Galway GAA Discussion Thread #2

RMAOK

fearruanua wrote: »

Senior B in my opinion is glorified intermediate. To be fair to the football board they are trying to get their ducks in a row by reducing the number of senior football teams in the county. It's a pity the hurling board don't do the same because galway hurling i think would be all the better for it.

I doubt too many clubs who are senior at the moment would vote in favor of reducing the amount of teams in senior hurling - the name of being a senior club (regardless of actually being fit for senior hurling) can be more important than the overall benefit of Galway club hurling imo.

Maybe the hurling board has the power to do that without the consent of the clubs? I genuinely don't know tbh.

Robert2014

Any idea on a possible team for Sunday?

jr86

RMAOK wrote: »

I doubt too many clubs who are senior at the moment would vote in favor of reducing the amount of teams in senior hurling - the name of being a senior club (regardless of actually being fit for senior hurling) can be more important than the overall benefit of Galway club hurling imo.

Maybe the hurling board has the power to do that without the consent of the clubs? I genuinely don't know tbh.

A lot of players are in favour of reducing the number of senior teams - mainly to reduce the championship schedule throughout the year

Like yourself, I don't see the clubs overall going for it though

fearruanua

RMAOK wrote: »

I doubt too many clubs who are senior at the moment would vote in favor of reducing the amount of teams in senior hurling - the name of being a senior club (regardless of actually being fit for senior hurling) can be more important than the overall benefit of Galway club hurling imo.

Maybe the hurling board has the power to do that without the consent of the clubs? I genuinely don't know tbh.

It's 100% a status thing with a lot of clubs. As long as they stay senior they are happy. Agreed that clubs would be slow to change things but how did the football board get it through?? They would have been faced with the same problem but overcame it somehow by getting enough delegates on board. Or as you mentioned maybe they don't need the support of the clubs to change?? Not sure about that either

Utopia Parkway

Robert2014 wrote: »

Any idea on a possible team for Sunday?

Could be anything really. Think a few lads have fitness tests. Kyne out anyway and Michael Daly didn't play for NUIG midweek so must be a major doubt as well. Should be announced after training tonight.

Utopia Parkway

fearruanua wrote: »

Totally agree with some of the last posts. 24 senior club teams in Galway is crazy. I know kilkenny is a smaller county but they have half that number with 12 senior teams. And thats in a county that only really plays hurling. No offence to the big ball fraternity in kk.
Senior B in my opinion is glorified intermediate. To be fair to the football board they are trying to get their ducks in a row by reducing the number of senior football teams in the county. It's a pity the hurling board don't do the same because galway hurling i think would be all the better for it.

Way too many senior clubs. It's crazy really. The intermediate championship was poor enough last year. Oranmore were good but they won it at a canter. There wasn't one other decent side in the championship. That's not a healthy situation. The lower levels could do with a boost with some clubs going down.

Football had the exact same problem but have at least reduced to 18 with plans I think to go down to 16.

fearruanua

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Way too many senior clubs. It's crazy really. The intermediate championship was poor enough last year. Oranmore were good but they won it at a canter. There wasn't one other decent side in the championship. That's not a healthy situation. The lower levels could do with a boost with some clubs going down.

Football had the exact same problem but have at least reduced to 18 with plans I think to go down to 16.

Yeah I think that's the plan but I think it'll take a year longer than planned to get to 16. I think croke park put a stop to the numbers being relegated in such a short space of time by rule apparently. Plan was to relegate another three teams in 2019 and have 16 teams for the 2020 championship. Not sure whats happening this year tbh.

Utopia Parkway

The Galway team to play Cavan.

