Toddler suddenly terrified of bath

Digs

As the title suggests! My daughter was 2 at the end of June. Total water baby up until about two weeks ago. When the bath is mentioned now she runs away and screams and cries and says “No bath Mammy”. Nothing has changed in her routine, we bath her and her older sister every Wednesday and Saturday and she always loved it. Now when she gets in she goes so rigid I couldn’t get her to sit down if I tried, she shakes with terror and screams and begs me to take her out. I’m pregnant so my emotions are delicate enough but I’m in tears I feel so bad for her.

Please someone tell me it’s a phase that passes?? It didn’t happen with my older daughter. I can’t not wash her though

bee06

Would she go in the shower instead?

Digs

bee06 wrote: »

Would she go in the shower instead?

That had crossed our minds but our shower is one of those that’s in the bath so as soon as she goes near it she freaks. I will try her on Wednesday properly with it!

catrionanic

Could you stick her in the kitchen sink for a mini, less scary bath? My wee man is a bit younger but we still use the sink (we don't have a bath). Tight squeeze but doable.

TBH, I'd want to know what turned her off.

iamwhoiam

Could it have been too hot at some stage ? Could you try putting her baby bath in the bath and try to reassure her back in slowely ? She might have got a fright at some stage

Digs

I’ll try the sink thanks Catrionac, at least then I could figure out if it’s the bath itself or the water!

Lorenzo - that’s what we’re trying to figure out. She’s 2, she can’t tell us.

Iamwhoiam- I’m wondering about heat! Generally though the older girl who’s 5 would let us know if you get me.

She has had a pretty bad case of constipation recently which we’re trying to sort with medication etc she hates getting her nappy changed as a result so I’m wondering if it’s having the bath water on her bum?!! She has zero bother watching her sister in the bath or giving her doll a bath herself.

iamwhoiam

Digs wrote: »

I’ll try the sink thanks Catrionac, at least then I could figure out if it’s the bath itself or the water!

Lorenzo - that’s what we’re trying to figure out. She’s 2, she can’t tell us.

Iamwhoiam- I’m wondering about heat! Generally though the older girl who’s 5 would let us know if you get me.

She has had a pretty bad case of constipation recently which we’re trying to sort with medication etc she hates getting her nappy changed as a result so I’m wondering if it’s having the bath water on her bum?!! She has zero bother watching her sister in the bath or giving her doll a bath herself.

Just put a dribble of water in and promise her she doesn't have to sit down . Tell her she only has to wash her feet for now ! slowly slowly then another inch etc . Poor baba sounds like she is frightened

mirrorwall14

Can one of you hop in with her? Do full on swimsuits and make it like a visit to the beach etc?

AvonEnniskerry

At 2 they are big enough to reason with. So I'd sit her down and explain why baths and washing are important. In as simple a way as possible. If she's got a sore bum stick a bit of bread soda or porridge in the bath. Invest in a few colourful bath bombs from lush. They can be perfect for young skin also while creating a fun environment. Maybe some new bath toys and she'll be back in in no time. Best of luck op.

ainy

We went through this with our daughter from about 2 and half until she was over 3. She wasn't toilet trained but I actually think looking back that it all started when she started to know the feeling of wee and poo and she was frightened of doing them in the bath. (We didn't realise at the time and so had lots and lots of battles over bath time).

As soon as she was toilet trained bath time was back to normal. Maybe it was just coincidence, I'm not sure.

Digs

It’s totally rotten watching her, I feel so sorry for her. The constipation caused a little haemorrhoid over a week ago which now thankfully has disappeared but now I’m writing it out it makes total sense that she wouldn’t want anything near her bum. Hence the upset when getting her nappy changed. I’ll try the patient step by step toe in approach and see how we go.

Mirrorwall I would happily get in with her if it settles her, I’ll add that to the list! She does have her sister in with her but maybe she’d rather me or her Dad. She was absolutely clinging to him tonight when he tried putting her in and we were trying to tell her she’d be ok etc but she wasn’t having a bar of it.

catrionanic

If she's very constipated, could it be sitting on the hard surface of the bath putting painful pressure on her?

Digs

Avon - I do try to explain it to her gently but she’s beyond upset about it so I can’t really reason with her. The toys are probably a very good idea though so will definitley try some thank you!

