need is a new state agency, the civilian enforcement agency. they would look after evictions,, among all other civil enforcement. they can be highly regulated and be given actual powers as they would be a state agency. perhapse they could take in the traffic wardens and operate the clamping service as well. possibly other stuff. might require some changes to existing legislation but it shouldn't be to much bother. probably a discussion for a separate thread though.

jobbridge4life

Trasna1 wrote: »

Then why to I still get pbp AAA alphabet soup fliers and canvassers at my door.

Why do I get adverts for selling my rented accommodation?

weldoninhio

aidoh wrote: »

I get why people are critical over the protesters and I also understand why the cops may have needed to wear balaclavas in this case.

That being said, the amount of people absolutely creaming themselves over the thought of cops beating the shít out of crusties is bizarre.

Not one page in 25 of this thread passed without someone fantasising about cops getting tough on people. Weird.

I think the ordinary decent workers of the country are fed up with our soft touch system. Anyone that breaks the law should be dealt with quickly and harshly. No one, crusties or scangers, should be heading out to commit a crime thinking “Shure the cops will do nothing”

jobbridge4life

Pkiernan wrote: »

Sorry..able bodied men and baby ploppers who do nothing all day and get to live for free in the city centre.

So male pensioners anyway and those of reproductive age in the city centre?

jobbridge4life

hots wrote: »

Why be a pain in the arse for normal people though and not the dickhead politicians causing the problem?

Because protests always inconvenience people. That is quite literally the point.

Who do you think votes for the 'dickhead politicians'?

weldoninhio

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

You might need to reread what I posted instead of focusing on one singular point.

I asked if it was legal to drive a vehicle without a front registration plate, apparently the rear one was a uk one (I'm open to correction on this btw) while working either for, or in accordance/conjunction with the states police force?

My guess wold be no, but it's only a little guess mind.

Should we be expecting more masked men in unmarked vans, partially displaying registration plates in future police operations?

I need to know if I should be feeling worried or reassured here.

But they weren’t working for/in conjunction with the Gardaí. They were there to evict people who were illegally occupying a building, more than likely on the behest of the building owner.

The Gardaí were there to ensure that no one, evictors or evictees broke the law. The Gardaí were not on either side.

Guy:Incognito

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Who do you think votes for the 'dickhead politicians'?

Paul Murphy supporters?

weldoninhio

Pete Moss wrote: »

Protesters now having a sit down at the junction of O'Connell Street, Parnell Street and Parnell Square.

No buses or Luas trams can get by, or any other traffic.

Time to baton charge them or get the water cannons out.

jobbridge4life

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Paul Murphy supporters?

Quite so. In fact I remember Paul Murphy, RBB and Joe Higgins telling us all to chillax back in 2007, that the property market was headed for a soft landing.

jobbridge4life

weldoninhio wrote: »

Time to baton charge them or get the water cannons out.

I'm clearly not one of the protesters but all I can say in relation to the above is ****ing bring it.

weldoninhio

jobbridge4life wrote: »

A man with severe mental health and addiction problems indeed.

Does that change what I said about the Government who swore blind to solve the homelessness crisis all those years ago... and who today still tell us that it can't be solved overnight?

Using the spoofer numbers of 10,000 homeless. What percentage of the population is that? Less than 0.01%? Crisis?

weldoninhio

jobbridge4life wrote: »

I'm clearly not one of the protesters but all I can say in relation to the above is ****ing bring it.

Might be the first wash some of them get this decade.

jobbridge4life

weldoninhio wrote: »

Using the spoofer numbers of 10,000 homeless. What percentage of the population is that? Less than 0.01%? Crisis?

At least you are open enough to declare that you don't share An Taoiseach's view that the thousands of homeless, including countless families and children is a national crisis.

http://www.thejournal.ie/taoiseach-homelessness-3930398-Mar2018/

I suggest you direct your complaint regarding the terminology to the relevant Government department. Do let us know their response.

Sheeps

Sounds like there may be a couple of landlords in here.

NasserShammaz

Most look like students TBH

steves2

Can't say I support the protesters as I don't see what good it'll do, but how can the group of "heavies" turn up in a van with no tax or insurance and no reg plate on the front? And all the guards around them? If that's all true then how come that wasn't highlighted more?

20Cent

The outrageous actions of the gardai and the security people will backfire badly. Hopefully many more empty buildings will be occupied .There is a crisis and it takes something like this to kick off gov action. Use it or lose it laws should apply to property in built up areas. New York city used it to hreat effect.

dxhound2005

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

99.99 percent of the population are housed just fine and most folks have little contact with the rental sector.

The 500,000 people in rented accommodation would probably disagree with you.

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-cp1hii/cp1hii/

Sheeps

NasserShammaz wrote: »

Most look like students TBH

Not entirely sure why that would matter? They're probably most affected. I was there and I'm in my 30's and a senior tech worker who's trapped renting. There's also a contingent of about 500,000 adults who are trapped at home still with the parents because the situation is ridiculous, im sure some of them were there, not to mention the homeless.

NasserShammaz

20Cent wrote: »

The outrageous actions of the gardai and the security people will backfire badly. Hopefully many more empty buildings will be occupied .There is a crisis and it takes something like this to kick off gov action. Use it or lose it laws should apply to property in built up areas. New York city used it to hreat effect.

Im more surprised theres guards I forgot what they looked like maybe they might spot the 1 or 2 hundred drug dealers that trawl our main street and do a bit

weldoninhio

steves2 wrote: »

Can't say I support the protesters as I don't see what good it'll do, but how can the group of "heavies" turn up in a van with no tax or insurance and no reg plate on the front? And all the guards around them? If that's all true then how come that wasn't highlighted more?

In the U.K. and NI tax and insurance aren’t displayed on the windscreen. The reg plate could have fallen off/been ripped off.

Sheeps

weldoninhio wrote: »

In the U.K. and NI tax and insurance aren’t displayed on the windscreen. The reg plate could have fallen off/been ripped off.

What planet are you on?

hots

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Because protests always inconvenience people. That is quite literally the point.

Who do you think votes for the 'dickhead politicians'?

Why inconvenience people who aren't causing the problem? Surely protests are to gain support for a point of view?

The largest majority of the voting population I guess if they're in power?

Go inconvenience the powers that be.