Galway GAA Discussion Thread #2

tototoe

grbear wrote: »

I'm a little conflicted about that Supermacs statement. On one hand it's obviously embarrassing that our most important sponsor feels that they have to issue statements like that but it would give you some hope that we might finally get told just what the hell was going on.

It's hard to believe that someone at Supermacs hasn't seen at least one of the reports mentioned in the statement but even if they haven't I'm sure they are getting enough information to have a good understanding of how money was mismanaged over the years.

The frustrating thing is that it's become increasingly obvious that the line about there not being enough money is only half the story. There's a lot of money in Galway GAA but a lot has been wasted.

They must be getting stonewalled somewhere or by someone to issue that statement. There is obviously shenanigans going on somewhere in Galway GAA,

Will be very interesting to see where this goes and like above I'm sure there are a few other county boards sweating a bit on reading it.

Happyilylost

The Galway Senior Football Manager Interview Comittee consists of the following:

- Pat Kearney - Chairman
- Seamus O’Grady - Secretary
- Michael Burke - Treasurer
- Mary Judge - Football Secretary
- Kevin Clancy - Football Chairman
- Tony Lee - Delegate

cosatron

I find it very unprofessional that both our sponsor and board have to air their dirty laundry in the media, surely they can discuss there grievance behind closed doors.

RobbieRuns

cosatron wrote: »

I find it very unprofessional that both our sponsor and board have to air their dirty laundry in the media, surely they can discuss there grievance behind closed doors.

Think exactly the same. Love the support of Pat and Supermac's, but surely that question of "what are you spending my money on?" could stay between them. It is implying that they are doing something wrong, purely by going public with the question.

irishgeo

RobbieRuns wrote: »

Think exactly the same. Love the support of Pat and Supermac's, but surely that question of "what are you spending my money on?" could stay between them. It is implying that they are doing something wrong, purely by going public with the question.

The fact there is has been 2 audits and they haven't been made public might be ringing some alarms. Maybe Pat McDonagh got wind of what the results of the audit were.

Xenophile

Pat McDonagh is entitled to cash in his chips when he sees fit.

BENDYBINN

Xenophile wrote: »

Pat McDonagh is entitled to cash in his chips when he sees fit.

You mean ketchup in his chips?

bcklschaps

RobbieRuns wrote: »

Think exactly the same. Love the support of Pat and Supermac's, but surely that question of "what are you spending my money on?" could stay between them. It is implying that they are doing something wrong, purely by going public with the question.

I suspect he has asked those questions and got fobbed off.... soo he was left with no option.

Frozen Veg

irishgeo wrote: »

The fact there is has been 2 audits and they haven't been made public might be ringing some alarms. Maybe Pat McDonagh got wind of what the results of the audit were.

Two audits. Rumors of bags of cash been found in the boot of a car.

Michael Donohue walking away due to issues with county board.

Long term sponsors calling the county board out in public.

And yet Kearney is trying to paint a picture that there are no issues.

RobbieRuns

bcklschaps wrote: »

I suspect he has asked those questions and got fobbed off.... soo he was left with no option.

Possibly, and I do not disagree with what most are saying. But still think that it is by going public on the question of what his money is being spent on......... is an implication of wrongdoing, or an accusation of mis use of funds, which is sad.

Joe Kane

Lads pulling out of Duggan Park with a boot full of cash. Audit reports being kept hidden.

That County Board is rotten to the core. This has been coming for a fair while now.

No fear of all the money being accounted for.

Diabhal Beag

Keeping it private is only letting "negligence", to put it very mildly, go unscathed. If they have nothing to hide they'd be more open.

Everything from lost gate receipts to shopping sprees in NYC are commonly mentioned. Surely those rumours need to be put to rest by those involved.

I think Pat Mc is not the saint we'd like to think he is but he's done a lot for Galway GAA. He deserves not to be treated like dirt.

Spanish Johnny

The reports are not kept hidden. They were sent to the clubs last year. If people arent seeing them from there clubs the clubs need to be asked for them. The Mazars report was also printed by papers at the time.

A significant amout of misinformation out there that reflects poorly on McDonagh as . Galway GAA is being run by Croke Park since January of this year. How this is not being pointed out in all of this is interesting.

seligehgit

Very good podcast re the on going controversy.

https://podcast.rasset.ie/podcasts/audio/2019/1002/20191002_rteradio1-drivetime-galwaygaae_c21630461_21630467_232_.mp3

DVDM93

It is being reported in this week's Connacht Tribune that it is now accepted that Francis Forde & Noel Larkin will not be taking on each other for the position of Galway Senior Hurling manager.

Micheál Donoghue's selectors are two of the three candidates nominated to succeed the Clarinbridge man in the position.

One of them will go forward with the backing of the outgoing management, with the exception of Donoghue. That would embrace Damien Joyce, Cyril Donnellan, Dave Morris & Conditioning coach Lukasz Kirszenstein.