Ainy - I’m kind of relieved to hear we’re not alone and glad to hear it past for you! I’m beginning to get convinced it’s connected to wee and poo etc she’s so clued in with the toilet and what happens which is probably down to watching her sister but the constipation has brought a whole set of problems with that.

mirrorwall14

Digs wrote: »

It’s totally rotten watching her, I feel so sorry for her. The constipation caused a little haemorrhoid over a week ago which now thankfully has disappeared but now I’m writing it out it makes total sense that she wouldn’t want anything near her bum. Hence the upset when getting her nappy changed. I’ll try the patient step by step toe in approach and see how we go.

Mirrorwall I would happily get in with her if it settles her, I’ll add that to the list! She does have her sister in with her but maybe she’d rather me or her Dad. She was absolutely clinging to him tonight when he tried putting her in and we were trying to tell her she’d be ok etc but she wasn’t having a bar of it.

We had him sit on my legs for a while and wash his toes. Eventually he got brave enough to go back in but at least it was easier to wash him with a face cloth when he was over the bath! Oddly enough showers turned out to be no issue. We hadn’t copped but he just associated them with the swimming pool and was happy enough albeit that he would soak the bathroom!

Digs

catrionanic wrote: »

If she's very constipated, could it be sitting on the hard surface of the bath putting painful pressure on her?

I think it must be!! Although at the moment she’s not constipated but had a very very bad episode about two weeks ago. She didn’t go for 7 days and then had a few very very sore massive poos which hurt her so it must be connected. The night it started she got in the bath no problem and after a very short while had to be taken out she got so upset

Digs

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

We had him sit on my legs for a while and wash his toes. Eventually he got brave enough to go back in but at least it was easier to wash him with a face cloth when he was over the bath! Oddly enough showers turned out to be no issue. We hadn’t copped but he just associated them with the swimming pool and was happy enough albeit that he would soak the bathroom!

Ah interesting!! Did it just come out of the blue for your son? It’s like a switch went off in her but if her bum is sore I suppose it makes sense.
I’ll see how she goes with the shower. I’ll try brig her in with me in the morning, the logistics of which with a bump will be interesting

iamwhoiam

Could you buy a soft piece of foam and let her sit on it in the bath ? Like a soft sponge type thingy ? Or even a big soft teddy to sit on?
And slather her bum with Vaseline before she gets in too

ainy

Digs wrote:

Ainy - I’m kind of relieved to hear we’re not alone and glad to hear it past for you! I’m beginning to get convinced it’s connected to wee and poo etc she’s so clued in with the toilet and what happens which is probably down to watching her sister but the constipation has brought a whole set of problems with that.

Our girl was constipated too and would get sore bum from it aswell, there wasn't anything we did that helped bath time, she couldnt explain why she didnt like it anymore or what was upsetting her. It had to be done though but it was so distressing for all of us (I was also pregnant at the time!). it was only when she worked through the toilet training that it got better. She was only trained after she was 3.

Digs

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Could you buy a soft piece of foam and let her sit on it in the bath ? Like a soft sponge type thingy ?

I could try an old cushion or something? I fear it’s getting her to trust it’s ok that might be the issue. She locks her legs completely and just will not sit down. I’ll try anything though!

iamwhoiam

Digs wrote: »

I could try an old cushion or something? I fear it’s getting her to trust it’s ok that might be the issue. She locks her legs completely and just will not sit down. I’ll try anything though!

Let her buy a big sloppy soft teddy maybe ?

Digs

ainy wrote: »

Our girl was constipated too and would get sore bum from it aswell, there wasn't anything we did that helped bath time, she couldnt explain why she didnt like it anymore or what was upsetting her. It had to be done though but it was so distressing for all of us (I was also pregnant at the time!). it was only when she worked through the toilet training that it got better. She was only trained after she was 3.

Ok that totally makes sense. It must be connected the poor chick. So distressing, she’s pleading with us as best as she can communicate to take her out. Her sister was trained at 2yr 4 mths with ease and while I actually think she is more clued in then her sister was at this stage re poo/wee and toilet etc I feel like she is a million miles away from training because of the constipation so we’re totally going to leave her be until we can get her medication and routine sorted etc.
Thanks so much Ainy. Sometimes it’s best to just know there’s no fix and it just has to work itself out!