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdowngaa)
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Cumann Peile Naomh Anna)
4. David Wynne (Cumann Peile Mhaigh Cuilinn)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
7. Seán Kelly (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
8. Thomas Flynn (Stmarysgaa Athenry)
9. Ciaran Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Fintan Cooney (St. James')
11. Johnny Duane (St. James')
12. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
13. Danny Cummins (Claregalway)
14. Eoin Finnerty (Mountbellew Moylough)
15. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)

Gael85

Hulk Hands wrote: »

None of them has even remotely affected a final in the way Joyce did in 01. Joyce treated Connacht as a playground for nearly a decade. Bernard Brogan would compare up to him, none of the others

Current Dublin to Galway 98-01 is difficult to compare as fitness levels have differed. Football styles have also changed. Meath didn't play with sweeper in 01. Joyce got 5 from play that day. Kilkenny got 3 points from play in last year final. Mannion got 3 from play in 2017 final. Joyce one of the all time greats scoring 12-228 in 66 championship games.

GalwayLurker

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

The Galway team to play Cavan.

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdowngaa)
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Cumann Peile Naomh Anna)
4. David Wynne (Cumann Peile Mhaigh Cuilinn)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
7. Seán Kelly (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
8. Thomas Flynn (Stmarysgaa Athenry)
9. Ciaran Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Fintan Cooney (St. James')
11. Johnny Duane (St. James')
12. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
13. Danny Cummins (Claregalway)
14. Eoin Finnerty (Mountbellew Moylough)
15. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)

One of the weakest Galway sides in a long time, serious amount of backs playing! 😕

Utopia Parkway

GalwayLurker wrote: »

One of the weakest Galway sides in a long time, serious amount of backs playing! ��

Huge amount of players unavailable to be fair but never seen a manager that loves selecting backs up in the forwards more than Walsh.

GalwayLurker

Surely Cunningham from headford deserves a run? He slogged away with the panel last year, played with the juniors too. He must feel like he's wasting his time altogether when you see the likes of Duane named at 11. Madness.

RMAOK

Galway hurling team for Sunday

Fergal flannery
Jack grealish
Ronan Burke
Sean linnane
Kevin hussey
Padraig mannion
Aidan Harte
Cathal mannion
Sean loftus
Sean bleahane
Joe canning
Jack coyne
Thomas Monaghan
Brian concannon
Davy Glennon

Diabhal Beag

That's a nice side with plenty of youngsters for the hurling. Footballers very uninspiring but any win over Cavan would be crucial so hopefully it all clicks on Sunday.

Gael85

RMAOK wrote: »

Galway hurling team for Sunday

Fergal flannery
Jack grealish
Ronan Burke
Sean linnane
Kevin hussey
Padraig mannion
Aidan Harte
Cathal mannion
Sean loftus
Sean bleahane
Joe canning
Jack coyne
Thomas Monaghan
Brian concannon
Davy Glennon

Good of Aston Villa to release Jack Grealish for the weekend

TCDStudent1

GalwayLurker wrote: »

Surely Cunningham from headford deserves a run? He slogged away with the panel last year, played with the juniors too. He must feel like he's wasting his time altogether when you see the likes of Duane named at 11. Madness.

I'd have given him a run in this match. Duane will hardly play 11. Might play a sweeper role or something. Walsh will probably operate at 11.

I think Walsh is hindered by sigerson, Corofin, injuries. But that's a very poor team. If Cavan have a half decent team, they will this match.

MfMan

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

I'd have given him a run in this match. Duane will hardly play 11. Might play a sweeper role or something. Walsh will probably operate at 11.

I think Walsh is hindered by sigerson, Corofin, injuries. But that's a very poor team. If Cavan have a half decent team, they will this match.

It's terribly bad, and I'm unsure if Finnerty will tog either. KW is very constrained with injuries and unavailabilty etc. but he's brought some of this down on his own back. Very uninspiring management and squad deployment it must be said.

Big opportunity for some of the squad hurlers to put up their hand. Four Turlough' starters and three from Ahascragh, not something you'd predict too often, but all worth their shot. Midfield looks very useful.

One of the worst managers to get a 5 year stint.

He complained about injuries last week yet put out a full strength team for an FBD game so caused some of them.

Surely though 5 is the end of the road so we can start to progress next year and most of the lads are young anyway.

I don't for a second buy we made progress under him.
Winning Connachts, playing in D1 and a one last 4 placing is something we should always attain too given our resources and the return was coming either way talent wise.

