Everton Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2024/25

rob316

dubrov wrote: »

He has a pedigree alright.
It's just the wrong type

Champions league, uefa cup, la Liga. Not afraid to take the jobs like Newcastle and show he can work with what he's got. He's picked bad jobs since he left Liverpool but this is the perfect fit for him imo.

The perfect appointment for Everton.

dubrov

Deleted User wrote:

The perfect appointment for Everton.

Must resist responding

Fitz*

Out of interest, for everyone that is opposing Rafa as manager, would you take Klopp as manager?

eh i dunno

Fitz* wrote: »

Out of interest, for everyone that is opposing Rafa as manager, would you take Klopp as manager?

If we did would you take Alex Ferguson to replace him?

larva

Fitz* wrote: »

Out of interest, for everyone that is opposing Rafa as manager, would you take Klopp as manager?

Would Klopp be capable of being successful at Everton would be a better question? It isnt just because of the Liverpool connection why Everton fans dont want Rafa, Klopp was the perfect manager for Liverpool at the right time and it all fell into place. I dont see this happening if Rafa is next to get the Everton "Gig", its a recipe for further mockery and relegation.

Gavlor

Fitz* wrote: »

Out of interest, for everyone that is opposing Rafa as manager, would you take Klopp as manager?

100%

RobMc59

larva wrote: »

Would Klopp be capable of being successful at Everton would be a better question? It isnt just because of the Liverpool connection why Everton fans dont want Rafa, Klopp was the perfect manager for Liverpool at the right time and it all fell into place. I dont see this happening if Rafa is next to get the Everton "Gig", its a recipe for further mockery and relegation.

Rafa has a decent track record but the Liverpool connection has been a problem to accept,as would klopp be.Interestingly,both klopp and Alex Ferguson struggled initially.,

dubrov

I'd take Klopp in a heartbeat

Brian?

Fitz* wrote: »

Out of interest, for everyone that is opposing Rafa as manager, would you take Klopp as manager?

With zero hesitation

Fitz*

Thanks for responses.

I think it's fair to assume that based on the above, posters don't really have an objection towards appointing a manager with previous allegiances to Liverpool, and it's more having an objection towards appointing Benitez based on his ability. Which is fair if ye think he is not good enough. Personally, I'd disagree on that point but differing opinions and all that.

A lot of the hostility I have seen on twitter etc seems to be coming from his previous employment though, not because of his ability. Rafa's very professional and career centric. He was always slated for being too 'cold' and not sentimental or emotive enough, which suggests that he is able to put aside his previous work with Liverpool and manage other teams while playing against them. If he is able to work at Chelsea while the clubs were rivals, then surely he can work here.

toffeeshel

Fitz* wrote: »

Out of interest, for everyone that is opposing Rafa as manager, would you take Klopp as manager?

No. Don’t want anyone associated with them. What next? Gerrard?
I’m done with Everton until he is gone. Hopefully gone by Xmas. Moshiri can go f himself too

lawred2

Is it official?

toffeeshel

lawred2 wrote: »

Is it official?

No. Still time for him to be struck by lightning or something. Fingers crossed

thebaz

toffeeshel wrote: »

Moshiri can go f himself too

No Moshiri no new stadium - dealing in the bargain bin with Billy K, I don't want Benitez either, but seriously

toffeeshel

thebaz wrote: »

No Moshiri no new stadium - dealing in the bargain bin with Billy K, I don't want Benitez either, but seriously

Not going to need a 50k stadium if the majority of the support have given up on the club. The football served up by Allardyce Ancelotti and in time Benitez is turgid

ben.schlomo

toffeeshel wrote: »

Not going to need a 50k stadium if the majority of the support have given up on the club. The football served up by Allardyce Ancelotti and in time Benitez is turgid

Who do you want as manager?

toffeeshel

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Who do you want as manager?

Not Benitez. At this stage I would give Dunc a chance. Possibly Potter. There must be an ambitious young manager out there available. Benitez will be poisonous. How can a successful businessman think that alienating the majority of his customers is the right way to go?
I don’t see the point of Brands if Moshiri is going to just go ahead and make the decisions himself. His managerial appointments have been disastrous and costing the club a fortune in severance payments. In fairness he backs the managers financially but it’s down to him that he is backing the wrong people

Brian?