Digs

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Let her buy a big sloppy soft teddy maybe ?

We were encouraging her to take her ted in with her tonight and no dice!! Ted went in but she refused.

namenotavailablE

Possibly also worth checking if there's a rash/ raw patch/ blistered patch on her bottom which is being aggravated by contact with water. If yes, a few days of Sudocrem or equivalent might be the trick to remove the pain!

mirrorwall14

Digs wrote: »

Ah interesting!! Did it just come out of the blue for your son? It’s like a switch went off in her but if her bum is sore I suppose it makes sense.
I’ll see how she goes with the shower. I’ll try brig her in with me in the morning, the logistics of which with a bump will be interesting

I can’t remember to be honest, I just know he went from being happy in the bath to being unhappy!

Digs

namenotavailabl wrote: »

Possibly also worth checking if there's a rash/ raw patch/ blistered patch on her bottom which is being aggravated by contact with water. If yes, a few days of Sudocrem or equivalent might be the trick to remove the pain!

This is concerning me actually. I tried to get a look at her bum afterwards and it’s a bit red, she’s not too happy being inspected though. I had to use microlax ennemas last week so I think she’s afraid. I’m bringing her back to the GP Monday re the constipation so will ask her to check there isn’t a fissure there or something after her having such a hard time of it.

She was referred to Crumlin re the constipation (which is more or less going on since birth!) and they’ve refused to see her stating its “normal” and advising on certain meds which the GP had tried. So frustrating for us, not to mention her, poor kiddo.

coffeyt

Also went through this with my son at a slightly younger age, for no apparent reason he became terrified and would cling to me when he saw the bath.
I did the whole sitting in the bath with him on my chest for a while and he would stand in the water but like that his legs would go rigid if any hint of me trying to get him to sit.
I just let him stand and play with his bath toys and washed him with sponge and after a few weeks he slowly starting coming round to kneeling and eventually sitting back down. I also got a few squirt toys and would let him squirt me and I'd squirt him and just have fun so that he eventually just seemed to forget about whatever had caused the problem initially.
I would say maybe if she is happy to stand in it then just sponge her down and let her play away and let her build her confidence back so she can overcome whatever is frightening her.

iamwhoiam

Have you ever tried her on a lactose free diet ? Kids with a lactose intolerance are often prone to constipation ?

shesty

How is she with fruit Digs? Can you load her up with every fruit you can find during the day, to be sure? Also stewed rhubarb and apple, with brown sugar work an absolute treat. We have one here who is not a water drinker - has never been a water drinker - getting liquid into her during the day is a nightmare, so we tend to hand out lots of raspberries, grapes, oranges that kind of thing too.Thankfully she loves fruit - would live on it given the chance....
She may have a little cut or something that the water is stinging. I have no suggestions, other than maybe getting in with her though. We did have awful issues around the bath for a few weeks with no.1, closer to 3, but I think that was more of a thing where she was trying to assert some independence. Bit of a nightmare.

Digs

Coffeyt- I think that approach is best for now thanks. She’s certainly not happy to just stand in it at the moment and we’ve had to wash her under duress but if I get in with her maybe it will gradually encourage her to even try sitting.

Iamwhoiam- funny you mention lactose. The pharmacist said the same to me last week. She had the same issues with her son and once she took him off dairy he was fine. She still gets one bottle at bedtime so I’ve bought lactose free milk and she’s had that the last two nights. My eldest was dairy free up until this summer, it actually had the opposite effect on her and it ran though her as a result neither girl has had yoghurts, cheese etc as I haven’t had them in the house because of the older girl. We’ve been reintroducing dairy to the older girl using the pyramid etc and she finally seems to be tolerating it. So I’m not too sure if it is dairy with the youngest lady but I’ll try the milk switch etc I really appreciate all the suggestions, thanks so much! I’ve found this whole thing so upsetting. She is so so good humoured when she has every right to be fed up because her tummy must be at her, it’s miserable when she finally is able to do a poo.

Digs

Shesty her appetite is a bit poor recently. I’m not sure if it’s connected to her tummy being off. I have been absolutely loading her with fruits for the last few weeks!! Berries in particular, kiwis, flaxseed on her porridge, every root vegetable I can think of with dinner. Sometimes she’ll Wolf it all and others point blank refuse. This morning there was a yuck at the kiwi which she had previously loved!
One saving grace is she loves water, no problems there at all!! She doesn’t like any sort of fruit juice though so that’s why we had a problem with giving her paediatric movical. She could taste it in her water so refused but wouldn’t drink juice which would mask the taste!!

