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Sunday in hell tour- William fotheringham

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    #62
    Weepsie
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,441 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    For the records, the director's other film Stars and Watercarriers about the 73 Giro is also on Youtube


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    #63
    magicbastarder
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    lizzylad84 wrote: »
    Films on YouTube if anyone wants to re watch it
    as mentioned above though, it's not the same edition of the movie (unless that has since been uploaded).


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    #64
    Macy0161
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    lizzylad84 wrote: »
    Films on YouTube if anyone wants to re watch it
    The version that's being used on the tour is a remastered Danish Film Institute version.


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    #65
    CramCycle
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    Macy0161 wrote: »
    The version that's being used on the tour is a remastered Danish Film Institute version.

    It looks alot cleaner and I prefer the Danish with Subtitles over the English version.


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    #66
    Weepsie
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    This also popped up on my Facebook. Irish film from a few years later.



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    #67
    Wishbone Ash
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    WF mentioned before the film started that you'd earn his admiration if you managed to spot bernard hainault in the documentary.

    i will sell you the answer for a fiver.
    This has been bothering me a bit as I didn't think Hinault rode it that early in his career. Dug out his biography tonight (ironically written by WF) and it would appear from it that he rode it first in '78.

    Checked Wiki and they give '78,'79,'80,'81 &'82 (1st in '81) with no DNF's.

    ...and I couldn't spot him at the registration in the film. He would have been riding for Gitane in 1976 (pre Renault/Gitane era).

    :confused::confused:


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    #68
    CramCycle
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    Riding round the track before the race arrived?


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    #69
    Wishbone Ash
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    Weepsie wrote: »
    This also popped up on my Facebook. Irish film from a few years earlier.....
    When men were men! Tiny rear sprockets!

    Enjoyed that. Roche was seriously relaxed throughout looking like he was on a Sunday club ride at the end of each stage. Can't imagine any cyclist now at that level doing impromptu interviews while actually racing.

    Some riders carrying saddlebags - not confident of roadside support?

    And the road surfaces looked great - when we supposedly had no money!


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    #70
    magicbastarder
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    Wishbone Ash wrote: »
    registration in the film. He would have been riding for Gitane in 1976 (pre Renault/Gitane era).
    he repeats the claim explicitly in the book.
    i dug out the movie here cos i'm staring at progress bars:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxBTVU9JDrA

    there's a gitane rider at 19:07, no. 84, but generally has his back to the camera. and two more guys at 19:18, again with their backs to the camera.

    that's about it, really? on that version of the movie anyway.


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    #71
    Wishbone Ash
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    ..there's a gitane rider at 19:07, no. 84, but generally has his back to the camera..
    It's hard to tell from the angle alright.

    This quote is taken from The Badger's Wiki page:
    Guimard and Hinault got along well, and the latter was kept out of the high-profile races for 1976....
    Surely Paris Roubaix would have been considered a 'high profile' race?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Hinault


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    #72
    Macy0161
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    Going back to Merckx and the constant adjusting. They had a bike fit specialist on a recent velonews podcast, who had fitted Axel Merckx. It turned out Axel had one leg longer than the other, and both Eddy and the fitter (without doing the same full fit) thought that this could've been part Eddy's issue as a pro with the constant adjustement. i.e. he could never be 100% comfortable as he'd fix one side or the other, and hence the constant adjustment.


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    #73
    magicbastarder
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    i vaguely remember reading that merckx started doing that after his bad crash on the track?


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    #74
    magicbastarder
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    maybe because i keyed up 'a sunday in hell', youtube just suggested this to me.
    i wonder why they got what sounds like a liverpudlian to voice for merckx?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-zeW_tKlxQ


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    #75
    magicbastarder
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    there's a gitane rider at 19:07, no. 84, but generally has his back to the camera. and two more guys at 19:18, again with their backs to the camera.
    Heh, I just noticed that on the inside back of the book, hardback edition, that there's a facsimile of the list of each team and their members, from the race. Guess who's listed as rider number 84.


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    #76
    Wishbone Ash
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    Heh, I just noticed that on the inside back of the book, hardback edition, that there's a facsimile of the list of each team and their members, from the race. Guess who's listed as rider number 84.
    :eek::eek::eek:


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    #77
    Bambaata
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    who??


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    #78
    Wishbone Ash
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    Bambaata wrote: »
    who??
    Hinault


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    #79
    magicbastarder
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    Weepsie wrote: »
    This also popped up on my Facebook. Irish film from a few years later.

    that section for half a minute, starting at 16 minutes in, is a little weird.


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    Wishbone Ash
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    that section for half a minute, starting at 16 minutes in, is a little weird.
    Reminds me of those British psychedelic horror film of the late 60's/early 70's.


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    #81
    CramCycle
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    Wishbone Ash wrote: »
    Reminds me of those British psychedelic horror film of the late 60's/early 70's.
    I thought the same watching a Sunday in Hell without the English Voiceover. Like a trippy hammer horror. WF was saying the music was done with no input from the director at all and completely seperate from him, which I thought weird, he didn't even give an indication of where to go with it and reportedly would have preferred no music at all.

    I found this astonishing as i thought the music was a big part of the movie


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    #82
    Matt Bianco
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    As a postscript to the events, a donation of €525 was made to Pieta House which will help their service at a time of peak demand. Across both events, 330 attended the two showings which were a great opportunity for many to come together and see the movie how it was meant to be seen.

    A huge thanks is owed to to William, the committees of Dublin Wheelers and Sorrento Cycling Clubs and the broader cycling community for making this possible


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