The major difficulty is that whether it's Forde or Larkin who goes through the interview process, there is now increasing speculation that they will not be prepared to take over as Galway manager unless County Board Chairman, Pat Kearney is willing to step aside.

This comes in the aftermath of Donoghue's shock departure from the position back in August after four years in charge.

The third nominee, Tony Ward, is seen as the outsider in the race.

Robert2014

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threeball

DVDM93 wrote: »

It is being reported in this week's Connacht Tribune that it is now accepted that Francis Forde & Noel Larkin will not be taking on each other for the position of Galway Senior Hurling manager.

Micheál Donoghue's selectors are two of the three candidates nominated to succeed the Clarinbridge man in the position.

One of them will go forward with the backing of the outgoing management, with the exception of Donoghue. That would embrace Damien Joyce, Cyril Donnellan, Dave Morris & Conditioning coach Lukasz Kirszenstein.

The major difficulty is that whether it's Forde or Larkin who goes through the interview process, there is now increasing speculation that they will not be prepared to take over as Galway manager unless County Board Chairman, Pat Kearney is willing to step aside.

This comes in the aftermath of Donoghue's shock departure from the position back in August after four years in charge.

The third nominee, Tony Ward, is seen as the outsider in the race.

Tony Ward for manager in that case, Kearney doesn't sound like a man going anywhere

Frozen Veg

DVDM93 wrote: »

It is being reported in this week's Connacht Tribune that it is now accepted that Francis Forde & Noel Larkin will not be taking on each other for the position of Galway Senior Hurling manager.

Micheál Donoghue's selectors are two of the three candidates nominated to succeed the Clarinbridge man in the position.

One of them will go forward with the backing of the outgoing management, with the exception of Donoghue. That would embrace Damien Joyce, Cyril Donnellan, Dave Morris & Conditioning coach Lukasz Kirszenstein.

The major difficulty is that whether it's Forde or Larkin who goes through the interview process, there is now increasing speculation that they will not be prepared to take over as Galway manager unless County Board Chairman, Pat Kearney is willing to step aside.

This comes in the aftermath of Donoghue's shock departure from the position back in August after four years in charge.

The third nominee, Tony Ward, is seen as the outsider in the race.

As Buff would say OUT OUT OUT with Kearney.

thesultan

What standard would the previous all Ireland club hurling winning clubs be in Galway now?

threeball

thesultan wrote: »

What standard would the previous all Ireland club hurling winning clubs be in Galway now?

Portumna are in free fall. Sarsfields and athenry are middle of the road. Clarinbridge are bouncing back towards the top. St Thomas's are still in the mix to win it again.

jr86

Looking at Salthill win a 6th minor west board title in a row and football clubs like themselves, Moycullen, Claregalway, and Oranmore (hurling and football), and hurling clubs like Castlegar, Athenry, and Turloughmore fielding up to 4 teams in a particular age group at under 12 and under 14 level, will it get to a stage in the future where some new clubs will need to be formed within existing parishes to level the playing field at underage somewhat?

Surely a Turloughmore/Carnmore football team would have to be considered for sure. Claregalway's playing pick is absolutely monstrous, and is rising and rising since the 00s. They implemented a secondary school in the area recently to cope with this. But also what about separate clubs in the likes of Salthill and Knocknacarra for example?

In 20 years time it is surely impossible to see rural clubs being in anyway competitive, at all grades, bar a few exceptions. The commuter areas will only grow and grow, while populations will dwindle in the country. Not nearly as many lads going into trades anymore and the money just isn't there in farming

Utopia Parkway

Looks like there is county board interference in both the hurling and football appointments, currently.

Pádraic Joyce is seen by many as the favourite to succeed Kevin Walsh as Galway Senior Football manager.

A potential stumbling block, however, could be the make-up of Joyce's management team, it's being reported in this week's Connacht Tribune.

John Divilly, Liam Sammon, John Concannon & Mick Culhane were all involved with Joyce this year with the Galway U-20 Footballers.

There appears to be some resistance to that group taking over the Galway Seniors en-bloc.

Joyce is surely aware of that & may be altering his backroom personnel in any event.

This is also speculation that Alan Flynn could link up with Joyce in a coaching capacity, following his withdrawal as a nominee.

grbear

jr86 wrote: »

Looking at Salthill win a 6th minor west board title in a row and football clubs like themselves, Moycullen, Claregalway, and Oranmore (hurling and football), and hurling clubs like Castlegar, Athenry, and Turloughmore fielding up to 4 teams in a particular age group at under 12 and under 14 level, will it get to a stage in the future where some new clubs will need to be formed within existing parishes to level the playing field at underage somewhat?

Surely a Turloughmore/Carnmore football team would have to be considered for sure. Claregalway's playing pick is absolutely monstrous, and is rising and rising since the 00s. They implemented a secondary school in the area recently to cope with this. But also what about separate clubs in the likes of Salthill and Knocknacarra for example?