I’ve actually been so stressed out trying to figure the whole thing out. I was so upset when Crumlin wouldn’t see her. I feel like it’s going on so long now we need a bit of help rather then just being left for her to “grow out of it!!”. It’s getting worse as she becomes more aware. Previously she would just go days without a poo and then eventually get it done whereas now they’re getting bigger and she gets very upset doing one

Lemonposset

We had this with no.2 at about 1.5 years old. He got a quick bath every night and then one night out of the blue became hysterical, there was no obvious trigger. His brother was in the bath too so not too hot etc. Took a few weeks of constant reassurance and letting him stand, usually clinging to us. We did persist with the baths but let him take it at his own pace until he seemed to get over whatever had set him off. He's totally back to normal now, throwing water all over his face, and me!

Toots

Digs wrote: »

This is concerning me actually. I tried to get a look at her bum afterwards and it’s a bit red, she’s not too happy being inspected though. I had to use microlax ennemas last week so I think she’s afraid. I’m bringing her back to the GP Monday re the constipation so will ask her to check there isn’t a fissure there or something after her having such a hard time of it.

She was referred to Crumlin re the constipation (which is more or less going on since birth!) and they’ve refused to see her stating its “normal” and advising on certain meds which the GP had tried. So frustrating for us, not to mention her, poor kiddo.

If it's bad enough that you needed microlax then she could very well have a little fissure in the skin in her anus. My son had the same at age 6 and as soon as the water touched it he nearly hit the roof, it stung so much. We basically had to do sponge baths until it was better.

Digs

Toots wrote: »

If it's bad enough that you needed microlax then she could very well have a little fissure in the skin in her anus. My son had the same at age 6 and as soon as the water touched it he nearly hit the roof, it stung so much. We basically had to do sponge baths until it was better.

Oh god I feel totally crappy now, she must be really scared of it hurting I didn’t twig it at the time. I used microlax after the bath issue started but it was because she hadn’t gone in 7 days after a particularly bad poo (the one that caused the haemorrhoid) so between the bath and getting upset at having her nappy changed she must be sore.

Lemonposset- thank you! Whatever the trigger is it is a relief to know others have experienced the same and time and patience might resolve it.

iamwhoiam

Don't despair . You know your little girl best and have her back . It is definitely worth trying lactose free for a while
Some kids get diarrhoea from it but a good percentage get constipation .
A fissure can be so stingy and sore so you might need to consider it as her trigger .
If you know anyone going to UK or NI try to get Metanium cream . It is a wonderful nappy area healer .

Digs

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Don't despair . You know your little girl best and have her back . It is definitely worth trying lactose free for a while
Some kids get diarrhoea from it but a good percentage get constipation .
A fissure can be so stingy and sore so you might need to consider it as her trigger .
If you know anyone going to UK or NI try to get Metanium cream . It is a wonderful nappy area healer .

Thanks so much! I’ll try source that cream and commit to the lactose free and see what happens. It has to be one of the most frustrating aspects of parenting, not being able to figure things like this out for them. Really appreciate the suggestions!

shesty

Digs, I know someone who visited a reflexologist as their child had a very severe problem with some unidentified food allergy causing terrible rashes, almost to the point of them being gangrenous or going septic (seriously).I am not sure what was done but they discovered to source of the issue and removed it from the diet for a year.If you're not 100% sure on the lactose (although if your eldest had it, it would probably be likely, wouldn't it??), maybe something like that is a route to consider???

Neyite

Have you a basin? Fill that in the bath, let her stand in it and sponge her down with a soft sponge. She'll be clean enough with that, she's only two. Having the fear after soreness takes some time for them to get over.

When the fear fades a bit, you can gradually add a bit of water to the bath or let her hold the shower hose to do her hair

Digs

We tried the baby bath in the bath last night and no difference unfortunately. She just ended up washing her dolls in it.

