Galway GAA Discussion Thread #2

grbear

Dismal stuff. I know there was a few lads missing but that was pathetic.

Happyilylost

Utopia Parkway wrote:

John Daly unfortunately is a serious loss at 6. Thought he was Galway's best player during the league after Walsh.

John Daly was listed as a sub for the county final. Anyone know was this just symbolic? He wasn't togged as far as I'm aware but was moving freely around the pitch before the game started.

Utopia Parkway

Happyilylost wrote: »

John Daly was listed as a sub for the county final. Anyone know was this just symbolic? He wasn't togged as far as I'm aware but was moving freely around the pitch before the game started.

Pretty sure he's gone for the year.

JJJackal

Any team without their 2 best players (comer and walsh) along with a mix of other starting players (maybe 8 more) will struggle in their first competitive game since lockdown.

We struggled more than we should against a team who probably had more to play for.

Some silly mistakes too added to the loss

Probably the biggest loss from this game is not the result but could be Comer (similar to VVD for Liverpool yesterday). Comer in the team mandates 2 opposing players to mark him

macslash

I missed both injuries. Were they bad?

testtech05

macslash wrote: »

I missed both injuries. Were they bad?

Comer pulled up running back seemed like a hamstring hopefully not too serious but hard to know. Duane seemed like a twisted ankle as he fell...

Hopefully neither too serious!

Utopia Parkway

Comer will be doing very well to play any championship football I fear. Limped out of Tuam Stadium. Joyce said it didn't look good. They should be able to beat Sligo without him but the Connacht final is on November 15 which is 4 weeks away. Depends on the severity of the hamstring injury. My fear is from his reaction that it was a tear more than a strain.

Frozen Veg

Happyilylost wrote: »

I'm not a big fan of Gleeson. But up until today pre covid he hadn't put a foot wrong bar a black card against Donegal. His mid range kick outs and ability to find a runner are sub standard. It's either short or boot it down the middle. What are the options though? Go back to Power who was sub keeper today. Or O Bealaoin. Kickouts are better from both but they are prone to mistakes. I felt PJ could of went to the nuclear option and brought in Flaherty from the U20s. Excellent under a high ball. Can place a kickout on a sixpence. And is comfortable on the ball. Might be too late for that now. I don't think Tyrone lost the run of themselves when Galway hammered them out the gate earlier in the league and I would hope PJ and the team will be able to regroup from this.

Finally hopefully Duane and more importantly Comer aren't too badly hurt.

Flaherty has an excellent short mid kick out. Very intelligent player. Great prospect.

mjp

Frozen Veg wrote: »

Flaherty has an excellent short mid kick out. Very intelligent player. Great prospect.

His kickouts were a mess for large portion of yesterday's game. Messed up a few short ones and ended up booting it down the middle for large portion of match after that

Utopia Parkway

The goalkeeping position has plagued Galway for the past 15 years. Can never seem to get it sorted. For all the grief Clarke and Hennelly get up in Mayo I would take either of them tomorrow.

SqueakyKneecap

Would ye agree with me that Adrian Faherty was the last very good Galway keeper? Needs to also be remembered he was on the worst panel in decades at the time too.

Happyilylost

SqueakyKneecap wrote:

Would ye agree with me that Adrian Faherty was the last very good Galway keeper? Needs to also be remembered he was on the worst panel in decades at the time too.

Faherty was excellent. Much like Donoghue before him. It's a pity both went to England and stalled progress. Both from Claregalway. Maybe young Flaherty is destined to be next Claregalway man to give it a go.

manofwisdom

That was Alan Mulholland like awful defending by a Galway managed side. Someone else said here it was probably worse than the tripe under Kevin Walsh? at least under Walsh Galway was well organised in defence, hard to beat and even harder to score against as the 0-12,1-11,1-9,1-11,0-12,1-9,0-12 conceded in 7 of the 9 games that he managed against Mayo proved.

wirelessdude01

manofwisdom wrote: »

That was Alan Mulholland like awful defending by a Galway managed side. Someone else said here it was probably worse than the tripe under Kevin Walsh? at least under Walsh Galway was well organised in defence, hard to beat and even harder to score against as the 0-12,1-11,1-9,1-11,0-12,1-9,0-12 conceded in 7 of the 9 games that he managed against Mayo proved.

From a Mayo perspective I said early on that it had the air of an early season challenge game. Neither defense really put a glove on anyone. Neither side really covered runners,. Mayo had more to play for and when they got the run on ye they made hay for 20mins or so. SA and CG had woeful days at the office and quite how SA didn't get a card is beyond me. Mayo adapted better to having what would be considered first team regulars missing but Galway as a whole didn't bother turning up. RF aside they didn't seem tuned in.

MfMan

manofwisdom wrote: »

That was Alan Mulholland like awful defending by a Galway managed side. Someone else said here it was probably worse than the tripe under Kevin Walsh? at least under Walsh Galway was well organised in defence, hard to beat and even harder to score against as the 0-12,1-11,1-9,1-11,0-12,1-9,0-12 conceded in 7 of the 9 games that he managed against Mayo proved.

