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Pregnant Sheep Skinned Alive, hung on barbed wired

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    Absolutely agree, the kind of person that can do that to an animal is an imminent threat to society and (while people may have different opinions on the punishment) absolutely must be restricted from living unchecked in society. This crime is chilling and the fact the maniac is still out there is terrifying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Some real sickos out there, but even if this character is caught with the animal welfare laws in this country they probably won't ever see the inside of a jail cell :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭mimimcmc


    This reminds me of Graham Dwyer, didn't he do something similar?
    Psychopaths...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Christ, this maniac is a threat to people too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Was skinned after the throat was cut not skinned alive.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Kuva


    Ah he pissed someone off and that's the first payback.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Kuva wrote: »
    Ah he pissed someone off and that's the first payback.

    Probably sectarian to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,272 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    MIght as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,023 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Barbaric. Needs to be locked up for life. He is a danger to society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Summer wind


    This is an example of true evil. Absolutely disgusting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,272 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Barbaric. Needs to be locked up for life. He is a danger to society.




    What's his name?


    Hal? Or Al?




    At the end of the day, those lamb chops you love don't end up on the plate by magic. Of course it's far far better to be as pain-free and quick as possible. But the meat on your plate comes from the same place. I don't mean Antrim. I mean animals.


    Anyway, if you are upset, just put it down to Arlene Foster on the GFA and Brexit and mark it down as the strike one from dissidents. Or just don't try to understand it and just write it off as Nordies being Nordies. Feckin' weirdos


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Kevin Finnerty


    Why are there so many links to that paper on Boards.ie?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    This has to part of a larger story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Or just don't try to understand it and just write it off as Nordies being Nordies. Feckin' weirdos

    I think some things it's better not to try and understand, being able to actually understand acts like these from all but a clinical point of view wouldn't be a good thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Your Face wrote: »
    This has to part of a larger story.

    You'd nearly hope so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,741 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Disgusting excuse for a human being.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    Is it that different to what is done every day in slaughter houses? Throat cut, skinned and hung up?

    We brand whoever did this sick but and find it disgusting but yet the stuff that happens every day behind closed doors is fine.

    Cognitive dissonance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,839 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    This isn't much different than systemic practices used to get animal products to consumers. If you're outraged by this, you should be outraged by pretty much all animal agricultural practices. There's no humane way to kill someone who doesn't want to die. Similar behaviour happens all the time, legally, in animal industries.

    All the leading world dietetic associations agree that a diet void of animal products is not only sufficient for all stages of life including infancy and pregnancy, but can help avoid some of the common killer diseases that animal proteins and fats play such a huge part in.

    If you agree with the basic moral principle that causing harm, where harm isn't necessary, is wrong, and can trust the leading dietetic associations, then consider that any such use of animals can't be considered a need, and if your want (taste, texture, culture, tradition) takes away the need (survival, a life void of interference) of another, then you've already agreed that the use of another life for your want is wrong.

    This is a great reality check as to what happens on free range, organic, high welfare, red tractor approved and RSPCA approved farms:

    https://www.landofhopeandglory.org/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Xcellor wrote: »
    Is it that different to what is done every day in slaughter houses? Throat cut, skinned and hung up?

    We brand whoever did this sick but and find it disgusting but yet the stuff that happens every day behind closed doors is fine.

    Cognitive dissonance.

    It's different.

    They re stunned before have their throats cut.
    It's done by a professional in an efficient manner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,839 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Your Face wrote: »
    It's different.

    They re stunned before have their throats cut.
    It's done by a professional in an efficient manner.

    What about jacking off a bull and fisting a cow to make the cow pregnant, to then steel their baby from them (for veal or for them to meet the same destiny as the mother) to then further molest their teats to take their milk, which was meant for their baby? All perfectly legal. Also if you think stunning and slitting the throat of a panicking cow is an easy and efficient process, you should watch some footage of it.

    Even just look at the atrocities committed in the wool industries, again, not dissimilar to the article above:



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  • Registered Users Posts: 573 ✭✭✭Butcher Boy


    Your Face wrote: »
    It's different.

    They re stunned before have their throats cut.
    It's done by a professional in an efficient manner.

    Spot on thats what we do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    cormie wrote: »
    What about jacking off a bull

    I don't know much about bulls but speaking for myself I've always found that to be quite a pleasant experience...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Your Face wrote: »
    It's different.

    They re stunned before have their throats cut.
    It's done by a professional in an efficient manner.

    after being crammed, distressed, into trucks, driven terrified into blood littered premises, manhandled brutally. Very humane.


  • Registered Users Posts: 573 ✭✭✭Butcher Boy


    Graces7 wrote: »
    after being crammed, distressed, into trucks, driven terrified into blood littered premises, manhandled brutally. Very humane.
    Here we go again the same **** spun again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    cormie wrote: »
    What about jacking off a bull and fisting a cow to make the cow pregnant, to then steel their baby from them (for veal or for them to meet the same destiny as the mother) to then further molest their teats to take their milk, which was meant for their baby? All perfectly legal. Also if you think stunning and slitting the throat of a panicking cow is an easy and efficient process, you should watch some footage of it.

    Even just look at the atrocities committed in the wool industries, again, not dissimilar to the article above:

    The bull doesn't care, the cow doesn't know what's going on, and would it be better for us to kill all of them in one fell swoop and burn the useless corpses?

    It takes 7 times more water to make nut 'milks' than cow milk. The almond milk industry in the US is worsening the Californian dought massively, with huge impact on the local wildlife. But you go ahead and drink your nut juice with its huge water and carbon footprint while deserts dry further and ancient aquifers vanish, rather than utilise a readily available resource made locally.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    Threads rarely come as uplifting as this one :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭italodisco


    Aaaaaaand the pale faced vegans have landed


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    kylith wrote: »
    The bull doesn't care, the cow doesn't know what's going on, and would it be better for us to kill all of them in one fell swoop and burn the useless corpses?