You're not beating Dublin unless you're winning as many kickouts as them and competing the oppositions as well.
It's the one thing you start with and if you don't tick that box you can forget about it and KW just doesn't see that angle after all these years.

WillieMason

GalwayLurker wrote: »

One of the weakest Galway sides in a long time, serious amount of backs playing! 😕

Might be a false line up different team could line out

Always_Running

gilberto_eire wrote: »

One of the worst managers to get a 5 year stint.

He complained about injuries last week yet put out a full strength team for an FBD game so caused some of them.

Surely though 5 is the end of the road so we can start to progress next year and most of the lads are young anyway.

I don't for a second buy we made progress under him.
Winning Connachts, playing in D1 and a one last 4 placing is something we should always attain too given our resources and the return was coming either way talent wise.

You're not beating Dublin unless you're winning as many kickouts as them and competing the oppositions as well.
It's the one thing you start with and if you don't tick that box you can forget about it and KW just doesn't see that angle after all these years.

Talent wise has always been there for Galway and many managers before Walsh tried and failed to get the best out of the resources there.


Galway had gone eight years without winning a Connacht title, were many years playing Div 2 football and hadn't won a game in Croke park or reached AI semi final for decades. Maybe another manager will take Galway further but you can't ignore the progress Galway have made since Walsh arrived.

spurshero

Walsh is entitled to be Galway manager . A hero as a player . Got to a league final last year for a team that was supposed to be relegated . Won Connacht and got out of super 8 s . Well beaten in semi final but no major shame in that against the best team of all time according to most . Indeed if not for missed pen and lot of missed chances could have been closer . He will be under review again during and after season but for now he’s Man for the job and lets get behind him

Utopia Parkway

I think the best of this Galway team will probably come under another manager rather than Walsh. He is very conservative in his team selections, style of play, etc. It would be churlish though not to admit that he's got Galway in a better place than when he arrived into the job. There is a serious amount of young talent in the squad and on the fringes of the squad that should mature over the next few years so it might be the next manager (if the right one is selected) who gets to benefit the most from it.

TCDStudent1

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

I think the best of this Galway team will probably come under another manager rather than Walsh. He is very conservative in his team selections, style of play, etc. It would be churlish though not to admit that he's got Galway in a better place than when he arrived into the job. There is a serious amount of young talent in the squad and on the fringes of the squad that should mature over the next few years so it might be the next manager (if the right one is selected) who gets to benefit the most from it.

Yeah, for all his flaws, Walsh has Galway at a level way beyond where Mulholland had them. Always felt Mulholland messed up by bringing through too many under 21s at the same time. But his tenure was diabolical.

RMAOK

HT. Galway 1-15 laois 0-07

Galway played with the breeze in the first half.

RMAOK

Full time score:

Galway 1-27 laois 2-15

Diabhal Beag

Really poor second half.

Thought Hussey, the two Mannions and Blehane were pretty good.

Thousands left at full time before the Cavan match.

grbear

Routine win for the hurlers.

Not a lot of optimism about the footballers chances today. Hopefully they'll prove us wrong.

PCeeeee

What's the breeze like?

Utopia Parkway

5 changes to the football team. You'd wonder what's the point in naming teams at all?

Silke, Cooke, McDaid, Burke and Cunningham all start.

RMAOK

Surprised that the two corofin lads are out today

PCeeeee

Great to see

Utopia Parkway

RMAOK wrote: »

Surprised that the two corofin lads are out today

I'd say Walsh knows he needs a win today especially with the tough fixtures to come. 4 of the remaining 6 matches are away from home.

RMAOK

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

I'd say Walsh knows he needs a win today especially with the tough fixtures to come. 4 of the remaining 6 matches are away from home.

You could well be right, but it's not going to plan at the moment - a few points down.

Utopia Parkway

0-5 all at HT.

Kevin Walsh must have Galway practicing lateral hand passing every training session. They need to move the ball quicker up the field.