It's one bad day at the office. If there's anything in them, there should be a backlash next day out. Don't forget, there's a heck of a lot of players to come back into that team. I for one don't want to go back to the KW days of puke football.

threeball

manofwisdom wrote: »

That was Alan Mulholland like awful defending by a Galway managed side. Someone else said here it was probably worse than the tripe under Kevin Walsh? at least under Walsh Galway was well organised in defence, hard to beat and even harder to score against as the 0-12,1-11,1-9,1-11,0-12,1-9,0-12 conceded in 7 of the 9 games that he managed against Mayo proved.

We don't need to go back to them days. Yes we kept the score down but couldn't score for nuts on the other end. The defense was doing very well during the league as our scoring difference would show. Amazingly we still have a positive score difference even after a humiliation like yesterday.

The main problem is the 2nd string lads just aren't up to it. Put a good footballer like Kelly at FB yesterday and a lot of damage would be avoided, it would protect a dodgy keeper too. I was surprised how poor he was on that 3rd goal. That should be his forte as kickouts are obviously not but he fell down on both fronts.

Four of the back six that started were very weak and once Mayo got a run on them it went from bad to worse. SA was doing the same headless stuff he did against Tyrone in KW's final league game.

grbear

The backs got very little help from the forwards which really allowed Mayo to open them up. Looking at the highlights (could you call them highlights if you're from Galway?) last night I was struck by how often a Mayo defender was able to carry the ball into the Galway half with little or no resistance.

fearruanua

Galway V Dublin under 20's all ireland final has been pulled due to level 5 restrictions.

Very harsh on all involved

MfMan

fearruanua wrote: »

Galway V Dublin under 20's all ireland final has been pulled due to level 5 restrictions.

Very harsh on all involved

Harsh, but maybe Galway will be in a position to field a full-strength team if it does get played before year end.

fearruanua

MfMan wrote: »

Harsh, but maybe Galway will be in a position to field a full-strength team if it does get played before year end.

I hope you're right. it's a big "if"

manofwisdom

With U20 All Ireland now pulled it shows how daft it was to play last Saturdays semi-final when Galway and kerry were missing a number of players due to covid.

BENDYBINN

manofwisdom wrote: »

With U20 All Ireland now pulled it shows how daft it was to play last Saturdays semi-final when Galway and kerry were missing a number of players due to covid.

Sure it wasn’t daft at all............didn’t we bate them welll....

Utopia Parkway

Heard that Galway would still have been missing a good few players had the game gone ahead on Saturday. Hopefully they can rearrange the final for some time in December and have everyone available. The fear obviously is that it's now never played.

MfMan

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Heard that Galway would still have been missing a good few players had the game gone ahead on Saturday. Hopefully they can rearrange the final for some time in December and have everyone available. The fear obviously is that it's now never played.

Could we claim the title based on scoring difference over the 2 semi-finals - force majeure?

Pogue eile

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Heard that Galway would still have been missing a good few players had the game gone ahead on Saturday. Hopefully they can rearrange the final for some time in December and have everyone available. The fear obviously is that it's now never played.

I think that once it has gotten this far they will have to play it as some point, be shocked if they didnt.

Utopia Parkway

Galway team to play Dublin

1. B Power
2. S Kelly
3. S Ó Maolchiaráin
4. J Foley
5. L Silke
6. G O’Donnell
7. J Heaney (c)
8. C D’Arcy
9. T Flynn
10. P Kelly
11. P Conroy
12. J Leonard
13. R Finnerty
14. A Varley
15. I Burke

Happyilylost

Utopia Parkway wrote:

1. B Power 2. S Kelly 3. S Ó Maolchiaráin 4. J Foley 5. L Silke 6. G O’Donnell 7. J Heaney (c) 8. C D’Arcy 9. T Flynn 10. P Kelly 11. P Conroy 12. J Leonard 13. R Finnerty 14. A Varley 15. I Burke

Closer to where we need to be. Foley had a great year. Hopefully can continue. Paul Kelly a bit random despite his obvious talent. Leonard and Burke lucky to hold their spots. Would liked to of seen Dessie get a chance. Even with the changes without Shane and Damo this will be a struggle.

MfMan

Happyilylost wrote: »

Closer to where we need to be. Foley had a great year. Hopefully can continue. Paul Kelly a bit random despite his obvious talent. Leonard and Burke lucky to hold their spots. Would liked to of seen Dessie get a chance. Even with the changes without Shane and Damo this will be a struggle.

Completely new from 1 - 4. Silke a bit lucky to hold on too, can't be living on his name / club form for much longer. I'd give Burke (just about) and Leonard (because he's new and deserves another go) a pass for this one. Being dropped might waken up Ml Daly, I'd say mgmt are starting to seriously look at what he *can't / won't * do. Is Eoin Finnerty on the panel? If Mayo can pick guys based on club form, we should too.