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Who do you want as manager?

Conte, Galtier or someone who has been successful in the last decade.

thebaz

toffeeshel wrote: »

Not going to need a 50k stadium if the majority of the support have given up on the club. The football served up by Allardyce Ancelotti and in time Benitez is turgid

The majority will still go the games when they can , only a small % will not.
And Benitez is light years ahead of Allardyce , how many champions leagues has he won ?

larva

Fitz* wrote: »

Thanks for responses.

I think it's fair to assume that based on the above, posters don't really have an objection towards appointing a manager with previous allegiances to Liverpool, and it's more having an objection towards appointing Benitez based on his ability. Which is fair if ye think he is not good enough. Personally, I'd disagree on that point but differing opinions and all that.

A lot of the hostility I have seen on twitter etc seems to be coming from his previous employment though, not because of his ability. Rafa's very professional and career centric. He was always slated for being too 'cold' and not sentimental or emotive enough, which suggests that he is able to put aside his previous work with Liverpool and manage other teams while playing against them. If he is able to work at Chelsea while the clubs were rivals, then surely he can work here.

His connection with Liverpool is far too deep for him to be accepted by a cohort of Everton fans. The same would go for Klopp. Rafa is totally the wrong manager for Everton to appoint now. If appointed, I guarantee he will be the first manager to be sacked next season, thats a sure tip for you if you're a betting man.

Brian?

thebaz wrote: »

The majority will still go the games when they can , only a small % will not.
And Benitez is light years ahead of Allardyce , how many champions leagues has he won ?

Benitez is definitely superior to Allardyce. But is that our yard stick now?

lawred2

Not sure I'd want klopp either to be honest but at least that would be justifiable on a football level.

thebaz

Brian? wrote: »

Benitez is definitely superior to Allardyce. But is that our yard stick now?

I dont want Bentiez either, but another poster kept comparing him to Sam - I would have much more respect for Benitez than Sam , on a human level, nevermind as a manager.

ben.schlomo

I can't quote all of ye there so I'll reply in general as I asked the original question.

Don't think ye could get the likes of Conte, he's surely looking for a top four, league winning, champions League type appointment in one of the big leagues.

Has big Dunc done enough to warrant the appointment, I would guess not but don't know enough about what he does at the club. He certainly has the passion and history but that doesn't always work out and he'd end up being tarnished by it. For similar reasons I wouldn't really want Gerrard at Liverpool in the future.

Potter, Nuno, Parker, Galtier would all have been names I'd think were the right level for Everton.

I get the issues some fans have with Rafa, but given backing and a long term contract he could do a great job there. Don't think it would be the majority of fans who'd be against it either. Surely enough would be able to see what he brings. But I get that plenty won't, and why that is, rightly or wrongly.

dubrov

It's just like before Sam got hired.

It really gets tiring hearing from other club's fans suggesting managers we should be happy with because they are at "our level"

lawred2

dubrov wrote: »

It's just like before Sam got hired.

It really gets tiring hearing from other club's fans suggesting managers we should be happy with because they are at "our level"

Yeah. Not interested in such opinions.

Hercule Poirot

If Benitez gets the job then I'm not going to stop supporting the club. I didn't agree with Martinez or Silva when they got their jobs but I rolled with it because they were the manager and my theory is that we support them until they prove unworthy of that support.

Allardyce is the only appointment where I refused to buy any club merchandise and barely watched any of his games in charge.

If Benitez takes over I'll grudgingly accept it and at least give him a chance to see what he can do - because at that stage he'll be in the job and no amount of bitching from me is going to change that.

