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Correlation between 5K ,10K, HM and Marathon times
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TFBubendorfer wrote: »That's the nature of racing, isn't it?
I've run approximately 250 races to date and can name exactly 3 where I think I got the optimum out of myself, when I managed to pace it well and arrived at the finish line just about at the point of collapse. One was a 5k, one a marathon, one a 24 hours race, so basically covering the entire spectrum of distance running.
In shorter races I just don't seem to have the desire to push myself to the limit; in longer races the difference between just right and too fast is so fine it's very hard to get it right.
This desire is something one could argue that you both a) need to want to do and b) need to train to do
This was more the point I was making rather than the times of races click. The training specific aspect is not just about pace it is also about pain management.
FWIW my times across the distances
5k - 16.15
5m - 26.35
10k - 34.10
10m - 56.54
HM - 1.14.48
Mar - 2.43.03 (1st marathon and a learning experience on correlation
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MrMacPhisto wrote: »Well, 'Phisto, as well as mangling the poor bleedin' table, I'd like to point out that it's out of date!! That Itziger fella is now Half 1.21.06 and Full 2.59.10 (For those who point out that the full is poor, A) I know and
it was done after the 2.59) And C) I'm not too good at 42k
Ah sure it gives lots of data points and lets ya see how much better or worse you are now.... Is that the 'downhill' half time?
I need to run a ten mile race, thats an old one.
It bloody well is not. I'll post that one later. Twice dipping under 1.20 m8 on that one. (It's short as well as downhill!!) The second time I ran it, I went out too fast and died towards the end - last 8k or so :O As I was approaching the finishing chute, about 4 foot wide, I see a couple finishing the 10k hand in hand. I knew if I didn't pass 'em before the finishing chute the sub 80 was gone. Had to flippin' sprint for 50 metres to beat 'em to the narrow finish. Of course the crowd, such as it was, was cheering the happy couple and couldn't give a toss about my epic effort. There's no justice in this running gig.0 -
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Name|5k|5m|10k|10m|HM|Mara|Note
McMillan|18:28|30:28|38:22|1:04:07|1:25:32|3:00:00|Ref Times
TbL |19:27|31:xx|39:30|1:04:xx|1:25:xx|3:05:xx|
FBOT|17:42|29:59|38:42|1:00:34|1:26:02|3:00:59|
AMK|17:38|29:13|37:40|1:02:30|1:27:xx|3:00:36|
Tomwaits48|19:17|32:00|39:xx|1:05:45|1:28:xx|3:17:xx|
Duanington|17:35|29:17|36:36|1:01:42|1:23:22|3:03:xx|
MrMacPhisto|17:02|28:35|35:44|1:01:55|1:19:35|2:47:17|
snailsong|19:06|31:49|39:11|N/A|1:28:20|3:06:52|
rooneyjm|19:35|N/A|39:20|1:08:xx|1:29:37|3:23:xx|
davedanon|18:34|31:34|39:51|1:06:21|1:30:30|3:14:18|
Itziger|17:50|29:52|36:48|N/A|1:21:06|2:59:10|
Sandwell|17:24|28:57|37:10|0:59:29|1:22:xx|N/A|
Tomred1N |19:01|32:25|41:40|1:05:57|1:28:30|3:12:41|
Ainsyjnr |18:32|30:07|36:50|1:02:24|1:24:04|3:01:46|
Averagejoe123|17:47|30:26|38:41|1:04:45|1:27:xx|3:17:xx|
Kemboi|18:00|29:50|38:00|1:05:50|1:25:30|3:07:xx|
CR 7|17:45|30:30|37:21|1:04:50|1:23:25|5:04:xx|
El Caballo|18:34|31:15|39:46|1:05:xx|1:26:26|3:15:29|
Bulmers74|18:54|31:46|39:33|1:06:00|1:26:27|3:08:36|
boydkev|18:55|32:10|41.12|1:05:55|1:28:20|3:31:35|
ger664|19:45|N/A|41:11|1:09:33|1:35:56|3:18:12|
Jahaco|19:22|31:08|39:07|1:04:19|1:26:23|3:03:19|
Murph_D|19:48|33:53|43:19|1:11:33|1:34:17|3:22:11|
Singer|18:39|31:47|38:55|1:06:12|1:27:33|3:14:11|
BeepBeep67|16:52|28:24|36:00|0:59:45|1:19:55|2:55:51|
Classic21|18:45|n/a|38:45|1:06:15|1:23:40|3:16:50|
hot buttered scones|19:17|n/a|40:37|1:04:46|1:26:37|3:09:13|
HelenAnne|20:08|33:52|43:24|n/a|n/a|n/a|
Testosterscone|16:15|26:35|34:10|56:54|1:14:48|2:43:03|
Squinn2912|n/a|n/a|37:54|n/a|1:23:12|2:58:13|
Healy1835|18:52|29:51|38:56|1:00:33|1:19:59|2:59:45|
SlowTwitch|19:00|31:08|39:31|1:05:09|1:26:00|3:00:22|BetterLongDist
MediumTwitch|18:40|30:40|39:01|1:04:31|1:26:13|2:59:46|BetterMedDist
FastTwitch|18:22|30:16|38:34|1:03:57|1:25:45|2:59:36|BetterShortDist
Adding in my own and the last couple of posters. 10Mile and Half are from this current training block. Shorter distances haven't been raced too regularly. Not running a spring marathon so hoping to move a bit closer to some of these equivalent times after DCM, which I also hope to move closer in line to the 10Mile and Half
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shotgunmcos wrote: »All from 2011/2012
Now that I've emerged from a dark age do any new pbs that are not beating "old" pbs count as new age pbs or what? Hard to motivate oneself if looking back on times you did in a different life!