Mr Velo

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Galway team to play Dublin

1. B Power
2. S Kelly
3. S Ó Maolchiaráin
4. J Foley
5. L Silke
6. G O’Donnell
7. J Heaney (c)
8. C D’Arcy
9. T Flynn
10. P Kelly
11. P Conroy
12. J Leonard
13. R Finnerty
14. A Varley
15. I Burke

Complete dead rubber now apart from getting some more game time under the belts.

Mr Velo

Mr Velo wrote: »

Complete dead rubber now apart from getting some more game time under the belts.

Even though winning the league was going to be somewhat farcical based on the conditions changing01, it's even more farcical that they were saying Kerry won their 21st title when Donegal rested players for a championship game in the decider.

Who's idea was it to put teams out the following weekend and illegitise the tournament further. Madness.

ShamNNspace

Galway/Dublin pointless match now, no bearing on title or relegation

threeball

ShamNNspace wrote: »

Galway/Dublin pointless match now, no bearing on title or relegation

Galway badly need a reaction after last week so certainly not pointless for them.

SqueakyKneecap

Preparing to tear my hair out for Bernie's kickouts against the wind in the second half but reasonably happy with that.

Conroy and Paul Kelly impressive. But you'd worry about Small and Kilkenny causin murder in the second half.

Hope Conneely gets a lot if time off the bench. Himself and Varley could play hell.

testtech05

Conroy got some excellent scored there. I'd fear we could be in bother against the wind but it's a step up from last weekend at least. Not that it would be too hard I suppose.

Anyone see what happened to flynn. Hopefully not a serious injury

ClanofLams

Exhibition stuff in first half from Conroy. Hard to believe same lad broke both legs two years ago at 29

grbear

Hard to see them holding on to get something out of it but at least it's a lot better than last week.

Happyilylost

Hard to get a free.

That's what happens when you dont work on kickouts.

Dont be blaming the goalie. The manager should be implementing it and it's the players responsibility to open and enter the space.

Even the one before that, we won the ball but couldn't settle on the ball and lost a free in, it wouldn't have happened had a player got an easy ball in space.

It does my head in, it's the one aspect of the game you control, the team who won 5 in a row do it, yet two successive managers can't see how important it is.

Happyilylost

gilberto_eire wrote:

That's what happens when you dont work on kickout.

Not working on the kickouts caused Paul Kelly to drop the ball and Dublin to break and score a goal? We've retained more kickouts than Dublin thus far.

kippy

gilberto_eire wrote: »

That's what happens when you dont work on kickouts.

Dont be blaming the goalie. The manager should be implementing it and it's the players responsibility to open and enter the space.

Even the one before that, we won the ball but couldn't settle on the ball and lost a free in, it wouldn't have happened had a player got an easy ball in space.

It does my head in, it's the one aspect of the game you control, the team who won 5 in a row do it, yet two successive managers can't see how important it is.

Nothing to do with not working on kickouts.
Poor decision making and even poorer execution. The team who won five in a row don't get it right all the time either.
This nonsense about kickouts does my head in.

Happyilylost

Happyilylost wrote: »

Not working on the kickouts caused Paul Kelly to drop the ball and Dublin to break and score a goal? We've retained more kickouts than Dublin thus far.

It was a contested possession, harder to retain than a ball rolling towards you running into it.

obi604

Galway in last few minutes doing way too much passing around and then loosing Possession.

SqueakyKneecap

Hard to blame Power. The midfield today wouldn't fight sleep..

Doctors room ghost

Big improvement for the footballers in a week.still some work to be done.well done to them

Utopia Parkway

Galway were doing fairly well until they got 4 points up. They then started coughing up cheap possession inside their own half and in midfield and it led straight to Dublin scoring a quick 1-3. Was playing catch up after that and didn’t really look like getting level again. Dublin got a bit of a fortunate goal right at the death to seal it.

Conroy excellent in fairness. Tough first game for Foley who had to mark Paddy Small who was on fire. He gave away a good few frees as well. Mulkerrin kept Con quiet until injury time.

Looked like Flynn went of with an injury. Don’t need too many more of those this close to the championship.

threeball

Who's missing from the first 15 at the moment besides Comer?

Happyilylost

threeball wrote:

Who's missing from the first 15 at the moment besides Comer?

Two Dalys were injured today. John won't be back by the looks of it. Ronan Steede and Molloy still out. Matthew Tierney will come back into the mix as he's carrying an injury.

SqueakyKneecap

threeball wrote: »

Who's missing from the first 15 at the moment besides Comer?

John Daly, Duggan (a big loss last two seasons), Steede (I'd have him starting) and Comer.

threeball

Happyilylost wrote: »

Two Dalys were injured today. John won't be back by the looks of it. Ronan Steede and Molloy still out. Matthew Tierney will come back into the mix as he's carrying an injury.

Won't have John so he's out of the mix. Molloy wasn't great for Corofin this year so I doubt he'll make an impact. So basically down to Comer and Tierney.

They seemed to have slowed down their counterattack significantly since the spring and suffering because of it.

Happyilylost

Link won't post but PJ has said couple of players had two miss out today due to covid.