Everton Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2024/25

thebaz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121166727#Comment_121166727

must follow this up on Saturday , really is a must win

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121166750#Comment_121166750

You feel that warmth? That’s hope.

It’s the hope that’ll kill you

thebaz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121168411#Comment_121168411

if we loose on Saturday or even draw and dont perform will be bad , but think we are a better team now with DCL back and having Beto to help him .

Garner has stepped up too, harrison too, apart form Gomes we have a decent eneogh squad for mid table.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121168486#Comment_121168486

today is an embarrassment

lawred2

Slightest bit of expectation and the cowards revert to type.

Fed up of them.

Quality of set pieces reverted to type as well today.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121177286#Comment_121177286

If there was anything I expected from Dyche it would have been to make us solid defending set pieces and dangerous attacking them. We are muck at both

lawred2

Well when multiple managers get the same outcomes from the same set of players, it's probably the players.

Lampard used to get awful stick for the defending at set pieces.

thebaz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121177286#Comment_121177286

**** pathetic - 2 good performances , and as you say revert to cowards - my old Sunday league showed more consistency and desire to win - and we paid to play - pathetic. better of not caring , cause its rinse and repeat , gets some hope and promise and a week later lose to luton, from these wasters

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121177378#Comment_121177378

It’s not the same set of players though. It’s a new set of players.

lawred2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121177463#Comment_121177463

tis a fair point

sigh

thebaz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121178173#Comment_121178173

its the same mentatlity we've had since Moyes era - we're fragile, cowardly - and I thought at least Dyche would sort that out, apparently not .

I feal angry about today , thought we'd turned a corner, appaerently not, old frailities alive and well.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121178345#Comment_121178345

I politely disagree there. Under Ancelloti we conceded the fewest goals in the league from corners. Playing zonal marking.

The problems I see is that players are unsure of their jobs. Dyche players semi zonal, packs the 6 yard box. It invites a late run. It doesn’t matter what you do in football you need to commit to it fully.

I know it’s under age football. But I play a high line and zonal marking with my team. We break quickly and press. 100% commitment to it all and we win. 99% commitment and we lose.

football is a simple game, people make complicated. You do your job and trust everyone to do the same and you win games. I don’t see Dyche convincing the players to do that. Even when Beto came on, he didn’t play with DCL. Both played like they were playing alone up front. So making subs is fine, but having a plan B is completely different. Dyche never has a plan B. Lampard didn’t either.

I’ve had a few. Don’t mind me.

dubrov

Under Ancelotti, the player budget was probably triple what it is now.

Underspending on the squad has led us here and changing the manager won't change that

thebaz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121178800#Comment_121178800

The Anceoltti era didnt get eneogh time , ther were many bad games under him too, but yeah one of the greatest coaches and have no doubt he would have re-built us proplerly if he had stayed.

But he didnt , and we were left with half a re-build and the rest is history.

4 home losses in a row is a disgrace and thats on Dyche , and on most of the low achieving inconsistent over paid players. - we know who they are.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121179125#Comment_121179125

True as that is, Keane could defend corners when he managed Everton

dubrov

Keane's confidence has been shattered for a while now. Don't think he'll ever build it back up

lawred2

That second goal was a complete absence of leadership, awareness or communication. Mykolenko had no idea that there was anyone behind him. Hard to see what they are doing on the training ground.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121183556#Comment_121183556

He was left marking 2 players and chose to run with the wrong one. It looked like an individual error but he was let down by the poor organisation.

He should have only been left with the player on the extreme edge of the group of runners. That means someone else was marking no one, they were marking space. Not good enough.

lawred2

I'm not holding Mykolenko responsible save for not being aware of what's around him. But the organisation and communication is a collective matter.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121184351#Comment_121184351

Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply you were blaming him. I’ve seen lots of people on Reddit blame him and it annoys me.

beggars_bush

If we don't beat Bournemouth surely Dyche is in real trouble

eh i dunno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121204240#Comment_121204240

Yep I like him but a loss or draw today and his position has to be questioned. 7 defeats in 8 home games is unacceptable especially considering the opposition

lawred2

Whatever little belief I had in these players was wiped out last weekend. Even given the tailwind of back to back excellent away performances they couldn't handle the weight of expectation that they should beat the worst side in the league at home.

Mental weaklings.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121204594#Comment_121204594

questioned??? He should be looking for a new job.

How many home games can we lose against **** teams before he’s gone?

thebaz

This club - when I dont care , they win - when I think we can progress , they roll down against Luton - been this way since the 80s , still a 3 nil sounds good, a clean sheat and a home win - now, Ireland will let me down tonight - but, love football season.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121206157#Comment_121206157

Watched the match. Everton were brilliant.

The loss to Luton makes even less sense

thebaz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121207216#Comment_121207216

Just seen the highlights , we looks such a better team with Dom leading the line, Beto will take time , but allows us to ease back DCL properly, instead of rushing him back like last year

lawred2

Finally a comfortable home win. Too long coming.

lawred2

An ambitious starting eleven

thebaz

after the rugby hangover back to the footballl -only a derby

thebaz

decent team, lets get somthing

thebaz

FFS Young - you know what coming now

lawred2

Terrible game. No edge whatsoever.

Young is simply out of his depth at this stage.

This has the usual 2-0 written all over it.

Ottoman_1000

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121266856#Comment_121266856

He looked like a man that wanted an early shower. Ridiculous challenge to put in when already booked, he had booted the ball away 3 minutes earlier which the ref warned him for so he knew he was on thin ice...

lawred2

always the same... crap officials and idiot players... we're never given nor do we give ourselves an even chance against Liverpool

why is Michael Keane still at the club?

lawred2

There's the routine 2-0

thebaz

never going to win at anfield with 10 men, getting used to losing

Will_I_Amnt

Unconfirmed reports (but appears to be true) that Everton chairman Bill Kenwright has passed away.

Washout

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121278141#Comment_121278141

Reports have now been confirmed.

RIP Bill.

wally79

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67203234

lawred2

His narcissism got in the way of the legacy he craved.

Still at least he was a blue.

RIP

thebaz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121279382#Comment_121279382

I remember ther hope I had when he came in at the millenium, if he had left when Moshiri came in , he would be remembered well, but he presided over the past few seasons of farce, when really he and us would have all been better of if he parted at the right time. its sad.

Brian?

Results going our way today. Guaranteed dissatisfaction tomorrow

thebaz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121294727#Comment_121294727

Need to start picking up points - sounds like we are going get a points penalty - dont think it will be the 12 reported, but I think maybe 3 or 6 ,

thebaz

decent team selected

wally79

Up to -2 points and only 8 from safety

thebaz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121298415#Comment_121298415

good win , decent team selection , DCL been managed properly , makes us a decent team, with all the off field noise Dyche doing ok , never thoght he'd grow on me.

Brian?

I didn’t watch the match, had to go out. So you can all thank me for the win.

Gavlor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121299225#Comment_121299225

By coincidence I did….. we should reverse roles

eh i dunno

If we don't get a points deduction we'll be fine this season. Not because we are anything special but because there is some crap at the bottom this season