IRISH TRAVELLERS - GALWAY CITY CONFERENCE 12th Sep 2018

Juran

Here is something to make your blood boil this Wednesday afternoon as you are working away paying your taxes: 
[font=Palanquin, sans-serif]https://galwaybayfm.ie/city-conference-to-hear-irish-travellers-are-growing-part-of-countrys-homeless-crisis/[/font]
[font=Palanquin, sans-serif]"The Irish Traveller Movement’s annual conference is being held at the Ardilaun Hotel .[/font]
[font=Palanquin, sans-serif]The group is set to hear that the failure of the Government to deliver halting sites has forced over 2,000 individuals into the private rented sector.[/font]
[font=Palanquin, sans-serif]Director of the Irish Traveller Movement, Bernard Joyce, says that’s a problem for both the State and the Travelling Community." [/font]
Agree, that a big problem indeed ... the state using our hard earned tax money mollycoddling people who contribute zero to our society. Are we the only bloody country in the world who are constantly trying to please this crowd ?  They must be laughing just at the rest of us ..

Potential-Monke

I got banned from the last one, i'm staying out of this one...

verycool

I thought this was an onion article.

"Traveller"... "homeless"... the irony.

Cookie_Monster

Sounds more like they have a homed issue to me

Lux23

Why would this make my blood boil? Well, apart from the terrible font you've used.

lawred2

the state should provide a few fields with 10 meter perimeter walls

job done

verycool

lawred2 wrote: »

the state should provide a few fields with 10 meter perimeter walls

job done

"Jails", they're called "jails".

lawred2

verycool wrote: »

"Jails", they're called "jails".

ah now - they'd still need access to their piebalds

lawred2

mikemac2 wrote: »

Will the hotel bar be renovated and closed for business that day?

that's a decent hotel too if I remember correctly...

I wonder when the booking was made were the owners aware of who was making the booking?

Juran

Lux23 wrote: »

Why would this make my blood boil? Well, apart from the terrible font you've used.

You're very bored today

SEPT 23 1989

will there be chains on the door of the Ardilaun Hotel bar?

mikemac2

lawred2 wrote: »

that's a decent hotel too if I remember correctly...

The Ardilaun is an amazing hotel

4 * and set on its own grounds on Taylor’s Hill. I love it

Used to be a part time barman in my college days

jam_mac_jam

Well here's a new and interesting topic...

wexie

When did this caravan shortage start and how come we're only hearing about it now?

BBFAN

Doesn't make my blood boil in the slightest, it makes perfect sense.

I would much prefer that the state was providing halting sites than social housing for these people.

We have to be pragmatic about these things. Not emotionally driven.

irishproduce

By right, the government should grow a pair and stop pandering to this crowd or at the very least, if they are going to pander, they should raise the issue of responsibilities and such.
We hear Leo and his crowd constantly refer to how they'll "raise the hard issues with Pres Trump/ Xi Xinping etc" etc when they meet them. Why not insist on the same values from the travellers.

Juran

I have no problem with halting sites (as long as they are not near me) - but ONLY after the the disabled, elderly and low incoming working families are FIRST housed and looked after by the state. Galway city council owns a big site in Galway city (knocknacarra area). They paid 10 million for it less than 10 years ago and they were proposing to build a halting site on it. €10 million of prime city land -  I kid you not. I believe the idea has been scrapped due to an outcry, and the land will be used for social & affordable housing.

marieholmfan

Juran wrote: »

I have no problem with halting sites (as long as they are not near me) - but ONLY after the the disabled, elderly and low incoming working families are FIRST housed and looked after by the state. Galway city council owns a big site in Galway city (knocknacarra area). They paid 10 million for it less than 10 years ago and they were proposing to build a halting site on it. €10 million of prime city land - I kid you not. I believe the idea has been scrapped due to an outcry, and the land will be used for social & affordable housing.

What is the problem? Travellers are as Irish as anyone else. More so really.

BBFAN

marieholmfan wrote: »

What is the problem? Travellers are as Irish as anyone else. More so really.

There's a pecking order now apparently??

wexie

marieholmfan wrote: »

What is the problem? Travellers are as Irish as anyone else. More so really.

no problem whatsoever, once they start paying taxes, respecting the laws of the land, stop abusing animals and other citizens, burning rubbish etc. etc.

