Harrassed by neighbours

Dtp1979

Reputable Rog wrote: »

Don't talk nonsense. They're hardly going to send Segal around.

Ive no idea what you’re talking about

Gravelly

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

sorry for your troubles op.an unpleasant situation.best to ignore them like they don’t even exist.that type of scum thrive on reactions and by not reacting you will starve them of the attention they need.
By all means put up cameras and if anything happens you will get it as evidence but ignore them and get on with your life and let them see that they aren’t bothering you.

But they are bothering him/her. They are making their life a misery. Telling them to ignore that is not a lot of help.

I am not taking your neighbours side. They sound like awful scum and I sympathise. But surely you should have your garden secured. If it was the dogs wouldn't have gotten in in the first place. I wouldn't be keeping hens if they weren't properly secured or dogs , foxes etc can get to them. A good fence will keep your animals and children safe and help to keep those scumbags off your property.

deise08

Hey op... God sounds like a horrible situation...
I don't envy you.....
You could be a pest without them even knowing.
They've got dogs, hmmm I wonder do they have licences?
On a lighter note,
Could sign them up for loads of junk mail, brochures, booklets, you have their address
If you know their phone number, you could sign them up for call backs for different quotes, or stuff they wouldn't have a clue...

Doctors room ghost

Gravelly wrote: »

But they are bothering him/her. They are making their life a misery. Telling them to ignore that is not a lot of help.

Not a lot of help?fair enough.
Go all rambo so op.as the other posters have advised start fires,kill dog,involve the local paramilitary,damage cars,don’t leave a man standing. The local guards and judges love that kind of thing.best of luck with it.
As for the hens it’s your neighbors responsibility to keep his dog secure and on his own property but as the owner of the hens it’s your responsibility to keep them secure and safe from predators.

Gravelly

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Not a lot of help?fair enough.
Go all rambo so op.as the other posters have advised start fires,kill dog,involve the local paramilitary,damage cars,don’t leave a man standing. The local guards and judges love that kind of thing.best of luck with it.
As for the hens it’s your neighbors responsibility to keep his dog secure and on his own property but as the owner of the hens it’s your responsibility to keep them secure and safe from predators.

You’re not very good at the oul advice thing, are you?

steddyeddy

Sorry to hear that Crea. I'm guessing they come under the description of live and die in the same town and resent everyone else for it.

SCOOP 64

ID say op after a while the incidents will die down because they will get bored with it and move on to something or someone else, the only way they wont stop is how you react to it, the more they see how this is making your life hell the longer it will take,
i know how hard it will be to put a brave face on it, but its your the reaction that keeps this type people motivated.
but still take keep records and set up a camera.

Doctors room ghost

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

ID say op after a while the incidents will die down because they will get bored with it and move on to something or someone else, the only way they wont stop is how you react to it, the more they see how this is making your life hell the longer it will take,
i know how hard it will be to put a brave face on it, but its your the reaction that keeps this type people motivated.
but still take keep records and set up a camera.

I said the same thing scoop.according to old gravelly there though it wasn’t helpful and they need to call in the provos.i wasn’t good at the oul advice either according to master gravelly either.ah well.everydays a school day.

road_high

Aunt of mine in Dublin had similar years ago. Quiet little working class cul de sac...was ideal for a few years until scum from hell moved in. Ruined life for all the decent folk.
Even remember paint was deliberately spilled on their car but bless them they told us all it was spilled accidently by themselves at the time. Must have been a living nightmare at the time. Their solution? Move, they just had to. Took a small hit on the house and moved to an infinitely better place. Was around the mid 90s before things had gotten too crazy.
Only heard the truth after they'd moved. Would explore this if at all possible.

Jack Moore

Dtp1979 wrote: »

If the EPA get word that you’ve had a kerosene leak like that, you’ll have a lot more to worry about than neighbours.
Yes hide cameras the best option

The brother in law got an oil tank leak and they dug up his garden
So I got rid of my oil and replaced with solid fuel
It’s serious what they expect

SCOOP 64

The op to sell and move then they need to sell to someone who doesn't know the area and don't do their homework, which is unlikely ,the reputation of the ops neighbours is not going to help.

L.Jenkins

road_high wrote: »

....Only heard the truth after they'd moved. Would explore this if at all possible.

I would hate to spend years saving for deposits, getting a mortgage and setting up a home, only to be ran out of it by some antisocial scumbags with nothing better to be doing with themselves.

There are ways to make life difficult for them legally, for example, using cameras to monitor and capture scumbags in the act. Blur out a few faces and post the behaviour to the Gardai.