WillieMason

WillieMason wrote: »

Might be a false line up different team could line out

Great call lol

Utopia Parkway

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Better 2nd half thankfully.

RMAOK

Sounded from Galway Bay FM that the footballers made it very hard on themselves near the end of the second half.

They needed that win as I'm sure the dubs will be looking to make up for their loss to Monaghan next Saturday.

manofwisdom

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

5 changes to the football team. You'd wonder what's the point in naming teams at all?

Silke, Cooke, McDaid, Burke and Cunningham all start.

To try to fool Cavan into thinking they were playing as selected. Up to 11 championship starters for Galway today IMO so expected win or be it closer than it should have been.

Cavan_King

What did ye think of Cavan lads? Northern Sound commentary reckon we threw it away end of first half in a ten minute spell where we had 7 potential scores wide/dropped short.

TCDStudent1

Cavan_King wrote: »

What did ye think of Cavan lads? Northern Sound commentary reckon we threw it away end of first half in a ten minute spell where we had 7 potential scores wide/dropped short.

Wasn't impressed. Not sure you will survive based on what I saw.

Hulk Hands

That wasn't great. Needed to be far more clinical when we had the 14-12 advantage. Very poor first half with a lot of ponderous build up, only to kick silly ball to the sweeper. In saying that the ref rode us for the first 50 mins. Cunningham, although raw was a bright spark. Most good play came through Walsh, while Ian Burke had 3/4 excellent link ups. Silke was effective in the backs.

Depressing enough to see plenty leaving after the hurling. Galway is known as a big county but in reality it's fairly small when a lot of the county treat a team with indifference

Utopia Parkway

Hulk Hands wrote: »

That wasn't great. Needed to be far more clinical when we had the 14-12 advantage. Very poor first half with a lot of ponderous build up, only to kick silly ball to the sweeper. In saying that the ref rode us for the first 50 mins. Cunningham, although raw was a bright spark. Most good play came through Walsh, while Ian Burke had 3/4 excellent link ups. Silke was effective in the backs.

Depressing enough to see plenty leaving after the hurling. Galway is known as a big county but in reality it's fairly small when a lot of the county treat a team with indifference

Think they gave the official attendance as well over 8,000 but half might have left before the football.

Can't see many going to Croke Park next weekend especially with Ireland v England on before it.

spurshero

A win is a win . With next 2 games away in Monaghan and Dublin it was vital to get 2 points today . 5 will keep us up . I think if we could find a new player or 2 and with players to return it’s about staying in division one building for championship . Plenty of lads to come back to give more options like comer Conroy brannigan valrley etc . There needs to be pressure for each spot and I think that’s when we will see best of team . Also ya would like to
See ball go in faster at times and Cunningham deserves another chance . Finally kerin needs to stop getting involved in stuff that has nothing to do with him as one of these days he will push a ref to far .

Diabhal Beag

A win is a win but Christ we tried to piss away a comfortable win. Thought Seán Kelly in the second half had the best showing he's had in maroon. He was everywhere and setup so many opportunities. Walsh was a slack in his final touch but in the second half his surging runs likely tilted the match in our favour. GO'D, Cunningham, Flynn and Burke were also impressive.

The ref had no control of the match and Duggan was fierce lucky not to get sent off for a shocking high arm.

Wouldn't be expecting to take anything from Croker. At least this win sets us up for must-wins against Mayo away and the two home games.

Cavan_King wrote: »

What did ye think of Cavan lads? Northern Sound commentary reckon we threw it away end of first half in a ten minute spell where we had 7 potential scores wide/dropped short.

Ye definitely played the better football in that half. The kickpassing at times was excellent but ye really pissed away some handy frees. At half-time ye probably were 3 points the better side truth-be-told. Mackey could've had a massive impact if he came on sooner too. Ye played too much ball into our sweeper in the second half but your keeper saved ye bigtime twice. Galway probably should've scored 3 goals but for two great saves and some excellent pressure to make our forward Cunningham take too much out of the ball.

