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Galway GAA Discussion Thread #2

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  • Registered Users Posts: 299 ✭✭Robert2014


    Exactly. It goes without saying that any abuse that Kevin Walsh and any players receive is totally out of order. That said there are fair criticisms about the performances delivered this year, the lack of preparation for games including the lack of a kick-out strategy that is bizarre at this stage, and so on.

    I just think this year has been a waste. Obviously injuries have not helped but it looks like losing Talty has impacted our defence which was our strength last year. Now we are back to a porous defence and lack of cohesion in attack. Instead of kicking on with a plan for attacking based on our defence, we have regressed defending and no further on attacking. As someone said it looks like the team is playing with fear and afraid to make a mistake in case they get criticized in the video analysis session afterwards.

    After 5 years a new voice is needed. Any progress that Kevin has been responsible for and can rightly take credit for may be lost if we have another year like the one just past.

    While I'm not advocating this, if Kevin Walsh is retained and the players allow this to happen without making their concerns known, then it shows that the players are just happy to be county players and have no great ambition to win at the highest level. We saw with the hurlers what happened when they moved against Cunningham. They out the heads above the parapet and finally owned their future and helped to deliver an All-Ireland in the end!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,015 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    Saturday was just one of those days. Everything that could have went wrong, did. I was glad with the bit of heart shown in the second half. I thought McDaid did very well considering he was following AOS and he looks a lovely prospect for the future. The Corofin lads need a break, seriously off colour. It's probably time for a change, it does feel like the end of the road for Walsh. Been a mixed bag but think hes done a good job overall. People really need to remember what a leader he was for Galway as a player also. Can only thank the man. Things havent looked right at all in championship this year, and even if we nabbed something there, were probably on a hiding to nothing for the next few weeks. The squad is seriously young however, there's loads there to work with for a good 5 years to come


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Remind me how did Anthony Cunningham depart? Was it the players or officials who wanted him out or both?


  • Registered Users Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Condenser


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    Saturday was just one of those days. Everything that could have went wrong, did. I was glad with the bit of heart shown in the second half. I thought McDaid did very well considering he was following AOS and he looks a lovely prospect for the future. The Corofin lads need a break, seriously off colour. It's probably time for a change, it does feel like the end of the road for Walsh. Been a mixed bag but think hes done a good job overall. People really need to remember what a leader he was for Galway as a player also. Can only thank the man. Things havent looked right at all in championship this year, and even if we nabbed something there, were probably on a hiding to nothing for the next few weeks. The squad is seriously young however, there's loads there to work with for a good 5 years to come


    I think everyone acknowledges what a fantastic player KW was and I have no doubt his heart is in the right place regarding this team but if he has any ability to self analyse and be objective it should be clear he's just not a good manager.

    He did a decent job of shoring up a defence but any time you put 14 behind the ball you become hard to beat. It worked against low level opposition and mayo. That was it. Anyone with any quality broke it down.

    He needs to own up to the fact that he's not progressing the team even with better players than before. I agree with the earlier post that if he digs in añd the players don't give him the push it will speak volumes for them as a group.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Condenser wrote: »
    I think everyone acknowledges what a fantastic player KW was and I have no doubt his heart is in the right place regarding this team but if he has any ability to self analyse and be objective it should be clear he's just not a good manager.

    He did a decent job of shoring up a defence but any time you put 14 behind the ball you become hard to beat. It worked against low level opposition and mayo. That was it. Anyone with any quality broke it down.

    He needs to own up to the fact that he's not progressing the team even with better players than before. I agree with the earlier post that if he digs in añd the players don't give him the push it will speak volumes for them as a group.

    Any chance the players take a bit of responsibility after their capitulation to the mighty Roscommon?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Condenser


    Edgware wrote: »
    Any chance the players take a bit of responsibility after their capitulation to the mighty Roscommon?

    That's all part of it. If they are happy to stay under Walsh then it shows they have no ambition and are happy to plod along and call themselves inter county footballers. It would also show how culpable they are in the poor performances and were happy to hide behind Walsh and let him take the flack.

    If that's the case there's a bigger problem that won't be resolved by replacing Walsh. We'll know alot about the character of both by the time October rolls around.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    We have seen in many counties managers getting the push by a cabal in the dressingroom.
    There are a lot of very ordinary players making county teams, selected for whatever reasons.
    But once a heave starts there is only one result as we have seen. Walsh has had his days and will go. The under performers on the team will last a bit longer


  • Registered Users Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Condenser


    Edgware wrote: »
    We have seen in many counties managers getting the push by a cabal in the dressingroom.
    There are a lot of very ordinary players making county teams, selected for whatever reasons.
    But once a heave starts there is only one result as we have seen. Walsh has had his days and will go. The under performers on the team will last a bit longer

    They won't last with the right manager. It will be obvious very early who is worth keeping and who's sucking the life from the team and taking up space. There's a big squad there now. It's not like we're on the bones of our arse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Condenser wrote: »
    They won't last with the right manager. It will be obvious very early who is worth keeping and who's sucking the life from the team and taking up space. There's a big squad there now. It's not like we're on the bones of our arse.
    There is massive potential in Galway. Corofin are an example. The easiest way to the so called Super 8s is winning the province and then you get your first game at home. Maybe it is time for Walsh to go but bring a few more with him


  • Registered Users Posts: 299 ✭✭Robert2014


    It's probably a fair point not to expect the players to show any leadership and responsibility now when they have shown so little of it over the years. When the chips are down, they fold the tent so badly. People question why there is such a lack of support for this team and I know supporters in Galway are a fickle bunch but if they showed the drive and determination that Mayo have over the last 6 or 7 years then I'm sure more people would have got behind them.

