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25-09-2018 11:17pm#1
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You don't want them discreet, you want them noticeable. A lot of home security is letting potential burglars know that you have a good home security system and cameras and motion lights and good locks.
Seeing the above, most burglars will skip your home and break into an easier, less risky target instead.
Having said that the Ring doorbell camera or Nest doorbell camera are pretty discrete if that is what you want, though they will only cover the front door.
I don't know of any IP camera with a dedicated hand held monitor. But what you can do, is just buy a really cheap tablet, something like an Amazon Fire Tablet and just install the cameras app on it and have it stream all the time.
Some cameras also work with the Amazon Echo Show and Google Home screens. You can say to them, "Hey Google, show me the front door camera" and it displays the cameras video on the screen. Though this stuff is pretty new and developing.
Lots of folks over on the Home Automation forum have experience of various IP cameras.
Thank you.
Yes, it does make sense to have the cameras noticeable and I hadn't thought of that, but it is also easy to interfere with a camera and be able to avoid it while still acting natural - that was my concern.
I saw the Ring doorbells on Amazon last night. I wouldn't class them as discreet at all - he camera is very obvious and easy to avoid.
These cameras have a monitor but no app - https://www.spycameracctv.com/spycamera/4-camera-1080p-hd-wireless-cctv-kit-mobile-access-touch-screen-dvr EDIT: Actually I'm wrong - this does have an app too.
A cheap tablet to use only as a monitor is very good idea though, thank you.
I'll try the Home Automation section. Didn't know about it - thanks for that too.
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LazySamaritan wrote: »Yes, it does make sense to have the cameras noticeable and I hadn't thought of that, but it is also easy to interfere with a camera and be able to avoid it while still acting natural - that was my concern.
Well many people place their cameras high up on the wall of the house, so that the only way to tamper with them would be with a ladder, which would be very noticeable. And these sort of cameras usually cover the entire front of a typical house so will easily catch anyone approaching them.LazySamaritan wrote: »I saw the Ring doorbells on Amazon last night. I wouldn't class them as discreet at all - he camera is very obvious and easy to avoid.
A lot more discreet then a typical dome or CCTV type camera. Those can usually be seen from the road, while depending on the position you might not notice a doorbell camera until you are right up to it.
Also many people don't even realise those are actually cameras!! The number of videos from the US of people stealing packages from peoples front doors right in front of these type of cameras can attest to that.
The idea of someone tampering with IP cameras is extremely unlikely. The way most work of these type of cameras work is that they stream video to a cloud storage service where it is stored and then send you a notification of movement detected. You'll have excellent footage of anyone trying to tamper with your camera. If you catch the notification fast enough you can even talk to the person over the two way mics built into most of these type of cameras
Realistically most burlgars don't try and tamper with cameras. They avoid them completely if they can.
Remember 50% of Irish homes have no security system. They'd rather target one of those homes, then risk targeting a home with an extensive security/camera system.
BTW the point of doorbell type cameras is that a very typical way for burglars to check if someone is home, is to go up to the front door, ring and see if someone answers. If someone answers, then they make up an excuse and move on, if no one answers and there is no obvious security/cameras, then break in. These doorbell type cameras allow you to answer the door, even when out. So they don't know if someone is home or not.
Also they allow you to answer the door without opening the door, which can help protect against forced entry type break ins.
Of course every house is different. A typical setup for a semi-d would be a camera high up on both on the front and back of the house, that would cover the front and back gardens and thus main approaches. A doorbell camera would then be a nice addition to that, but not definitely needed.
Of course no guarantees. Security is all about taking reasonable steps that make you less of a target or a more difficult target.0 -
Well many people place their cameras high up on the wall of the house, so that the only way to tamper with them would be with a ladder, which would be very noticeable. And these sort of cameras usually cover the entire front of a typical house so will easily catch anyone approaching them.
A lot more discreet then a typical dome or CCTV type camera. Those can usually be seen from the road, while depending on the position you might not notice a doorbell camera until you are right up to it.
Also many people don't even realise those are actually cameras!! The number of videos from the US of people stealing packages from peoples front doors right in front of these type of cameras can attest to that.
The idea of someone tampering with IP cameras is extremely unlikely. The way most work of these type of cameras work is that they stream video to a cloud storage service where it is stored and then send you a notification of movement detected. You'll have excellent footage of anyone trying to tamper with your camera. If you catch the notification fast enough you can even talk to the person over the two way mics built into most of these type of cameras
Realistically most burlgars don't try and tamper with cameras. They avoid them completely if they can.
Remember 50% of Irish homes have no security system. They'd rather target one of those homes, then risk targeting a home with an extensive security/camera system.
BTW the point of doorbell type cameras is that a very typical way for burglars to check if someone is home, is to go up to the front door, ring and see if someone answers. If someone answers, then they make up an excuse and move on, if no one answers and there is no obvious security/cameras, then break in. These doorbell type cameras allow you to answer the door, even when out. So they don't know if someone is home or not.
Also they allow you to answer the door without opening the door, which can help protect against forced entry type break ins.
Of course every house is different. A typical setup for a semi-d would be a camera high up on both on the front and back of the house, that would cover the front and back gardens and thus main approaches. A doorbell camera would then be a nice addition to that, but not definitely needed.
Of course no guarantees. Security is all about taking reasonable steps that make you less of a target or a more difficult target.
You are of course correct that cameras would be high I don't up, but when I mentioned interfering with them I was thinking of a camera in the porch which would be reachable. I don't think I specified a porch though so the error is mine.
I now find myself interested in all this - not for security but being able to have a look at who is at the door without having to get up and peek out. 9 times out of ten it someone I don't know or some who'd I rather not be there. :P0 -
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