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Sky Box Office fight night: September 22 AJ vs. AP

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    #182
    FTA69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    walshb wrote: »
    And AJs finish?

    Yeah I think we can all take it as read it was a good shot and good finish mate. He’s the real deal but some serious flaws. He fights who is in front of him and that’s all he can do, but the way he’s hyped over here is silly.

    I was very impressed with Povetkin, I wasn’t impressed with Joshua’s overall boxing.


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    #183
    titan18
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    taytobreath wrote:
    His coach tried to keep him down when he 1st got knocked down.


    Ya, saw that too. No idea what the coach was doing, he dragged him down.


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    #184
    sham69
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    Thank god it didn't go to the cards :)


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    #185
    walshb
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    Yeah I think we can all take it as read it was a good shot and good finish mate. He’s the real deal but some serious flaws. He fights who is in front of him and that’s all he can do, but the way he’s hyped over here is silly.

    I was very impressed with Povetkin, I wasn’t impressed with Joshua’s overall boxing.

    But he now has beaten two elites...

    Wlad and AP....

    Wilder and Fury are one step behind...


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    #186
    walshb
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    titan18 wrote: »
    Judge scores were stupid. Povetkin should have been ahead on those.

    No...several close rds...

    No issue with AJ getting several close rds...


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    #187
    brianregan09
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    I'd have Wilder and Fury ahead of both AP and Klitschko


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    #188
    jammiedodgers
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    titan18 wrote: »
    Judge scores were stupid. Povetkin should have been ahead on those.

    Some close rounds but I had Povetkin up by 1.
    59-55 AJ is a joke


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    #189
    walshb
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    Overall it was a decent performance against a dangerous and seasoned pro..

    He looked a bit lost at times. Bit clumsy. But his style is kind of stiff and robotic.

    The power is there and the ability to put together power combination is very good..


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    #190
    Too Tough To Die
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    walshb wrote: »
    But he now has beaten two elites...

    Wlad and AP....

    Wilder and Fury are one step behind...

    Lol, Povetkin is not elite, behave yourself.


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    #191
    Sprinter Sacre
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    Wilder doesn't have the same polish as Povektin but he is much longer and quicker, Povetkin landed a lot of leather early that seem to rattle Joshua. I don't think he expected Povetkin to go so hard so fast so it probably caught him off guard and he'd obviously be more fearful vs. Wilder but I can't help but feel Wilder buries him once he lands at all. Povetkin had as much joy with the right as his money left hook and we all know how stupidly overpowered Wilder's right is. It'll be a fun fun fight but it is likely Fury just f*cks everything up and UDs both of them and retires again.


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    #192
    FTA69
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    walshb wrote: »
    But he now has beaten two elites...

    Wlad and AP....

    Wilder and Fury are one step behind...

    Mate I’m not one of these people who rubbishes Joshua. As I said he’s a legitimate fighter and champion, but he’s one in a generally uninspiring era and has looked distinctly average at times against average opposition.

    If we’re being honest Klitschko at 31 would have blasted him out of it and a younger Povetkin would probably have turned him over. Absolutely no fault of his own he met the men late that having been said.

    What’s bugging me is the sky commentary completely ignoring the fact he was getting thumped handily before he rallied and pulled out his (brilliant) knockout.


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    #193
    walshb
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    Too Tough To Die wrote: »
    Lol, Povetkin is not elite, behave yourself.

    Ratings wise and career wise he is...

    If he is not then not Wilder and AJ are the only two.

    Fury not rated higher by any organization than Povetkin..


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    #194
    RicketyCricket
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    taytobreath wrote: »
    His coach tried to keep him down when he 1st got knocked down.

    that was the reason he tripped when he was trying to get back up

    I honestly missed that. He didnt look right when he got back to his feet though.


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    #195
    walshb
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    FTA69 wrote: »

    What’s bugging me is the sky commentary completely ignoring the fact he was getting thumped handily before he rallied and pulled out his (brilliant) knockout.

    Being thumped handily? He was not dominating but nor was AP

    It sound like you are saying AP was dominating...that is not true..


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    #196
    Morrison J
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    titan18 wrote: »
    Judge scores were stupid. Povetkin should have been ahead on those.
    Stupid but very predictable


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    #197
    walshb
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    Sprinter Sacre wrote: »
    but it is likely Fury just f*cks everything up and UDs both of them and retires again.