    Without onfield leadership and players taking responsibility and a coaching team unable to motivate and prepare tactically then it's hard to see how we improve significantly. We could improve by injured players returning but there will be a ceiling. Something needs to change, if you continue to do the same things, you will continue to get the same results.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,015 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    TG4 are really frustrating. Showing the Munster semi U20 tonight over the Connacht final. The AI second favs against their big rivals who are also a realistic contender, in a provincial final. And they show a semi with few storylines. Does anyone know if it's on the YouTube channel?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,339 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    TG4 are really frustrating. Showing the Munster semi U20 tonight over the Connacht final. The AI second favs against their big rivals who are also a realistic contender, in a provincial final. And they show a semi with few storylines. Does anyone know if it's on the YouTube channel?

    For some reason TG4 show a lot of U-20 hurling but very little U-20 football.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭RobbieRuns


    For some reason TG4 show a lot of U-20 hurling but very little U-20 football.

    It's not like Hurling is more entertaining or anything?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    RobbieRuns wrote: »
    For some reason TG4 show a lot of U-20 hurling but very little U-20 football.

    It's not like Hurling is more entertaining or anything?

    It certainly shouldn't trump every single round of the U20 championship.
    A provincial final should be shown over a semi final.

    And games take on a life of their own, games in either sport can be good.
    Who'd want to have seen the Tipp/Waterford game this week looking at the end result?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Some crowd for this game. Mayo on a crest of the wave going for 3 in row against us. Time to show a bit of Tuam hospitality.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Not to bad. Slippery ball has made things difficult. Mayo lads spending the half on the ground hasn't helped the flow of the game. Breeze will be worth a few scores to Mayo in the second half. All to play for.


    PJ must of got North Galway down early as I've never seen a stand as loud for Galway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    13 points to 6 points 10 minutes gone second half.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,145 ✭✭✭threeball


    15pts to 10 for Galway. Is U20 60mins or 70?
    Good first half performance


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    threeball wrote:
    15pts to 10 for Galway. Is U20 60mins or 70? Good first half performance


    60


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,145 ✭✭✭threeball


    No harm to give them a bit of a trimming after the weekend. Hopefully there's a couple of them that will make the step up to senior in the next two years. Good to have the conveyer belt rolling.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,145 ✭✭✭threeball


    Who's in the Leinster final, Laois v Dublin?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Well done and congrats to the under 20s


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭bcklschaps


    Well done to Padraic Joyce and the Galway U20's tonight.

    By goodness now how we could use an All Ireland win at this grade to get our Football MOJO back!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭mjp


    Just back from a great win in tuam there. Well deserved and strong squad performance with the subs brought on by Galway making a huge difference. Joyce wasn't afraid to haul lads off either with two changes in first half despite being ahead in game. Only worry I would have that we might struggle against a large physical side as outside of Barrett in midfield we don't have too many big players from midfield onwards. Dubs or laois in semi final now and they should have no fear if it's Dublin having beaten them well last month in the pre season league.

    Hats off to Scan concannon on sideline who covered every blade of grass in tuam stadium whilst working as mayor foirne. He was constantly in getting messages across to players and changes mid match. Great to see us outnumber Mayo fans for once aswell.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    bcklschaps wrote:
    Well done to Padraic Joyce and the Galway U20's tonight.

    bcklschaps wrote:
    By goodness now how we could use an All Ireland win at this grade to get our Football MOJO back!!

    A lot to like. High press meant Mayo had to think from there full back line all the way up the pitch. Tigerish tackling led to quite a few turnovers. Backs for the most part were very solid. Mulkerrins and Potter were solid in the central positions and Liam Boyle and the early introduced Jack Glynn set the tone from the half back line.

    Midfield was a good battleground. Tierney and Barrett battled hard and eventually got a grip on the game late in the first half that turned a two point lead into a six point lead at half time.

    Darragh Silke played the playmaker role well. Fair enough he had a couple of poor wides but he always demanded the ball and every pass despite a couple of interceptions was a forward pass.

    Liam Costello was the standout in the forwards. Work rate, aggression, tenacity, drove forward and broke tackles. Rightfully man of the match.

    Management showed their ruthless streak. Two subs in the first half and one at half time showed them trusting the depth of their panel. Thought Jack Glynn and Conor Newell were very good after coming on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Heraldoffreeent


    mjp wrote: »
    Just back from a great win in tuam there. Well deserved and strong squad performance with the subs brought on by Galway making a huge difference. Joyce wasn't afraid to haul lads off either with two changes in first half despite being ahead in game. Only worry I would have that we might struggle against a large physical side as outside of Barrett in midfield we don't have too many big players from midfield onwards. Dubs or laois in semi final now and they should have no fear if it's Dublin having beaten them well last month in the pre season league.

    Hats off to Scan concannon on sideline who covered every blade of grass in tuam stadium whilst working as mayor foirne. He was constantly in getting messages across to players and changes mid match. Great to see us outnumber Mayo fans for once aswell.

    'Hon the Scanny!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I know Mayo won it last year but it could very well have been one of those teams that was better than the championship suggested so the past few years at football have been promising under age after a barren spell of 10 odd years(with some unexpected wins at U21 thrown in).


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,145 ✭✭✭threeball


    Will the Dublin Laois game be on TV. Be interesting to get a look at them before the semi.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,018 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    threeball wrote: »
    Will the Dublin Laois game be on TV. Be interesting to get a look at them before the semi.

    When is that match on?

    And when is Galway's next match on?

    Thought Costello was brilliant tonight. He was excellent when he came on v Roscommon too


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    When is that match on?

    And when is Galway's next match on?

    Thought Costello was brilliant tonight. He was excellent when he came on v Roscommon too
    Leinster final on July 19th. AI semi final on 27th or 28th of July. Tullamore the likely venue for that game.


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