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Sunday in hell tour- William fotheringham

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Yes, really enjoyed it. To the degree I'd go again, if it does come back (hopefully later in the week/ weekend in Bray!) and probably buy that version of the dvd, if its available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Miklos


    Fair play to all involved in organising the screenings, I was at Bray last night and it was absolutely brilliant. I’ve watched it three or four times on YouTube but the screening really brought it to another level.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,887 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    fotheringham mentioned that at the screening in ballymun, it was the biggest screen he'd seen the movie on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    fotheringham mentioned that at the screening in ballymun, it was the biggest screen he'd seen the movie on.
    And he reckoned last night was the biggest audience of the tour (and the best quality projector).

    He was talking about potentially coming back for a tour. Although it wasn't only cyclists, hopefully the news of the take up will spread to a few other cycling shows, like The Cycling Podcast and Ned Boulting, both of whom limit their live shows to Britain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭lizzylad84


    Films on YouTube if anyone wants to re watch it


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,887 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    lizzylad84 wrote: »
    Films on YouTube if anyone wants to re watch it
    as mentioned above though, it's not the same edition of the movie (unless that has since been uploaded).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    lizzylad84 wrote: »
    Films on YouTube if anyone wants to re watch it
    The version that's being used on the tour is a remastered Danish Film Institute version.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    The version that's being used on the tour is a remastered Danish Film Institute version.

    It looks alot cleaner and I prefer the Danish with Subtitles over the English version.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    WF mentioned before the film started that you'd earn his admiration if you managed to spot bernard hainault in the documentary.

    i will sell you the answer for a fiver.
    This has been bothering me a bit as I didn't think Hinault rode it that early in his career. Dug out his biography tonight (ironically written by WF) and it would appear from it that he rode it first in '78.

    Checked Wiki and they give '78,'79,'80,'81 &'82 (1st in '81) with no DNF's.

    ...and I couldn't spot him at the registration in the film. He would have been riding for Gitane in 1976 (pre Renault/Gitane era).

    :confused::confused:


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Riding round the track before the race arrived?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Weepsie wrote: »
    This also popped up on my Facebook. Irish film from a few years earlier.....
    When men were men! Tiny rear sprockets!

    Enjoyed that. Roche was seriously relaxed throughout looking like he was on a Sunday club ride at the end of each stage. Can't imagine any cyclist now at that level doing impromptu interviews while actually racing.

    Some riders carrying saddlebags - not confident of roadside support?

    And the road surfaces looked great - when we supposedly had no money!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,887 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    registration in the film. He would have been riding for Gitane in 1976 (pre Renault/Gitane era).
    he repeats the claim explicitly in the book.
    i dug out the movie here cos i'm staring at progress bars:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxBTVU9JDrA

    there's a gitane rider at 19:07, no. 84, but generally has his back to the camera. and two more guys at 19:18, again with their backs to the camera.

    that's about it, really? on that version of the movie anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    ..there's a gitane rider at 19:07, no. 84, but generally has his back to the camera..
    It's hard to tell from the angle alright.

    This quote is taken from The Badger's Wiki page:
    Guimard and Hinault got along well, and the latter was kept out of the high-profile races for 1976....
    Surely Paris Roubaix would have been considered a 'high profile' race?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Hinault


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Going back to Merckx and the constant adjusting. They had a bike fit specialist on a recent velonews podcast, who had fitted Axel Merckx. It turned out Axel had one leg longer than the other, and both Eddy and the fitter (without doing the same full fit) thought that this could've been part Eddy's issue as a pro with the constant adjustement. i.e. he could never be 100% comfortable as he'd fix one side or the other, and hence the constant adjustment.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,887 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i vaguely remember reading that merckx started doing that after his bad crash on the track?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,887 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    maybe because i keyed up 'a sunday in hell', youtube just suggested this to me.
    i wonder why they got what sounds like a liverpudlian to voice for merckx?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-zeW_tKlxQ


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,887 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    there's a gitane rider at 19:07, no. 84, but generally has his back to the camera. and two more guys at 19:18, again with their backs to the camera.
    Heh, I just noticed that on the inside back of the book, hardback edition, that there's a facsimile of the list of each team and their members, from the race. Guess who's listed as rider number 84.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Heh, I just noticed that on the inside back of the book, hardback edition, that there's a facsimile of the list of each team and their members, from the race. Guess who's listed as rider number 84.
    :eek::eek::eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,131 ✭✭✭Bambaata


    who??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Bambaata wrote: »
    who??
    Hinault


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,887 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Weepsie wrote: »
    This also popped up on my Facebook. Irish film from a few years later.

    that section for half a minute, starting at 16 minutes in, is a little weird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    that section for half a minute, starting at 16 minutes in, is a little weird.
    Reminds me of those British psychedelic horror film of the late 60's/early 70's.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Reminds me of those British psychedelic horror film of the late 60's/early 70's.
    I thought the same watching a Sunday in Hell without the English Voiceover. Like a trippy hammer horror. WF was saying the music was done with no input from the director at all and completely seperate from him, which I thought weird, he didn't even give an indication of where to go with it and reportedly would have preferred no music at all.

    I found this astonishing as i thought the music was a big part of the movie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Matt Bianco


    As a postscript to the events, a donation of €525 was made to Pieta House which will help their service at a time of peak demand. Across both events, 330 attended the two showings which were a great opportunity for many to come together and see the movie how it was meant to be seen.

    A huge thanks is owed to to William, the committees of Dublin Wheelers and Sorrento Cycling Clubs and the broader cycling community for making this possible


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