Returned to the doctor this morning who confirmed she has a fissure and gave me cream for it. She said she’s not a bit surprised about the bath so at least we know that’s what it is. Back on movical. She explained as she’s had ongoing constipation for so long her bowel is stretched now so she can hold it longer thus creating a vicious circle of constipation. So she needs to be on the movical to make her go more regularly and shrink it back down.

We’re going to keep her a part of the normal bath routine Wednesday and Saturday. Encourage her to get in and continue to just sponge her down quickly as we have been doing. I’ve been quickly doing her hair every other bath. I’m not so much concerned about her getting a good wash as I am in keeping a good relationship with bathtime open so we’re aware now it’ll just take time and a lot of patience which is totally fine. I’m having a bath tonight myself so I’ll encourage her to hop in with me.

Shesty - that poor kid, omg!! Totally interested in holistic though so thanks for the recommendation. The movical will fix the problem but I’d rather get to the root of it

Thanks all for the replies and suggestions!

Neyite

Digs, when the movicol starts working and then a poo chart for her can make it a bit more fun and helps remind her that the one the day before didn't hurt and not to withhold and so on. There's a few books - "poo goes to pooland" is one I know of.

We found that us parents would be on top of it for a few weeks but then we would forget to check with each other when the last movement was so would end up being already a few days back into constipation again. We have a whiteboard where we draw a poo emoji on the days but I'm sure you could get poo emoji stickers. It's a visual prompt for us so I know if he's not done one in the morning (im gone before he wakes up) then I get him up stairs to try in the evening. Our lad wont do a poo in school or at the childminders. It has to be one specific toilet in our house that he goes to and that's what was leading to him holding it in and getting backed up.

You'll find there's one food or drink that works well in stimulating the bowel. Orange juice works in our house. Smoothies are a good way of getting fruit and fibre into them but be wary that fruit juices on her fissure might sting until that's healed.

It's surprisingly common. Our creche worker said that pretty much all toddlers go through constipation to some degree when they start potty training so be aware that it might rear up for you again down the line when she's coming out of nappies for you.

Digs

The poo chart is a great idea thanks Neyite, she's definitely at the stage where involvement with something like that would appeal to her. There is great excitment in the house when a poo is done, everyone clapping and screehing like lunatics!! I actually have a log of every single poo she has done since 9th March on my phone :eek: it is a very short list unfortunately but I wanted to have it to keep a record of things. This is ongoing since she was 2 weeks old and a breastfed baby at that so it was unusual. Which is why we (and the GP) are quite frustrated Crumlin wouldn't see her, to rule out even a tiny possibilty of something physiological going on. So the GP has referred her to Tallaght to see if they're any better.

Over the course of two years we've had brief periods where something foodwise seems to work (very briefly) and then it stops. Until recently she would literally just go days in between poos but would grunt and get it done whereas in recent weeks she gets very upset as it's clearly sore. I also don't think she's actually withholding, she's certainly afraid in recent weeks but what the GP said about her bowel being stretched makes sense, she just doesn't get the urge to go that often. When she does now it's huge I definitely think potty training is going to be an issue for her. There have been times where we have literally had to hold her bum cheeks back in an effort to help her get the poo out.....and who said parenting wasn't glam?

I genuinely do feel like I've tried every food, fruit, seed, juice etc under the sun since we've weaned her. Adding stuff, removing stuff, it's quite exhausting and the guilt and pressure I've felt that it is something I'm either giving her or not giving and can't figure out drives me nuts. Movicol was a disaster last time as she won't drink juice of any kind and could taste it in her water so refused but I'm just going to have to try and persevere this time. One thing I've never given them is the ribena type juices so if needs be I'll try her with those.

Neyite

Forgot another tip: getting her to blow bubbles when she needs to do a bowel movement. Something to do with the action of exhaling helps the sphincter muscles relax I think.



But it's a great distraction for a kid that age as well.

mirrorwall14

Oh and you are probably doing it but heels up on the toilet seat makes it easier to poop for my lad. I used to use his step stool like a squatty potty and he copied but couldn’t reach the stool lol

will56

Digs wrote: »

Thanks so much! I’ll try source that cream and commit to the lactose free and see what happens. It has to be one of the most frustrating aspects of parenting, not being able to figure things like this out for them. Really appreciate the suggestions!