Sheep breeder

Feel very sorry for you, sister in law had a similar with a dub neighbour with his dogs and then started the abuse to her what he would do and wouldn’t do. We suggested to start waving to him on the road and not entertain him when he stopped to give verbals and not inter act and this drove him mad as he no longer had power over her.
Now step two is a few bob to lads who are well got and a quick call around for a little chat also works very well, because a bully is very afraid of bigger bully.

Gorgeousgeorge

Send a caller for a chat. End of the day its just a bully. They thrive on fear but at the back of it they are cowards.

Also strength in numbers. Surely to jaysus you have brothers nephews etc

bigpink

Where did they come from?One thing awkward or nosey neighbors but scum

thebull85

Get the Ra after them.

Sam Quentin

Confront the father at his workplace, just for a wee private chat to begin with...
Tell him next time you'll arrive with Gardaí.
Totally blank/ghost his kids, I feel he will stop all this.
Good Luck you poor woman.

Gravelly

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

I said the same thing scoop.according to old gravelly there though it wasn’t helpful and they need to call in the provos.i wasn’t good at the oul advice either according to master gravelly either.ah well.everydays a school day.

Did I hurt diddums feelings? Awwwww have a hug hun, I’m sure your advice to do nothing and take it like a man is the bestest advice in the whole school. Good boy.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

argolis wrote: »

If you're putting up cameras, make sure you're not on shaky legal ground if it comes to it - you cannot be filming public places. So while you're fine to film around your own property, if any of it shows their land, it might be inadmissable. That also applies to your driveway, make sure it's angled not to record the public road and only records on your own land.
I think you might even legally have to have a warning that there's CCTV on the property, maybe someone else can say for sure. It may not come to that, in that if they or the Guards are shown the footage, that might be the end of it but cover yourself as much as possible.

Well your advice is absolutely incorrect. Lots of ifs and maybes.

Mountainsandh

Nash Large Boot wrote: »

Well your advice is absolutely incorrect. Lots of ifs and maybes.

Yeah I found that advice strange too, our local guards actually ask that we share the cctv pointed at the road ASAP when something happens in the community and we think we may have footage of a vehicle/person passing by for example. (say they appreciate as it's how they can triangulate movements)

Edward M

Nash Large Boot wrote: »

Well your advice is absolutely incorrect. Lots of ifs and maybes.

Is it?
https://m.independent.ie/business/farming/legal-advice/why-your-cctv-system-could-be-breaking-the-law-36543060.html

Doctors room ghost

Gravelly wrote: »

Did I hurt diddums feelings? Awwwww have a hug hun, I’m sure your advice to do nothing and take it like a man is the bestest advice in the whole school. Good boy.

Have a great weekend buddy.

myshirt

Edward M wrote: »

Is it?
https://m.independent.ie/business/farming/legal-advice/why-your-cctv-system-could-be-breaking-the-law-36543060.html

Thank you.

I read through each page fuming no one had called this out.

Anyway, op, can I ask have you had an issue with bullying in your youth, people bossing you around, dominating you, making a fool out of you, or is this your first time experiencing this type of behaviour? I don't want to victim blame because what is happening you is horrible, but it sounds like you have a difficulty standing up for yourself or you've met a right raving lunatic. Do any other neighbours get the same level of hassle from these people? Or is it just you?

OldMrBrennan83

myshirt wrote: »

Thank you.

I read through each page fuming no one had called this out.

Anyway, op, can I ask have you had an issue with bullying in your youth, people bossing you around, dominating you, making a fool out of you, or is this your first time experiencing this type of behaviour?

There's always one arsehole ready to push this angle trying to disguise it in being a wannabe shrink. You read what the scumbags did.

uck51js9zml2yt

Get into the dog warden. Chances are they've not got a licence for the dog!

Dtp1979

Jack Moore wrote: »

The brother in law got an oil tank leak and they dug up his garden
So I got rid of my oil and replaced with solid fuel
It’s serious what they expect

It’s unreal. It’s no laughing matter. It would cost a fortune to rectify.

Bobtheman

I would be inclined to make peace with them. They sound nuts and when dealing with insane people its best to be cautious.

Just apologise even though you dont owe them one. Fake sincerity.
The alternative is this goes on and on forever. Goes to court etc.

Graces7

108199643]I must see if I know people who know people![/QUOTE]

Yep that works! I was once in a rental that was in the middle of a feud. I helped my landlord fight a court battle which enraged the other side...

They wanted me OUT so took to various tactics. At one time she used to ride on their tractor up and down outside the house in her nurse's uniform, ranting, taking photos and making filthy gestures

I reported this to the court office... the Judge I had met sorted it.

