Formula 1 2018 - Round 16 – Russia

Harika

Russia, back in Kyvat country where the Russian torpedo is not missed by Vettel as he needs to win to stay in the chase, and hope for someone else to torpedo Hamilton.

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All sessions on Sky F1 and the Online Service
Friday September 28 Free Practice 1, 9:00-10:30
Friday September 28, FP2, 13:00-14:30
Saturday September 29, FP3, 10:00-11:00
Saturday September 29, Qualifying, 13:00-14:00
Sunday September 30, Race, 12:10-14:10

Predictions:
Vettel win
Kyvat getting announced
Snorefest
DoubleHaaspoints finish

flazio

All sessions live on Eir
Qualifying highlights 16.30 on Channel 4
Race highlights at 18.45.

Worth noting on Sky that Martin Brundle won't be in attendance.

Inquitus

Race Winner
Lewis Hamilton 11/10
Sebastian Vettel 5/4

On Pole

Lewis Hamilton 8/11
Sebastian Vettel 6/4

2 horse race all round with the bookies. Pretty much everyone else is 9/1 or 10/1 minimum.

AMKC

flazio wrote: »

All sessions live on Eir
Qualifying highlights 16.30 on Channel 4
Race highlights at 18.45.

Worth noting on Sky that Martin Brundle won't be in attendance.

I wonder will that effect Sky F1's viewership numbers much?

Harika

OSI wrote: »

I believe Martin is out for a period while he is genetically cloned by Sky so they can finally replace Crofty with a second Martin Brundle with the eventual aim that 100% of all commentary time is dedicated to the 2 Martin's reminiscing over the same stories of running back to the 3rd car not knowing where they are post crash, and breaking both their ankles in Dallas.

There were rumours that Sky was not happy with Crofty and was to be replaced but Sky then shut it down themselves by confirming his role.

flazio

Some hot wheels at Haas.
Motorsport.com: Haas F1 team loses tyres in overnight garage fire.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/haas-f1-team-loses-tyres-in-overnight-garage-fire/3184674/

Joeface

Pos Driver Team Race Time Laps
1 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1:34.488 19
2 Max Verstappen Red Bull +0.050 22
3 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes +0.330 23
4 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes +0.511 28
5 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull +1.036 11
6 Esteban Ocon Force India +1.175 24
7 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari +1.208 19
8 Kevin Magnussen Haas +1.708 21
9 Nico Hulkenberg Renault +1.786 18
10 Antonio Giovinazzi Sauber +2.224 22
11 Romain Grosjean Haas +2.328 23
12 Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso +2.456 25
13 Artem Markelov Renault -- 18
13 Lando Norris McLaren +2.534 25
14 Charles Leclerc Sauber +2.566 24
16 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren +2.699 27
18 Sergey Sirotkin Williams +2.737 25
19 Brendon Hartley Toro Rosso +3.456 28
20 Lance Stroll Williams +4.649 13

Norris quicker than Vandoorne :pac:

Joeface

And Giovinazzi is the quicker Sauber

BikeRacer

Deleted User wrote: »

Norris quicker than Vandoorne :pac:

It's the narrowest time difference between teammates on the entire board

Inviere

OSI wrote: »

Those Mercedes times were set on the Soft while the Ferrari and Red Bull was on the Hyper. That's pretty ominous looking.

I’ve been wrong so so many times based on free practice “results”. It’s all meaningless at the top. The final times of FP3 might be somewhat indicative, but on the whole, the top teams keep their cards very close to their chest until Saturday afternoon.

pjohnson

Well we know Verstappen, Ricciardo, Gasly, Hartley and Alonso will be 20-16 most likely thanks to Engine Penalties.