    It takes 7 times more water to make nut 'milks' than cow milk. The almond milk industry in the US is worsening the Californian dought massively, with huge impact on the local wildlife. But you go ahead and drink your nut juice with its huge water and carbon footprint while deserts dry further and ancient aquifers vanish, rather than utilise a readily available resource made locally.

    Who said anything about nut milk? What is the obsession with milk that everyone has, if you don’t drinking cows milk you don’t have to replace it with a nutty alternative (personally I would go with Oat milk as it doesn’t taste odd and is sustainable) Adults dont actually need milk at all it’s meant for young.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    Xcellor wrote: »
    Is it that different to what is done every day in slaughter houses? Throat cut, skinned and hung up?

    We brand whoever did this sick but and find it disgusting but yet the stuff that happens every day behind closed doors is fine.

    Cognitive dissonance.

    Correct.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,839 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    kylith wrote: »
    The bull doesn't care, the cow doesn't know what's going on, and would it be better for us to kill all of them in one fell swoop and burn the useless corpses?

    It takes 7 times more water to make nut 'milks' than cow milk. The almond milk industry in the US is worsening the Californian dought massively, with huge impact on the local wildlife. But you go ahead and drink your nut juice with its huge water and carbon footprint while deserts dry further and ancient aquifers vanish, rather than utilise a readily available resource made locally.

    Why do they have to be restrained when these things are happening to them so? Why does the cow cry when the baby is taken, why do they show signs of anxiety and stress when they see those in line before them meet their fate?

    So you're having to take the absolute extreme case, the Californian almond, to argue for the use of cows milk? Milk alternatives can be made from countless different crops, locally grown ones like oats too, which use far far less water. Plus, have you ever looked up what uses even more water in California than the almond? Alfalfa, which is fed to livestock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    italodisco wrote: »
    Aaaaaaand the pale faced vegans have landed

    And I suppose they are not allowed to have opinions here :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,849 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I was aware of similar happening I my area a few years ago.
    Larger sheep farmers mightn't notice a few sheep missing at times.
    They eventually found guys on their land in the early hours of the morning.
    Gardai said it happened a lot with take away owners going out for meat.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    same sex marriage, legalised abortion and now sacrifice of animals

    Satan has arisen in Ireland I tells ya. It would never have happened if Archbishop McQuaid were still alive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    So was this act carried out by a deluded vegan in an effort to highlight meat-eaters' alleged hypocrisy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Ficheall wrote: »
    So was this act carried out by a deluded vegan in an effort to highlight meat-eaters' alleged hypocrisy?

    either that or a desperate kebab shop owner apparently


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Ficheall wrote: »
    So was this act carried out by a deluded vegan in an effort to highlight meat-eaters' alleged hypocrisy?

    Might have been a meat eater that didn't have enough money for the shop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,462 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I was aware of similar happening I my area a few years ago.
    Larger sheep farmers mightn't notice a few sheep missing at times.
    They eventually found guys on their land in the early hours of the morning.
    Gardai said it happened a lot with take away owners going out for meat.


    Gardi said that did they?

    Was it the Chinese?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    People can argue about meat versus no meat all the want but to kill any species while pregnant to me is just horrific act. Those people carried out that are savages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123


    Sounds like someone was looking for a few free dinners,

    Throat cut to bleed it out, then legs cut off at the knees to save on waste at home. Sounds like they were disturbed by something before they finished the job tho.

    I doubt it was skinned alive, anything for a headline!! Dead things are easier to skin..

    Sounds familiar around here with certain foreign nationals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,849 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    kneemos wrote: »
    Gardi said that did they?

    Was it the Chinese?

    No it wasn't the Chinese.
    Chinese doesn't well sell lamb.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    Yeah, you can (usually) judge a persons character by the way they treat animals. Probably some kid who has, to but it mildly, severe mental issues. Will most likely never be caught and could well go on to cause some serious harm to someone in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭lalababa


    Sounds like a butchering interrupted to be honest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Bigbagofcans


    Poor sheep :(
    It doesn't sound too different to the barbarism of Halal. Becoming more commonplace around the world cos of bloody religion :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,462 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Poor sheep :(
    It doesn't sound too different to the barbarism of Halal. Becoming more commonplace around the world cos of bloody religion :mad:


    Most Halal meat is stunned I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    garv123 wrote: »
    Sounds like someone was looking for a few free dinners,

    Throat cut to bleed it out, then legs cut off at the knees to save on waste at home. Sounds like they were disturbed by something before they finished the job tho.

    I doubt it was skinned alive, anything for a headline!! Dead things are easier to skin..

    Sounds familiar around here with certain foreign nationals.

    The headline didn’t say it was skinned alive, the op did.

    Edit - actually it did. I do apologise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    Keano wrote: »
    People can argue about meat versus no meat all the want but to kill any species while pregnant to me is just horrific act. Those people carried out that are savages.

    I saw this thread on the front page last week.

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057914201/4/#post108184761

    Farmers asking is it ok to slaughter a pregnant cow. Have a look for yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Tilikum17 wrote: »
    I saw this thread on the front page last week.

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057914201/4/#post108184761

    Farmers asking is it ok to slaughter a pregnant cow. Have a look for yourself.

    And you'll see the majority are against it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,849 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    The farmer I know who caught these lads in the act basically said they had very big machete type knives!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    The farmer I know who caught these lads in the act basically said they had very big machete type knives!

    It's relatively common, tbh. Especially where the sheep are on a different block of land away from the farmhouse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    And you'll see the majority are against it.

    Go back and read through it again.


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