NB HAVE YOU CONTACTED HIGHER UP THE GARDAI YET? Trust me, it will work wonders.

JohnnyFlash

You seem to be in a perpetual state of conflict, Grace. Falling out with neighbours, landlords, postmen, nurses, ESB workers, shop keepers, and members of the clergy.

Strike me as a very difficult and troublesome member of the human race.

endacl

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

You seem to be in a perpetual state of conflict, Grace. Falling out with neighbours, landlords, postmen, nurses, ESB workers, shop keepers, and members of the clergy.

Strike me as a very difficult and troublesome member of the human race.

Bet she won’t respond to that.

BBFAN

Gage Silly Chef wrote: »

Get into the dog warden. Chances are they've not got a licence for the dog!

Don't know why people keep recommending this. It's a small fine at most, won't bother scumbags.

kyote00

friend of mine had older 900l Kero tank split (as its base was uneven)

over the coarse of three months, the kerosene seeped under the house - causing fumes inside the house ...
All interior floors had to be removed to a depth of 6 ft - they were out of the house for about 6 months.

moral of the story is to make sure you examine the plastic tanks, make sure they are level

Jack Moore wrote: »

The brother in law got an oil tank leak and they dug up his garden
So I got rid of my oil and replaced with solid fuel
It’s serious what they expect

Gravelly

kyote00 wrote: »

friend of mine had older 900l Kero tank split (as its base was uneven)

over the coarse of three months, the kerosene seeped under the house - causing fumes inside the house ...
All interior floors had to be removed to a depth of 6 ft - they were out of the house for about 6 months.

moral of the story is to make sure you examine the plastic tanks, make sure they are level

Or get a simple plastic bund, (or make a simple one out of concrete lined in plastic sheeting) under your tank so that, in the event it does leak, the oil is contained.

Loves_lorries

Bobtheman wrote: »

I would be inclined to make peace with them. They sound nuts and when dealing with insane people its best to be cautious.

Just apologise even though you dont owe them one. Fake sincerity.
The alternative is this goes on and on forever. Goes to court etc.

Yes, showing weakness is bound to work.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

myshirt wrote: »

Thank you.

I read through each page fuming no one had called this out.

Fuming? About what? Your lack of understanding regarding the law?

Edward M wrote: »

Is it?
https://m.independent.ie/business/farming/legal-advice/why-your-cctv-system-could-be-breaking-the-law-36543060.html

I wasn't aware that the newspaper rag that is the independent, wrote the laws. In the title it even says "could", they use this word because they haven't a clue. They try to take a data protection spin on it, which is bollox. Clutching at straws. "Journalism"... what a joke. The justification of CCTV in the OP's case is warranted. CCTV is completely legal and you don't need to put up signs or anything else.

The processing of personal data kept by an individual and concerned solely with the management of his/her personal, family or household affairs or kept by an individual for recreational purposes is exempt from the provisions of the Acts.

You can photograph and record anybody and anything once you are in a public place. That includes children, police, other private property etc. You have a reasonable expectation to privacy, so if the focus of your recording is somebodies bedroom on the 2nd floor, that's going to get you into a bit of trouble.

Loves_lorries

BBFAN wrote: »

Don't know why people keep recommending this. It's a small fine at most, won't bother scumbags.

Dog wardens are in this country probably the laziest public sector workers out there.

They are toothless.

how was the neighbours's dog "injured" and why were your kids putting a bandage on it.....????

Azizur Rahman

Re getting the Gardaí or as some as suggested senior Gardaí, they can do nothing unless you have evidence. From reading through the posts you haven't actually witnessed any of the incidents or actual proof to say it's the neighbors from hell.

For Gardaí to be able to do something they need evidence - CCTV, eyewitness, fingerprints etc.

B.A._Baracus

Best advice so far is getting cameras in but, doing your best, to not let them see them being installed.

You want the scum to walk on to your property clearly showing their face while they do something. As opposed to covering themselves up at 3am in the morning. You'd still know it's them. But ya know yourself... 'could be anyone under the hood' etc.

Loves_lorries

Azizur Rahman wrote: »

Re getting the Gardaí or as some as suggested senior Gardaí, they can do nothing unless you have evidence. From reading through the posts you haven't actually witnessed any of the incidents or actual proof to say it's the neighbors from hell.

For Gardaí to be able to do something they need evidence - CCTV, eyewitness, fingerprints etc.

Well guards would do something if the op had the right connections in AGS but most people don't.

I've seen guards arrest people for being in the same shop as another person, other person made allegation that something happened outside shop, they also had friends high up in the force.

Azizur Rahman

Loves_lorries wrote: »

Well guards would do something if the op had the right connections in AGS but most people don't.