Joeface

Completely different order to this mornings time sheets

Pos Driver Car Time Gap Laps
1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m33.385s - 35
2 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1m33.584s 0.199s 33
3 Max Verstappen Red Bull/Renault 1m33.827s 0.442s 32
4 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull/Renault 1m33.844s 0.459s 37
5 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1m33.928s 0.543s 33
6 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1m34.388s 1.003s 31
7 Sergio Perez Force India/Mercedes 1m35.122s 1.737s 30
8 Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso/Honda 1m35.137s 1.752s 28
9 Esteban Ocon Force India/Mercedes 1m35.147s 1.762s 33
10 Marcus Ericsson Sauber/Ferrari 1m35.295s 1.910s 35
11 Kevin Magnussen Haas/Ferrari 1m35.331s 1.946s 33
12 Carlos Sainz Renault 1m35.341s 1.956s 37
13 Charles Leclerc Sauber/Ferrari 1m35.432s 2.047s 32
14 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 1m35.568s 2.183s 35
15 Romain Grosjean Haas/Ferrari 1m35.911s 2.526s 35
16 Brendon Hartley Toro Rosso/Honda 1m36.024s 2.639s 29
17 Fernando Alonso McLaren/Renault 1m36.074s 2.689s 34
18 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren/Renault 1m36.617s 3.232s 31
19 Sergey Sirotkin Williams/Mercedes 1m36.861s 3.476s 39
20 Lance Stroll Williams/Mercedes 1m37.001s 3.616s 35

Inquitus

Not looking good for continuing interest in the Championships, the Ferrari v Mercedes pace.

AMKC

Maybe Hamilton will decide to let either Bottas or Vettel win this race just so he does not have to see and shake evil Putin's hand again. In fact maybe he will decide 4th place is a good place to finish but probably highly unlikely.

pjohnson

AMKC wrote: »

Maybe Hamilton will decide to let either Bottas or Vettel win this race just so he does not have to see and shake evil Putin's hand again. In fact maybe he will decide 4th place is a good place to finish but probably highly unlikely.

Maybe Vlad will cause more fires and Sirotkin will get the win :pac:

pjohnson

Mercedes and the Merc engines look set to romp this


Top 6 all Merc engines

Ghost Train

I'm going to predict a Bottas win... Strong track for him. But might need Lewis to have a dnf for that to happen

Lewis on pole maybe

Cars running slowly on out laps caused a few issues in P3, dangerous at times, so might be some problems in Qualifying

2011

Ghost Train wrote: »

I'm going to predict a Bottas win... Strong track for him. But might need Lewis to have a dnf for that to happen

Will definitely need a dnf from Hamilton for this to happen due to team orders even if he is quicker (which I doubt).

skipper_G

I hate this track, even qualifying is boring. What's the point of them doing second laps in Q2 when there are 5 cars who didn't even set one lap time

Jordan 199

That Merc is a rocket.

Ghost Train

Bottas ahead of Hamilton so far, one more run to go. Ferrari a good bit behind

2011

Ghost Train wrote: »

Bottas ahead of Hamilton so far, one more run to go. Ferrari a good bit behind

Looks like a boring race tomorrow......:o:mad::(

walshb

Great qualifying from Bottas!

skipper_G

Hamilton gets a better start and in front before turn 1, nobody able to overtake, race over.

2011

skipper_G wrote: »

Hamilton gets a better start and in front before turn 1, nobody able to overtake, race over.

Most likely, yes

Bottas to finish 15-20s behind Hamilton.

Ghost Train

Mercedes don't always do team orders so could work for Bottas

BikeRacer

Very uncharacteristic mistake there from Lewis in sector 2, 3 tenths up on Bottas after sector 1 so he was on for a sub 1:31 only for that.

skipper_G

Ghost Train wrote: »

Mercedes don't always do team orders so could work for Bottas

I don't agree, Mercedes like to talk about how they don't do team orders a lot but they've done it more than anyone else this season. They're full of hot air, just like with all the poor Ocon garbage Toto's been spouting

pjohnson

Jesus that Q2 was a joke.

pjohnson

11 55
SAINZ
12 27
HULKENBERG
13 35
SIROTKIN
1:35.612
14 2
VANDOORNE
1:35.977
15 18
STROLL
1:36.437
16 14
ALONSO
1:35.504
17 10
GASLY
18 28
HARTLEY
1:35.037
19 3
RICCIARDO
20 33
VERSTAPPEN


Is the back of the grid with the penalties applied.