yeah, but you have spent a few years splashing about and getting lost on hills. A bit of real training should see you beat all those times 0 -
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Yay, tables... my favourite.
Name|5k|5m|10k|10m|HM|Mara|Note
McMillan|18:28|30:28|38:22|1:04:07|1:25:32|3:00:00|Ref Times
TbL |19:27|31:xx|39:30|1:04:xx|1:25:xx|3:05:xx|
FBOT|17:42|29:59|38:42|1:00:34|1:26:02|3:00:59|
AMK|17:28|28:53|36:09|1:01:40|1:23:53|2:58:01|
Tomwaits48|19:17|32:00|39:xx|1:05:45|1:28:xx|3:17:xx|
Duanington|17:35|29:17|36:36|1:01:42|1:23:22|3:03:xx|
MrMacPhisto|17:02|28:35|35:44|1:01:55|1:19:35|2:47:17|
snailsong|19:06|31:49|39:11|N/A|1:28:20|3:06:52|
rooneyjm|19:35|N/A|39:20|1:08:xx|1:29:37|3:23:xx|
davedanon|18:34|31:34|39:51|1:06:21|1:30:30|3:14:18|
Itziger|17:50|29:52|36:48|N/A|1:21:06|2:59:10|
Sandwell|17:24|28:57|37:10|0:59:29|1:22:xx|N/A|
Tomred1N |19:01|32:25|41:40|1:05:57|1:28:30|3:12:41|
Ainsyjnr |18:32|30:07|36:50|1:02:24|1:24:04|3:01:46|
Averagejoe123|17:47|30:26|38:41|1:04:45|1:27:xx|3:17:xx|
Kemboi|18:00|29:50|38:00|1:05:50|1:25:30|3:07:xx|
CR 7|17:45|30:30|37:21|1:04:50|1:23:25|5:04:xx|
Shotgunmcos|18:15|30:10|38:09|1:02:24|1:23:40|3:00:20
El Caballo|18:34|31:15|39:46|1:05:xx|1:26:26|3:15:29|
Bulmers74|18:54|31:46|39:33|1:06:00|1:26:27|3:08:36|
boydkev|18:55|32:10|41.12|1:05:55|1:28:20|3:31:35|
ger664|19:45|N/A|41:11|1:09:33|1:35:56|3:18:12|
Jahaco|19:22|31:08|39:07|1:04:19|1:26:23|3:03:19|
Murph_D|19:48|33:53|43:19|1:11:33|1:34:17|3:22:11|
Singer|18:39|31:47|38:55|1:06:12|1:27:33|3:14:11|
BeepBeep67|16:52|28:24|36:00|0:59:45|1:19:55|2:55:51|
Classic21|18:45|n/a|38:45|1:06:15|1:23:40|3:16:50|
hot buttered scones|19:17|n/a|40:37|1:04:46|1:26:37|3:09:13|
HelenAnne|20:08|33:52|43:24|n/a|n/a|n/a|
Testosterscone|16:15|26:35|34:10|0:56:54|1:14:48|2:43:03|
Squinn2912|n/a|n/a|37:54|n/a|1:23:12|2:58:13|
Healy1835|18:52|29:51|38:56|1:00:33|1:19:59|2:59:45|
OOnegative|18.25|n/a|38.46|64.19|1.26.11|3.15.10
Average_runner|19.38|33:00|42:07|73:20|1:39:26|3:41:30|
SlowTwitch|19:00|31:08|39:31|1:05:09|1:26:00|3:00:22|BetterLongDist
MediumTwitch|18:40|30:40|39:01|1:04:31|1:26:13|2:59:46|BetterMedDist
FastTwitch|18:22|30:16|38:34|1:03:57|1:25:45|2:59:36|BetterShortDist
robinph|17:11|27:56|35:13|0:59:48|1:19:11|2:49:44|
They are all from a few years ago now, and I'm dubious about the timing system used for the 10km. Not sure I can get near any of them at the moment as I just don't have the speed any more, the marathon I do plan on nibbling away a bit more of though if all goes to plan in April next year.0
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