    More likely Bellew beats Usyk 120-108 than this...


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    #198
    Too Tough To Die
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    walshb wrote: »
    Ratings wise and career wise he is...

    If he is not then not Wilder and AJ are the only two.

    Fury not rated higher by any organization than Povetkin..

    Don't care about ratings.

    'Career wise', his best win is a KO against Takam. Same as Chisora's best win. Tell me what he's done in his career that marks him higher than Chisora.


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    #199
    walshb
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    Too Tough To Die wrote: »
    Don't care about ratings.

    'Career wise', his best win is a KO against Takam. Same as Chisora's best win. Tell me what he's done in his career that marks him higher than Chisora.

    You tell me who are elite HWs?

    Wilder because he beat Stiverne and Ortiz?

    Fury for his win over Wlad?

    AJ for his win over Wlad?

    See, none have star careers...

    AP is highly rated and has been for years...


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    #200
    Sprinter Sacre
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    walshb wrote: »
    More likely Bellew beats Usyk 120-108 than this...

    Last time I doubted Fury he ended up making Wlad look a little silly so I dunno. Although Wilder should batter Fury if the Fury of the last two fights is the actual extent of his abilities now.


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    #201
    Cyrus
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    walshb wrote: »
    More likely Bellew beats Usyk 120-108 than this...

    It’s really not


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    #202
    walshb
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    Sky, quit the crap...it’s AJ/Whyte II in April.


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    #203
    walshb
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    Cyrus wrote: »
    It’s really not

    Ah, you’re back...

    Not long now, hopefully until Wilder/Fury...

    Don’t you go disappearing on me..


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    #204
    FTA69
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    walshb wrote: »
    Being thumped handily? He was not dominating but nor was AP

    It sound like you are saying AP was dominating...that is not true..

    He was up on my cards anyway and landing the more power shots. Joshua wasn’t offering a lot bar the odd jab to the body. All credit to the fella, I’d say he’ll beat Wilder and lose to Fury if the latter is fit physically and mentally.


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    #205
    Sprinter Sacre
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    Povetkin vs Ortiz would be a good fight and one both would probably like to have to get themselves back into the fray.


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    #206
    Joeseph Balls
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    walshb wrote: »
    Sky, quit the crap...it’s AJ/Whyte II in April.

    Probably, easy for AJ, I feel he has improved since their first fight, and he can prolong the wilder fight some more.


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    #207
    Too Tough To Die
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    walshb wrote: »
    You tell me who are elite HWs?

    Wilder because he beat Stiverne and Ortiz?

    Fury for his win over Wlad?

    AJ for his win over Wlad?

    See, none have star careers...

    AP is highly rated and has been for years...

    Highly rated and elite are not the same though, are they? I think you need some big wins to be considered elite, so on that basis, only AJ and Fury have a claim. Povetkin has done little. He was in trouble against Price and Huck - a cruiserweight.


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    #208
    Joeseph Balls
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    Sprinter Sacre wrote: »
    Povetkin vs Ortiz would be a good fight and one both would probably like to have to get themselves back into the fray.

    Povetkin is out of the fray at 39 I think


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    #209
    walshb
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    Joeseph Balls wrote: »
    Probably, easy for AJ, I feel he has improved since their first fight, and he can prolong the wilder fight some more.

    Funny. I was thinking about that. Kind of thinking that he was more dangerous and offensively lethal in that Whyte fight than fights after. That Whyte fight was brilliant..

    I’d possibly give Whyte a better chance now...


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    #210
    normanoffside
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    Sprinter Sacre wrote: »
    Povetkin vs Ortiz would be a good fight and one both would probably like to have to get themselves back into the fray.

    Povetkin is now out of the picture tbh...


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    #211
    walshb
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    Too Tough To Die wrote: »
    Highly rated and elite are not the same though, are they? I think you need some big wins to be considered elite, so on that basis, only AJ and Fury have a claim. Povetkin has done little. He was in trouble against Price and Huck - a cruiserweight.

    Well, if we are hanging the term elite off one man, Wlad, then yes only AJ and Fury are elite...

    I am removing Fury due to him doing nothing the past three years, as well as being a drugs cheat and looking very average his last two fights..

    So, we down to one?


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