The cream is available online, we ordered it from Amazon for our DD when she had bad nappy rash. Clears it up in a couple of days, really is amazing stuff

shesty

Digs, I actually know a number of BF babies who normally wouldn't poo for anything up three weeks!!!My own youngest would be one I'd say, only he had a bottle every evening....it all came out during the bottle.It's a lot more common than you realise but obviously at toddler stage it is a problem.Here's hoping you get some sort of answer soon.

ChewChew

Digs, we had similar here. I feel for you all as it's quiet tough and hard not to feel guilty. I have some metanium cream here, I can post you some if you wish, it's no trouble!!
Movicol is still working for us and we've not had any difficulty and the bath is back on track as being a favourite (She also went through a hating stage). Would she go in the bath with a pair of knickers on or even a swimming pool nappy??

GreeBo

Can you just use baby wipes to keep her clean until the fissure is healed, if you remove the whole idea of a bath for her for a couple of weeks she might just forget all about the pain, whereas if you keep trying it will keep reinforcing it.

Just wipe her down while the other one is in the bath and she might actually want to get in and play after a few weeks anyway.

For the constipation getting her to lie on her back while you bicycle her legs can help to get things moving also (similar to squatting)
Our little one suffers a bit and I find that bringing her feet up to her face helps her to "bear down" a bit and usually gets things moving.

best of luck!

Digs

ChewChew wrote: »

Digs, we had similar here. I feel for you all as it's quiet tough and hard not to feel guilty. I have some metanium cream here, I can post you some if you wish, it's no trouble!!
Movicol is still working for us and we've not had any difficulty and the bath is back on track as being a favourite (She also went through a hating stage). Would she go in the bath with a pair of knickers on or even a swimming pool nappy??

That is seriously kind of you thanks a million, I managed to source some and my sister in law is picking it up for me though so I should have it tomorrow! I really am comforted to hear you have a handle on your little ones problem so thanks for sharing. Do you mind me asking how you managed to get her to take the movicol in the first place or is my lady just being difficult? I didn't think of putting her in even in her nappy! She doesn't like her nappy coming off since the fissure appeared, even for a wee change, I think she's afraid of her bum being wiped full stop so maybe having something on her bum going in might calm her.

GreeBo wrote: »

Can you just use baby wipes to keep her clean until the fissure is healed, if you remove the whole idea of a bath for her for a couple of weeks she might just forget all about the pain, whereas if you keep trying it will keep reinforcing it.

Just wipe her down while the other one is in the bath and she might actually want to get in and play after a few weeks anyway.

For the constipation getting her to lie on her back while you bicycle her legs can help to get things moving also (similar to squatting)
Our little one suffers a bit and I find that bringing her feet up to her face helps her to "bear down" a bit and usually gets things moving.

best of luck!

Thank you! When she does get the urge to go this is what we have to do, she manages somehow to get the main bit out but it's so big we have to take the nappy off and pull her legs up so she can get it all out (sorry!!!). Our main issue is increasing the frequency so she is going more often and not holding onto so much of it to get rid of at one time. Hopefully the movicol will sort that out.

Lemonposset

Metanium is the business, we get some at every opportunity, why is it not available in Ireland! I've only ever used it for nappy rash but it's like magic. Just in case you don't know, it stings when it goes on first so your daughter may not appreciate it initially. You only need a tiny bit, a whole tube lasts us forever. It stains horribly so be careful what you let her sit on after!

Digs

My husband hopped in in his trunks last night with them (easier for him then me with the bump!!). She did the usual beforehand, screamed the house down, ran away from us etc
Once she got in with him and sat on his lap (we made sure her bum was touching the water) she realised it didn’t hurt and completely calmed down. Washed her dolls and tolerated it for about 5-10 mins before demanding to get out! So hopefully it’ll just be a case of being patient and she’ll gradually get more comfortable with it. It was an enormous improvement on the previous few weeks though.

The movicol is starting to work and she’s due back to the doctor in a month so hopefully we’re on the right path. Thanks to everyone for your advice!

TheValeyard

Hey OP,

I had this until very recently.


Baths were fun and games, then all of a sudden it turned into WW3 one night.

Tried showers, tried sink, nothing worked.

What we did was was him next to the bath with his water toys in reach. Kinda like a quick wet wash standing on towels. He puts hands in the water, played with toys, bubbles etc. While we washed him with cloth.


Did this for couple of weeks and eventually he just got back into the bath.