Ya know, behave like respectable fellow citizens

Juran

Everyone in our state are equal - man, woman, child, sick, disabled, elderly, single parents, straight, gay, transsexual,  travellers, non-traveler,  black, white, all colors, race, religion, culture and creed. 
The problem is that the state does not treat everyone equal. Travellers get special treatment over other groups in society - in particular they are treated different that the rest regarding welfare payments, not being forced for job interviews, housing needs, halting site land,  legal issues relating to criminality, animal cruelty, etc... that's the problem.

marieholmfan

Juran wrote: »

Everyone in our state are equal - man, woman, child, sick, disabled, elderly, single parents, straight, gay, transsexual,  travellers, non-traveler,  black, white, all colors, race, religion, culture and creed. 
The problem is that the state does not treat everyone equal. Travellers get special treatment over other groups in society - in particular they are treated different that the rest regarding welfare payments, not being forced for job interviews, housing needs, halting site land,  legal issues relating to criminality, animal cruelty, etc... that's the problem.

OK that's a reasonable perspective.

Berserker

marieholmfan wrote: »

What is the problem? Travellers are as Irish as anyone else. More so really.

Yes but that poster believes that the groups above should be taken care of first. It's his or her version of equality.

lawred2

wexie wrote: »

no problem whatsoever, once they start paying taxes, respecting the laws of the land, stop abusing animals and other citizens, burning rubbish etc. etc.

Ya know, behave like respectable fellow citizens

to be fair - a lot of already housed vermin fail in those regards too

wexie

lawred2 wrote: »

to be fair - a lot of already housed vermin fail in those regards too

that is very true and quite frankly I'm not overly delighted with that either.

Lot of people seem to be very much up on their entitlements, not so much on their responsibilities

North inner city hoodlum

marieholmfan wrote: »

What is the problem? Travellers are as Irish as anyone else. More so really.

Since when? They identify as a different ethnicity than Irish people, they identify as Irish travellers not Irish people!

Look at any new "site" they've been giving, wrecked with rubbish and starving animals everywhere.

They should sell their new cars, crystal and all their animals, scammers.

irishproduce

Juran wrote: »

Everyone in our state are equal - man, woman, child, sick, disabled, elderly, single parents, straight, gay, transsexual,  travellers, non-traveler,  black, white, all colors, race, religion, culture and creed. 
The problem is that the state does not treat everyone equal. Travellers get special treatment over other groups in society - in particular they are treated different that the rest regarding welfare payments, not being forced for job interviews, housing needs, halting site land,  legal issues relating to criminality, animal cruelty, etc... that's the problem.

I stopped reading your sentence about 10 words in. Some advice, cut out the shíte and people will pay more attention to you.

Hector Savage

I have nothing to say, nothing to say .....


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sligojoek

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

will there be chains on the door of the Ardilaun Hotel bar?

Only once they get everybody in.

marieholmfan

North inner city hoodlum wrote: »

Since when? They identify as a different ethnicity than Irish people, they identify as Irish travellers not Irish people!

Look at any new "site" they've been giving, wrecked with rubbish and starving animals everywhere.

They should sell their new cars, crystal and all their animals, scammers.

Definitely more Irish than the Irish. It isn't like 'normal' Irish people hate crystal , don't scam and treat animals well.

North inner city hoodlum

marieholmfan wrote: »

Definitely more Irish than the Irish. It isn't like 'normal' Irish people hate crystal , don't scam and treat animals well.

Please explain how they're more irish than Irish people, are we not all equals?

It's about time the state stops pandering to their every "WANT".

They're scamming bastards, who contribute nothing to Irish society, only robbing the weak and vulnerable..

AllForIt

Just caught the intro to the one o'clock news to hear some guy in Galway say that other travellers have got space for their horses.

I don't wish to see anyone live is squalor but it's a bit hard to take them seriously sometimes when they believe they feel entitled to keep horses. I live in an apartment block and I can't even keep a cat but these ppl have horses. Horses like.

martingriff

BBFAN wrote: »

Doesn't make my blood boil in the slightest, it makes perfect sense.

I would much prefer that the state was providing halting sites than social housing for these people.

We have to be pragmatic about these things. Not emotionally driven.

Or parked at the side of the road as they are beside our estate

Juran

Juran wrote: »

I have no problem with halting sites (as long as they are not near me) - but ONLY after the the disabled, elderly and low incoming working families are FIRST housed and looked after by the state. Galway city council owns a big site in Galway city (knocknacarra area). They paid 10 million for it less than 10 years ago and they were proposing to build a halting site on it. €10 million of prime city land -  I kid you not. I believe the idea has been scrapped due to an outcry, and the land will be used for social & affordable housing.

Where do the unemployed come on your list?
Do disabled people get housed before elderly?