The reason I was so against Allardyce is that he is an odious excuse for a human being, I don't feel that strongly about Benitez, I just wish the club had more ambition and went for Grahame Potter who I believe would be a far better appointment.

toffeeshel

The last 4 leagues and 4 cups won by Everton have been with a former player as manager. Catterick Kendal and Royle

eh i dunno

toffeeshel wrote: »

The last 4 leagues and 4 cups won by Everton have been with a former player as manager. Catterick Kendal and Royle

Mark Hughes is available

Brian?

eh i dunno wrote: »

Mark Hughes is available

So am I. I've won 2 games in a row with an u11 team

toffeeshel

eh i dunno wrote: »

Mark Hughes is available

Ha. Be careful what you wish for. Sheeds did a great job with Waterford

thebaz

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

If Benitez gets the job then I'm not going to stop supporting the club. I didn't agree with Martinez or Silva when they got their jobs but I rolled with it because they were the manager and my theory is that we support them until they prove unworthy of that support.

I agree, don't want Benitez, I remember being one of the few here who liked Martinez, neither him nor Benitez would be my first choice , then I've never owned a football club nevermind coached one. I'll give Benitez a chance , but my fear is, first bit of poor form ther will be calls for his head , and we'll be back to square one again. Conte is the only I can think of who really would fill me with confidence and hope . I lay all this crap on Ancelotti, I defended him when we were rubbish thinking this season was when it would happen, he's just left us in a bigger mess , building half a team , of which nearly half are expensive flops.

eh i dunno

So usmanov and moshiri want rafa despite opposition from inside the club and the fans. And brands has had very little input. He should walk so if that's true

SickBoy

eh i dunno wrote: »

So usmanov and moshiri want rafa despite opposition from inside the club and the fans. And brands has had very little input. He should walk so if that's true

Why, is Brands the head of PR?

eh i dunno

SickBoy wrote: »

Why, is Brands the head of PR?

Director of football and responsible for selecting a manager and implementing a style of play. Why are two non football men making the decision?

Hercule Poirot

eh i dunno wrote: »

Director of football and responsible for selecting a manager and implementing a style of play. Why are two non football men making the decision?

Agree 100% - a DoF is meant to spearhead a direction or philosophy (from a footballing perspective) for the club, how can he do that if he has zero input into who the manager is?

thebaz

eh i dunno wrote: »

Director of football and responsible for selecting a manager and implementing a style of play. Why are two non football men making the decision?

Happens everywhere - Roman makes all the big decisions down at the Bridge for example

Hercule Poirot

thebaz wrote: »

Happens everywhere - Roman makes all the big decisions down at the Bridge for example

Chelsea don't have a Director of Football though

Either let Brands go or let Brands do his job, can't have it both ways

toffeeshel

thebaz wrote: »

Happens everywhere - Roman makes all the big decisions down at the Bridge for example

Billionaires need to cop on that they don’t have the knowledge to make these decisions and empower the people that they are paying well to run the club

thebaz

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

Chelsea don't have a Director of Football though

Either let Brands go or let Brands do his job, can't have it both ways

not saying I agree, as I said I dont want Benitez , just saying what happens in reaity at most big clubs.

SickBoy

This makes me feel absolutely sick to my stomach and embarrassed to be associated with these "fans".

Disgraceful carry on altogether.

Read it here https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rafa-benitez-banner-police-breaking-20917930

Gavlor

SickBoy wrote: »

This makes me feel absolutely sick to my stomach and embarrassed to be associated with these "fans".

Disgraceful carry on altogether.

Read it here https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rafa-benitez-banner-police-breaking-20917930

Absolute muppets, confirmed by the fact that they put the banner outside the wrong house 😀

dubrov

Damn. They've effectively confirmed that they don't know where he lives.
He'll sign the contract without fear now.

thebaz

dubrov wrote: »

Damn. They've effectively confirmed that they don't know where he lives.
He'll sign the contract without fear now.

was a disgraceful Cowardly act - as previous posters said Muppets

beggars_bush

You'd wonder, with our previous manager being burgled

eh i dunno

I reckon they'll announce rafa tomorrow when the focus will be on the England game

SickBoy

eh i dunno wrote: »

I reckon they'll announce rafa tomorrow when the focus will be on the England game

That's a good shout alright

thebaz

Doesn't seam so long ago when our biggest problem was Pickford in goals - he is back to top form, while our problems today are much bigger.

eh i dunno

eh i dunno wrote: »

I reckon they'll announce rafa tomorrow when the focus will be on the England game

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1409934669018288136?s=19