Hulk Hands

I thought that Duggan one was ok, bit high obviously but just one of those that happens sometimes. The ref didn't get too much else right however. He seemed to not know the mark existed. I watched some of the Monaghan game on my phone at HT and Monaghan were working little 20 yard kicks into McManus to win marks Aussie Rules style. Bar a couple of defensive marks at the start of the game it's like he decided it wasn't a rule anymore. Kerin getting involved and back chatting is a problem, but I did think it was good to see him standing up on that occasion with 2 Cavan lads kneeing Walsh on the ground with the linesman watching on.

Positive that the 2 Daly's were on the bench today also. Burke and Silke will be a loss but a little more optimistic heading to Dublin with the squad available today than the team named to start on Friday.

Utopia Parkway

Probably not ideal going up to play Dublin in Croke Park with them having lost their last two games. Granted 3rd string in O'Byrne Cup final. We might get a bit of a backlash and I doubt we'll see any of the Corofin lads again. I'd say Walsh only used them today because he knew how important 2 points was with fixtures to come. Dubs away a bit of a free hit I suppose.

Tough schedule for Peter Cooke. NUIG midweek. Galway today. And NUIG this midweek again. I didn't expect to see him play today. Will surely not start next weekend you'd think.

threeball

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Probably not ideal going up to play Dublin in Croke Park with them having lost their last two games. Granted 3rd string in O'Byrne Cup final. We might get a bit of a backlash and I doubt we'll see any of the Corofin lads again. I'd say Walsh only used them today because he knew how important 2 points was with fixtures to come. Dubs away a bit of a free hit I suppose.

Tough schedule for Peter Cooke. NUIG midweek. Galway today. And NUIG this midweek again. I didn't expect to see him play today. Will surely not start next weekend you'd think.

With all the talk, the powers that be still don't give a monkeys about the players. FBD rubbish, Siegerson, National league, club all crammed into crappy spring weather, a handful of games in the summer and an entire club campaign shoehorned into October and November. I see even the u14 and 15 leagues starting in February. They'll twiddle their thumbs through the good weather and somehow end up playing a final in December.

MfMan

Hulk Hands wrote: »

That wasn't great. Needed to be far more clinical when we had the 14-12 advantage. Very poor first half with a lot of ponderous build up, only to kick silly ball to the sweeper. In saying that the ref rode us for the first 50 mins. Cunningham, although raw was a bright spark. Most good play came through Walsh, while Ian Burke had 3/4 excellent link ups. Silke was effective in the backs.

Depressing enough to see plenty leaving after the hurling. Galway is known as a big county but in reality it's fairly small when a lot of the county treat a team with indifference

It was, I can assure you, 100 times better than Tuam last Sunday, even in the first half. At least they moved and kicked the ball forwards today

I have to say I'm failing to see any improvements in our coaching after all these years.

I just can't see how anyone could argue that we're not the worst coached team in the contender bracket with the worst kick out strategy yet we're five years under this management now.

My God we turn the ball over so cheaply about 3 times from every 4 attacks.

It's rarely down to great defending and more to do with a bad pass or player getting himself turned over from a run that wasn't on.

These types of games aren't the exception either.

Similarly every single time we have a lead instead of holding onto it or increasing it we get reeled in.

We resort to slow kickouts to contests we always lose and fail to build any further attacks.

What I will say is though I found it hilarious when we were holding the ball with 3mins to go that people in the crowd were roaring for us to attack.
Clueless logic and the right option in that respect.

Kickouts are the same as year 1-4, we'll get away with it apart from playing Dublin but you won't win an AI without beating them so it won't bebe good enough.

All in all, not much has changed. We're where we were in previous years so unless someone takes Dublin out we'll fall short.

We have the calibre of players to be the outright number two but I think we need someone else to push us on that final 5-10% we need to challenge Dublin.

Cathalachs

Two things I would like to allude too.For the techie people did Damien comer have something up on his instagram saying rumours of himself and k.walsh having a bust up were rubbish?
Was whelan injured for the hurlers or saving him for ucg duty?