Inviere

They've done away with penalties that carry over yeah?

Charlie-Bravo

pjohnson wrote: »

Driver|Pos|Pos|Driver
SAINZ |11|12|HULKENBERG
SIROTKIN|13|14|VANDOORNE
STROLL|15|16|ALONSO
GASLY|17|18|HARTLEY
RICCIARDO|19|20|VERSTAPPEN


Is the back of the grid with the penalties applied.

I just did a little tidy up. Interesting and should at least give us something to watch as I'd expect the top 4 will be a bit of a bore.

Harika

Formula 2 race was good as the tyres made such a difference. But why did sky delay the broadcast to show a pre F1 show rerun instead of the live race.

Burkie1203

astrofluff wrote: »

I just did a little tidy up. Interesting and should at least give us something to watch as I'd expect the top 4 will be a bit of a bore.

Vettel getting a tow off Bottas and Kimi off Lewis

First corner collision on the cards

Charlie-Bravo

Harika wrote: »

Formula 2 race was good as the tyres made such a difference. But why did sky delay the broadcast to show a pre F1 show rerun instead of the live race.

Poor form, maybe they were hoping that Lewis was on pole. Instead we got a rollercoaster wth Johnny.

Yeah, F2 race was great. Shame Markelov didn't go longer on his stint, and a shame he had a mare of a pitstop.

Charlie-Bravo

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Vettel getting a tow off Bottas and Kimi off Lewis

First corner collision on the cards

Maybe the dirty side will hamper Hamilton, and Vettel does get a tow from Bottas.

AMKC

l done to Bottas on his great qualifying today. Ferrari just did seem to be there today. Hopefully they will be better in the race tomorrow and maybe Kimi or Vettel can get a win although I do not mind if Bottas wins either. Could a good or a boring race.

Gamb!t

Harika wrote: »

There were rumours that Sky was not happy with Crofty and was to be replaced but Sky then shut it down themselves by confirming his role.

What a shame they didnt get rid.

Inviere

Gamb!t wrote: »

What a shame they didnt get rid.

And Herbert while they're at it.

Gamb!t

Inviere wrote: »

And Herbert while they're at it.

He's not as bad and less annoying as Croft IMO.

skipper_G

Gamb!t wrote: »

He's not as bad and less annoying as Croft IMO.

Croft yesterday was ridiculous, he was screaming his head off with excitement at the end of Q2. While the 5 cars to be eliminated sat in the garage not even setting a lap time.

pjohnson

astrofluff wrote: »

I just did a little tidy up. Interesting and should at least give us something to watch as I'd expect the top 4 will be a bit of a bore.

One more change as Vandoorne is 15th on the grid now as he has changed his gearbox. Stroll moves up to 14th on the grid as a result.

T-Maxx

This is definitely the least excited I've been about a race this season.

pjohnson

Per this BBC graphic Hartley has also moved behind the Red Bulls. Verstappen's extra penalty over Ricciardo was for ignoring the yellow flag Sirotkin caused. I dont know where Hartley has got the extra penalties from.

Cool_CM

Such an excellent national anthem

Why have they turned it into a sh1t pop song....

Jordan 199

Cool_CM wrote: »

Such an excellent national anthem

Why have they turned it into a sh1t pop song....

You better hope Mr. Putin didn't read that

skipper_G

Lovely move from Leclerc on KMag. Not a bad start this, everyone looks racey

strawdog

Haven't seen anything in media but i presume bottas has already had his "wingman" orders if merc stay p1-2?

Could Verstappen win this yet?