In 20 years time it is surely impossible to see rural clubs being in anyway competitive, at all grades, bar a few exceptions. The commuter areas will only grow and grow, while populations will dwindle in the country. Not nearly as many lads going into trades anymore and the money just isn't there in farming

Surely a Corofin/Belclare split would have to be part of those discussions? Hard to see how you could impose a split anywhere else and leave such a big parish untouched.


Trouble is you'll need to pay for new facilities especially for the City clubs where land would cost a fortune. God only knows how much Salthills pitch would be worth if it was sold to a developer tomorrow.

threeball

grbear wrote: »

jr86 wrote: »

Looking at Salthill win a 6th minor west board title in a row and football clubs like themselves, Moycullen, Claregalway, and Oranmore (hurling and football), and hurling clubs like Castlegar, Athenry, and Turloughmore fielding up to 4 teams in a particular age group at under 12 and under 14 level, will it get to a stage in the future where some new clubs will need to be formed within existing parishes to level the playing field at underage somewhat?

Surely a Turloughmore/Carnmore football team would have to be considered for sure. Claregalway's playing pick is absolutely monstrous, and is rising and rising since the 00s. They implemented a secondary school in the area recently to cope with this. But also what about separate clubs in the likes of Salthill and Knocknacarra for example?

In 20 years time it is surely impossible to see rural clubs being in anyway competitive, at all grades, bar a few exceptions. The commuter areas will only grow and grow, while populations will dwindle in the country. Not nearly as many lads going into trades anymore and the money just isn't there in farming

Surely a Corofin/Belclare split would have to be part of those discussions? Hard to see how you could impose a split anywhere else and leave such a big parish untouched.


Trouble is you'll need to pay for new facilities especially for the City clubs where land would cost a fortune. God only knows how much Salthills pitch would be worth if it was sold to a developer tomorrow.

If the situation in Dublin and Cork is anything to go by then we won't see splitting of superclubs. Kilmacud, Na Fianna, Ballyboden, Nemo Rangers have only gotten bigger and bigger. Their second and third teams are often stronger than other clubs first teams in most grades they play. I don't see Galway being any different as there will be huge resistance from within the club's themselves.

Utopia Parkway

jr86 wrote: »

Looking at Salthill win a 6th minor west board title in a row and football clubs like themselves, Moycullen, Claregalway, and Oranmore (hurling and football), and hurling clubs like Castlegar, Athenry, and Turloughmore fielding up to 4 teams in a particular age group at under 12 and under 14 level, will it get to a stage in the future where some new clubs will need to be formed within existing parishes to level the playing field at underage somewhat?

Surely a Turloughmore/Carnmore football team would have to be considered for sure. Claregalway's playing pick is absolutely monstrous, and is rising and rising since the 00s. They implemented a secondary school in the area recently to cope with this. But also what about separate clubs in the likes of Salthill and Knocknacarra for example?

In 20 years time it is surely impossible to see rural clubs being in anyway competitive, at all grades, bar a few exceptions. The commuter areas will only grow and grow, while populations will dwindle in the country. Not nearly as many lads going into trades anymore and the money just isn't there in farming

Yeah all the clubs dominating at underage in both football and hurling are basically commuter areas of Galway city. They have the growing populations and numbers at underage. Hasn't quite carried through to senior level yet but it will eventually.

seligehgit

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Alan Flynn has removed himself from the running for the Galway job (football).

Is it true Liam Kearns is in the running for the job?

Two rock solid Galway GAA men told me as much last night.

threeball

seligehgit wrote: »

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Alan Flynn has removed himself from the running for the Galway job (football).

Is it true Liam Kearns is in the running for the job?

Two rock solid Galway GAA men told me as much last night.

His name is on the shortlist but we haven't a pot to piss in so I doubt he's really in the running.

basillarkin

threeball wrote: »

Portumna are in free fall. Sarsfields and athenry are middle of the road. Clarinbridge are bouncing back towards the top. St Thomas's are still in the mix to win it again.

portumna and castlegar have retained their senior A status for 2020, Kiltormer are still intermediate.

RMAOK

basillarkin wrote: »

portumna and castlegar have retained their senior A status for 2020, Kiltormer are still intermediate.

Not forgetting Clarinbridge who have just gotten promoted to senior A for next year.

windy shepard henderson

threeball wrote: »

His name is on the shortlist but we haven't a pot to piss in so I doubt he's really in the running.

he wouldn't want to be in fairness , he just got a fairly talented tipperary team relegated to division 3 , had a very weak campaign again this year in the championship

clare have out done tipperary over the last few years bar when they made the semi finals against mayo , since then they have gone back since then

one of the best coaches in the country is alan flynn , colm collins has a lot to thank for, a lot of strides we have made recently have been down to him , we have no where near the level of talent tipperary have but flynn brought clare on 10 fold in his time as coach here and overlapped both tipp and cork in the process

he would be a far far better choice then liam kerins trust me....