I've seen guards arrest people for being in the same shop as another person, other person made allegation that something happened outside shop, they also had friends high up in the force.

If the allegation is direct e.g "X did Y to me" then that's direct evidence that can be used in court.

But in this instance, the OP believes the neighbors did somethings but without any direct evidence to support this belief.

kylith

I'd be inclined to go the 'helpful and naive' route. Warn your neighbours that 'someone' has put tacks on your driveway and you've had to get the gardai round and are considering CCTV, and that 'something' has been after your chickens so you've put down traps/poison and are getting a gun.

votecounts

Nothing really to add that has not been said before. Sad state of affairs and you have my sympathies.

Malayalam

I had one incident more than 20 years ago when I moved into an old rented rural cottage not knowing that it was in the middle of a dreadful land dispute. Woke up to thumps on the door and a very angry - scarily so - drunken man threatening to burn the house down some night while we slept. He repeated this again and again, roaring like someone possessed. Found out about the guy who was now my next door neighbour and everyone told me he was a psycho with Republican connections who had done awful things to a person who had crossed him before. I went to the police. Told them the story. I did have a distant string I could pull in terms of connection - not major, but sufficient. The local guards promised me they would be on his back day and night, to stop him in the car every time they saw him to check his documents, to breathalyse him on his way home from the pub, to check in on his farm often for irregularities etc. - and fair play to them, they did. They let him know he was in trouble and being watched. They can do this. He skulked around like a wounded dog, glowering at me, looking at me sideways, for months. He was frightened off that's for sure, but the only real peace I could get in the end was to move far away from him. I know you own your house, and say that is not possible - so if you are willing to tolerate a skulking, glowering neighbour try and impress upon your local police persons that you want serious action taken, and it might help. If you have any connections in the guards, no matter how distant, impress upon them too that you need serious help.
Again good luck. It's an awful situation.

bigpink

Go the a higher up guard and make sure they investigate it

.......

I think people suggesting you use a connection in the Guards are having fond memories of a different time before every access to PULSE was logged.

Having a "connection" in the Guards is not going to help you these days, particularly since the last scandal and with the new commissioner in place.

Malayalam

....... wrote: »

I think people suggesting you use a connection in the Guards are having fond memories of a different time before every access to PULSE was logged.

Having a "connection" in the Guards is not going to help you these days, particularly since the last scandal and with the new commissioner in place.

That's possibly true. It was a long time ago. But they are thankfully still human beings who talk to each other at get togethers and golf outings etc. I'd give it a shot if I was going through what the OP is going through.

myshirt

Patww79 wrote: »

There's always one arsehole ready to push this angle trying to disguise it in being a wannabe shrink. You read what the scumbags did.

What?

I'm no shrink and that's not my angle. I'm no scumbag and this didn't happen me. I commented as I've personal experience. I lived next to a man who had murdered a vulnerable young person. Gutted them like a fish, pulled their eyes out. Fancied himself as a hardman but he was a bully. He would walk into a neighbours house and intimidate the man, making sexual remarks about his wife and his daughter in front of him, take money off him, slap him, and yerman would just stand there.

Why did he hassle this man and not hassle my family?

Two months it went on for until I heard about the extent of it. When he moved in he had parked his car blocking my drive and didn't move it for my wife. When I got home I had him move his car. He smirked, we had a mature conversation about why he was smirking, and that was his last smirk. Zero hassle from him after, I didn't think much of it. I grew up in Limerick, it wasn't my first rodeo. He was yes sir, no sir, two bags full sir behind it all. A handbag is what he was. A week after he was drinking cans outside on his wall with his buddies and I had to take his cans off him. Other than that no problems, and I didn't know what he was at.

I had to have a word with him after my wife asked me, as yerman was in a bad state, he was a right bag of nerves. Spoke with this man and he had been bullied since school, he'd been bullied at work, even his wife was bullying him. So often it comes back to zero inability to take care of yourself and a much wider issue that the op has to sort out. Most people on here on boards have been insulated in wool and think the guards are their personal security. Haven't a clue what it's like in the real world. There is no way in hell I'd put up with what the op is putting up with.

And before anyone asks, gards didn't give a sh't about what this man was doing; lack of services, resources and government interest.

Graces7

Azizur Rahman wrote: »

Re getting the Gardaí or as some as suggested senior Gardaí, they can do nothing unless you have evidence. From reading through the posts you haven't actually witnessed any of the incidents or actual proof to say it's the neighbors from hell.

For Gardaí to be able to do something they need evidence - CCTV, eyewitness, fingerprints etc.

Not true. They can sound a warning and in many cases that will be enough. Senior gardai I mean I mean